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I just got my phone back from repair and it has now got a new motherboard and I guess eMMC chip. I would downgrade and root my phone but there is one thing holding me back. I have been reading up on many htc phone owners who have had their emmc chip fried by them pulling out their battery because their phone has frozen or because their battery has fallen out of their phone.
I think it's a common problem for the incredible s from looking at what the htc person said http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20163494&postcount=23
I know it can be fixed by htc but not If you are S-off and as far as I can tell if you are s-off and your emmc chip dies their is no way for you to s-on your phone again.
I was s-off before the repair and I pulled out the battery about 10 times and I never had a problem. Some people seem to think that only some chips are affected as they are a bad batch. If so how can you test your chip ( by pulling the battery) and have anyone already had this problem?
Maybe I'm worrying too much but has anyone thought about it?
incrediblealex said:
I just got my phone back from repair and it has now got a new motherboard and I guess eMMC chip. I would downgrade and root my phone but there is one thing holding me back. I have been reading up on many htc phone owners who have had their emmc chip fried by them pulling out their battery because their phone has frozen or because their battery has fallen out of their phone.
I think it's a common problem for the incredible s from looking at what the htc person said http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20163494&postcount=23
I know it can be fixed by htc but not If you are S-off and as far as I can tell if you are s-off and your emmc chip dies their is no way for you to s-on your phone again.
I was s-off before the repair and I pulled out the battery about 10 times and I never had a problem. Some people seem to think that only some chips are affected as they are a bad batch. If so how can you test your chip ( by pulling the battery) and have anyone already had this problem?
Maybe I'm worrying too much but has anyone thought about it?
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It's not really necessary to pull the battery, the button combination for resetting your phone is just press and hold all three buttons. You can still enter hboot from this reset method. Hope this puts your mind at ease somewhat.
Nonverbose said:
It's not really necessary to pull the battery, the button combination for resetting your phone is just press and hold all three buttons. You can still enter hboot from this reset method. Hope this puts your mind at ease somewhat.
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Yeah thanks I didn't know about that all button pressing method which I will use in the future. I think maybe the desire s is more vulnerable to it than the incredible s going by the number of threads on their forum.
I must have been lucky for mine to be ok as I pulled out the battery loads when s-off
It looks like I have the bad emmc chip i found out by downloading terminal emulator from the market and typing cat /sys/class/block/mmcblk0/device/name
It comes back with m4g2de which I found out is a Samsung one that bricks after some time.
I'm not sure if I had that before. Could some other people check thiers to see if they have the same one?
I got the sem04g, SanDisk emmc chip
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I got the sem04g, SanDisk emmc chip
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Same here bro
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So the sen04g is the good chip and the m4g2de is the bad chip
I know the desire s is really badly effected by the emmc chip going dead but after doing some research the sensation also has this bad chip and according to some people is not affected by it so maybe the incredible s is also not affected.
I've got sandisk too
Yes bad EMMC chip need change
check topic
http://www.sevgigsm.net/forum/showthread.php/16048-Desire-HD-nand-flash-chip-değişimi
Does it really matter? If your under warranty and you fry it they replace the mother board automatically so they will never know your s-off
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itsbeertimenow said:
Does it really matter? If your under warranty and you fry it they replace the mother board automatically so they will never know your s-off
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Are you sure I thought they checked your bootloader status
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Are you sure I thought they checked your bootloader status
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Mine was in fully working condition when I sent it in for the power button fix
Came back with new motherboard and fixed
I guess it depends on the mood of the service guy
Nonverbose said:
It's not really necessary to pull the battery, the button combination for resetting your phone is just press and hold all three buttons. You can still enter hboot from this reset method. Hope this puts your mind at ease somewhat.
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What three buttons? Power + Vol + ?
Blaaargh said:
What three buttons? Power + Vol + ?
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Volume up+volume down= two buttons
markj338 said:
Volume up+volume down= two buttons
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Is it even possible to press both vol up and down at the same time? I just tried and I dont think it happened
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Is it even possible to press both vol up and down at the same time? I just tried and I dont think it happened
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Yeah I think they are independent of each other
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Yes, if you disassemble the volume button you will see there are separate buttons for vol up and vol down.
Cool, thanks for info guys. I did not know that combo
Hey,
Some very bad news: i am with my friend right now, but he dropped his sgm in a car accident. . (Friend is ok) The phone hit the ground very hard, now the screen is shatterd out and the front keys are out.
Now the problem is.. that he is in warranty and would like to bring it to samsung care, but his phone is running minisIII (costum rom), and he cant flash it back.
The phone still boots, if you push the sound buttons you hear sound, but the front keys are slammed out, so he cant start in download mode.
Is there any way he can start it in download mode to flash stock rom back?
Very thanks if you wanna help.
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Why? your friend must only repair the body of galaxy mini and not the software then i think that is not a problem also if your friend keep the custom rom.
Isnt it that they wont repair it if its running costum?
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don't you have to press vol down and power to get into dl mode?
yackovsky said:
don't you have to press vol down and power to get into dl mode?
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Yes, power button+home button+volume down button.
domini99 said:
Isnt it that they wont repair it if its running costum?
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I don't know sincerely, i'm not a samsung service boy but i think that for body problems is not needed go back to stock rom, i think that go back to stock rom is needed only for software or hardware issues about the rom and then if you have a custom rom you lose the warranty because is your fault if the device is damaged, but for body problems is not fault of rom then you do not should lose your warranty, however you should speak with a samsung service boy for be sure, and then about the download mode you can also enter in download mode from the terminal emulator.
EVIL THOR said:
Yes, power button+home button+volume down button.
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guys the OP say that the ****ing front keys
are out (which mean the home button) so actually he can"t boot in dl mod, but i think that the service will repair it since it's not a software problem
domini99 said:
Hey,
Some very bad news: i am with my friend right now, but he dropped his sgm in a car accident. . (Friend is ok) The phone hit the ground very hard, now the screen is shatterd out and the front keys are out.
Now the problem is.. that he is in warranty and would like to bring it to samsung care, but his phone is running minisIII (costum rom), and he cant flash it back.
The phone still boots, if you push the sound buttons you hear sound, but the front keys are slammed out, so he cant start in download mode.
Is there any way he can start it in download mode to flash stock rom back?
Very thanks if you wanna help.
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Switch off your phone and usb jig to go into download mode... Usb jig doesn't need home or back..
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Samsung fix it even if it is customer's fault? LOL
Trublood_ said:
Samsung fix it even if it is customer's fault? LOL
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No, if is your fault the samsung don't fix nothing and you lose your warranty.
EVIL THOR said:
No, if is your fault the samsung don't fix nothing and you lose your warranty.
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Then samsung wont fix his friends phone (unless he pays for it [buy new device if youre not in Brazil])
Trublood_ said:
Then samsung wont fix his friends phone (unless he pays for it [buy new device if youre not in Brazil])
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...depends of damage, if is little maybe they repair for free, for example to a my friend it was broken the glass of display but they have repaired for free in warranty, then i think that if the damage is little (few money) they repair for free.
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however you have understood bad that one that i mean, i mean that if you install a custom rom and then you do some damage you lose your warranty because is your fault and not fault of samsung if you have damaged the device then after you must pay for repair, in warranty the samsung repair only manufacturing issue, and in theory for all the rest you should pay, but the samsung is a big manufacturing and also serious then repair almost all in warranty for business for get more samsung users.
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...depends of damage, if is little maybe they repair for free, for example also to a my friend it was broken the glass of display but they have repaired for free in warranty, then i think that if the damage is little and (few money) they repair for free.
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But it doesnt sound like little...
But anyway, good luck for him, thanks god it wasnt mine LOL
Accepting Galaxy SIII donations (I'm brazilian) .
Okay. We will try to send it up.
But if they only repair small. Eeer..
The screen is not broken, its out of the phone. You can see the internals. The body is completely destroyd, but the hardware is still working, if you call or sms the phone it makes sound, it seems to be connected to wifi, coz we can find it in our network..
Tommorow we go to the samsung center.
I will tell what they sayd.
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lackhoo said:
guys the OP say that the ****ing front keys
are out (which mean the home button) so actually he can"t boot in dl mod, but i think that the service will repair it since it's not a software problem
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the phuck is your problem, french toast? can't i forget how to go into download mode?
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domini99 said:
Okay. We will try to send it up.
But if they only repair small. Eeer..
The screen is not broken, its out of the phone. You can see the internals. The body is completely destroyd, but the hardware is still working, if you call or sms the phone it makes sound, it seems to be connected to wifi, coz we can find it in our network..
Tommorow we go to the samsung center.
I will tell what they sayd.
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read the papers. physical damage is not covered by guarantee.
yackovsky said:
the phuck is your problem, french toast? can't i forget how to go into download mode?
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read the papers. physical damage is not covered by guarantee.
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Yes but if the damage is little they repair for free, but the damage of domini99 is not little then i think that he must pay for repair.
And i think it's all written in guarantee. Physical damage is NOT covered, at least in europe.
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And i think it's all written in guarantee. Physical damage is NOT covered, at least in europe.
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Hahaha...maybe you don't understand that the samsung has business interest, i've already said that to a my friend they have repaired the broken glass for free in warranty and the broken glass is a physical damage pikachu then that one that is written on the warranty depends always from they and is not law.
Somehow I don't believe in this, what would be their interest in repairing/replacing broken screen for free? Sorry mate, but it doesn't make any sense to me...
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Somehow I don't believe in this, what would be their interest in repairing/replacing broken screen for free? Sorry mate, but it doesn't make any sense to me...
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I don't know for sure, ask to they, i know only that the glass was completely broken and they have repaired for free, i can only suppose that they repair this damages in warranty so the people remains happy to samsung and samsung service and so then the people buy others samsung devices.
Well, now I can see the point...
Folks, I hate to admit it and I nearly have to cry writing this: Since a few days, my shiny HTC ONE automatically turns its volume to the maximum by itself. I clean my HTC ONE about every two days and hope that nothing happened to the volume rockers while carefully cleaning my phone with love and a small amount of santizer. How do I know that this behavior is not caused by the AOKP 4.4.2 system running on it? Well, when in bootloader, same thing happens. I just have to turn my phone slightly to the right and then the blue bar in the menu moves up all the way.
Dafuk, what happened to my awesome phone? Is it uncalibrated, are my volume rockers stuck? What to do now?
same issue here. but I found it 1 month ago. This issue happened because of app installed. Mine was happened when I installed Tango. So if you install it you should uninstall Tango and test it again.
tamimifarokh said:
same issue here. but I found it 1 month ago. This issue happened because of app installed. Mine was happened when I installed Tango. So if you install it you should uninstall Tango and test it again.
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I don't have an app named "Tango". @tamimifarokh, did you have the same issues like I had in the bootloader, too?
No I haven't this. maybe volume button problem. check that
tamimifarokh said:
No I haven't this. maybe volume button problem. check that
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Nice catch. What do you think I'm trying to do here? ^^
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Folks, I hate to admit it and I nearly have to cry writing this: Since a few days, my shiny HTC ONE automatically turns its volume to the maximum by itself. I clean my HTC ONE about every two days and hope that nothing happened to the volume rockers while carefully cleaning my phone with love and a small amount of santizer. How do I know that this behavior is not caused by the AOKP 4.4.2 system running on it? Well, when in bootloader, same thing happens. I just have to turn my phone slightly to the right and then the blue bar in the menu moves up all the way.
Dafuk, what happened to my awesome phone? Is it uncalibrated, are my volume rockers stuck? What to do now?
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Send it in to HTC... had the same problem with the power button. Sometimes it got random input.. even in bootloader. I got a shiny new HTC One. Everything was back to Stock except S OFF.
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Send it in to HTC... had the same problem with the power button. Sometimes it got random input.. even in bootloader. I got a shiny new HTC One. Everything was back to Stock except S OFF.
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@LibertyMarine, thanks for your hint. I hate this, but it currently seems like the only solution right now.
There are two concerns that I have: First, I rooted my HTC ONE via HTC DEV. If they recognize that, I might have to pay a huge amount of money. And second, what if I get back a REPAIRED phone with a new motherboard? It'll highly likely be unrootable..
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@LibertyMarine, thanks for your hint. I hate this, but it currently seems like the only solution right now.
There are two concerns that I have: First, I rooted my HTC ONE via HTC DEV. If they recognize that, I might have to pay a huge amount of money. And second, what if I get back a REPAIRED phone with a new motherboard? It'll highly likely be unrootable..
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they WILL recognize it! But they can't prove that you actually used the unlock_token binary file! You can follow this guide (I think, based on your thanks meter and so on, that you know how it actually works, but saying too much in that case isn't a bad thing). I did everything except the S ON part. And they replaced it the first time and the second time... right now,... I don't know if they accept it too... but if they didn't I will fight for my rights. And in the warranty statement is written that the warranty is void only if the issue is CAUSED by modification. And on HTCdev they also write this MAY void your warranty! But things that aren't written in the warranty statement, you didn't accept. You bought the phone and accepted only to the statement that was with your phone in the same box!
And a unrootable HTC One because of a new motherboard? I didn't here about that. I only know from people that got a new motherboard and that they also rooted it again succesfully.
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And a unrootable HTC One because of a new motherboard? I didn't here about that. I only know from people that got a new motherboard and that they also rooted it again succesfully.
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Well, not unrootable, but extremely difficult - happened to me when my friend wanted to root his repaired HTC EVO 3D.
I'll probably give this replacement a shot. How long did it take you to get back your new phone, @LibertyMarine?
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Well, not unrootable, but extremely difficult - happened to me when my friend wanted to root his repaired HTC EVO 3D.
I'll probably give this replacement a shot. How long did it take you to get back your new phone, @LibertyMarine?
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That's annoying. I hope this won't happen to you too!
I am from Switzerland and I gave it to the shop where I bought it from(Microspot) and they sent it to an official HTC Repair Center and I gave it to them on a saturday and got it back 12 days later. They said it needs generally 2 weeks.
I hope you can do something with these informations and if they want to charge you - or even to be prepared - I have a few examples how you can convince HTC that this issue is not caused by you and that this is covered by warranty.
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UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER DOESN'T VOID THE WARRANTY FOR HARDWARE SUCH AS THE POWERBUTTON!!! I think it's point 7 in the warranty statement where they wrote that the fault has to be CAUSED by this particular ---- whatever is listed below.
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Someone had an issue with a sunk powerbutton, like me:
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Now, send them an email and tell them that in the warranty is written:
ONLY if it's CAUSED by external action, warranty is void for ONLY the part that got influenced by this cause! And also tell them that it is ridiculous and that they can't be serious saying that a few scratches and a unlocked bootloader caused a sunk power button! Tell them that this is against every human logic! Tell them that you have the right to use this warranty because the powerbutton sunk under normal usage! And this is definitly a production problem and not your fault! Describe them that you use your phone the way it has to be used!
But remember, be friendly and try to comunicate.. otherwise they won't deal.
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Same guy again:
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Try to give them your perspective.. how you experienced the sunk powerbutton. I said that from time to time it sunk deeper and deeper. And because I was afraid of destroying something I even pressed it softer and so on.. But once the point was reached that this ESSENTIAL part of the HTC One was unusable, so I felt forced to send it in on warranty because this is definitly a hardware fault and not a user fault! Try to give them your perspective!
This is almost everything. Be rethoric(Ask questions so that they must answer Yes! Ask questions that already include the answer) For example, Isn't it ridiculus and totally against every logic thinking that you say a unlocked bootloader is the cause of a sunk powerbutton?
As long as they are humans, they have to say, yes... this is the only answer... otherwise they would be ridiculus.
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They wanted to charge him(was a bad decision ):
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holy crap, say them they HAVE to, or are they willing to see a BIG article in a popular newspaper with your problem and their answer... ask the shop assistant if he wants his name to be published etc... PROVOKE! FORCE them to repair it on warranty.. say them that a friend of yours also got the phone fixed for the same issue
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But in the end this happend:
I will receive a refurbished htc one
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I hope this helps you if they want to charge you. And even if they didn't what you've just read is the first step to become a good dealer!
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You are from germany? Then I think this here can help you:
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
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I am from Switzerland and I gave it to the shop where I bought it from(Microspot) and they sent it to an official HTC Repair Center and I gave it to them on a saturday and got it back 12 days later. They said it needs generally 2 weeks.
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Hey @LibertyMarine, here's the strange thing: To make sure that it really is an issue with the heardware, I downgraded my firmware and reflashed my ROM. Same thing happened. Then, the same night, I upgraded back to the firmware I had before. And while the issue still persisted (tested it again), I went asleep. The next morning, my volume rockers worked correctly again!
To everyone reading this thread, here's what I expect what happened: While carefully cleaning my phone, a very small drop of santizer might have entered the spaces where the volume rockers sit. I expect that it took a while until it vaporized. everyone should take a look at how to properly clean the HTC ONE. I hope that my volume rockers continue to work as they should, I would hate to be without my shiny new HTC ONE and receiving a REFURBISHED ONE after sending it in. Generally, I don't like refurbished stuff. Yeah, call me old-fashioned, but I prefer to know that the stuff I bought has never been touched or tampered with. For now: THANK YOU for baring with me and responding to this thread - I'll be back if volume rockers go crazy again.
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Hey @LibertyMarine, here's the strange thing: To make sure that it really is an issue with the heardware, I downgraded my firmware and reflashed my ROM. Same thing happened. Then, the same night, I upgraded back to the firmware I had before. And while the issue still persisted (tested it again), I went asleep. The next morning, my volume rockers worked correctly again!
To everyone reading this thread, here's what I expect what happened: While carefully cleaning my phone, a very small drop of santizer might have entered the spaces where the volume rockers sit. I expect that it took a while until it vaporized. everyone should take a look at how to properly clean the HTC ONE. I hope that my volume rockers continue to work as they should, I would hate to be without my shiny new HTC ONE and receiving a REFURBISHED ONE after sending it in. Generally, I don't like refurbished stuff. Yeah, call me old-fashioned, but I prefer to know that the stuff I bought has never been touched or tampered with. For now: THANK YOU for baring with me and responding to this thread - I'll be back if volume rockers go crazy again.
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WOW! That's awesome! You are lucky. Thanks for your hind how to clean a HTC One! That will be very useful when I get back my One. I hope your phone won't get that issue again, otherwise, just PM me or quote me in this thread.
Have a nice week! :highfive:
Hey guys, good night/morning (or whatever) :silly: ,i'm here because i need help with my phone, months ago i was with the phone under the water, then one/two weeks later my power button got broken, the phone lock and unlock itself so many times,the volume buttons won't work correctly (but they work, u need to press them softly), and the camera button wont work (AT ALL) too... and i have no warranty (because they said there are a red dot in the sim slot), so, i saw the piece on ebay in like 10 bucks,
The question is, can my self disassembly my phone? Do i need a special Glue or something? (I have all the screwers), can one of you guys help me?
I will be pretty apreciatted THANKS :good:
PS: sorry for my bad english :\
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Hey guys, good night/morning (or whatever) :silly: ,i'm here because i need help with my phone, months ago i was with the phone under the water, then one/two weeks later my power button got broken, the phone lock and unlock itself so many times,the volume buttons won't work correctly (but they work, u need to press them softly), and the camera button wont work (AT ALL) too... and i have no warranty (because they said there are a red dot in the sim slot), so, i saw the piece on ebay in like 10 bucks,
The question is, can my self disassembly my phone? Do i need a special Glue or something? (I have all the screwers), can one of you guys help me?
I will be pretty apreciatted THANKS :good:
PS: sorry for my bad english :\
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Hello, you can find guides on how to open your z1 on YouTube and Google, however I would not risk it and open it my self
Hmmm, I need to do it myself because repair shops here they do that for like 50 Bucks, and the piece is only 10 bucks, so I'm saving much money, but risking my phone too :/
I'm a 17 years kid with no money haha, not working yet, that's because I didn't send it to the repair shop.
No body? :'(
I sent mine to Sony Service centre here in Singapore. My warranty covered it so it's free (despite having the liquid detector thing red). However it took me 4 and a half weeks for them to repair a freaking power button
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Hmmm, I need to do it myself because repair shops here they do that for like 50 Bucks, and the piece is only 10 bucks, so I'm saving much money, but risking my phone too :/
I'm a 17 years kid with no money haha, not working yet, that's because I didn't send it to the repair shop.
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Don't worry, I know your troubles, im 14 and i'd repair my phone myself, im kind of like the risk it or always have it broken, i've taken computers apart before and back together but different from a phone since there's tinier screws more tiny parts and risk of breaking tiny little things lol, I should stop there since im probably scaring you, I would fix my z1 myself but then i wouldn't put it back in water because i wouldn't be sure if my phone lost it's tight seal ability or not, but first i'd watch lots of take apart videos for the z1, also have a computer next to you so you can review the steps, one thing i know for sure is you need a heat gun of some sort to take the back off, then from there more taking apart
Hi Guys,
After I cleaned my phone Volume UP button is no longer working. I need to replace Volume Flex Board/ Daughter Board, Local service center does not have part. If someone has Dead /Damage device with working volume buttons willing to sell / giveaway please let me know.
smokin901 said:
Hi Guys,
After I cleaned my phone Volume UP button is no longer working. I need to replace Volume Flex Board/ Daughter Board, Local service center does not have part. If someone has Dead /Damage device with working volume buttons willing to sell / giveaway please let me know.
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Hey homie, I gotta used HTC One through Sprint, I tried replacing the screen on it but I fu#ked one of the connections up when I was putting it back together so I just got another one using my insurance. So I'm left with this other HTC One that dont really work but it would be great for what you need it for. I'll give it to you if you still need it. Let me know bro.. I got it so whenever you need it, it ain't goin anywhere. 10/10/2014
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Hey homie, I gotta used HTC One through Sprint, I tried replacing the screen on it but I fu#ked one of the connections up when I was putting it back together so I just got another one using my insurance. So I'm left with this other HTC One that dont really work but it would be great for what you need it for. I'll give it to you if you still need it. Let me know bro.. I got it so whenever you need it, it ain't goin anywhere. 10/10/2014
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Broken volume flex
hello all, who among you who know daughterboard flexible scheme? I need the schematic for repair pathways that break up the volume button when opening the rear shell