Hello everyone. I finally bought the Sony Xperia ZR.
Currently I'm running android 4.3 and I'm having mixed thoughts about updating to android 4.4.4
I know the best way for me to find out which is more suited to my needs is by trying both of them out but I have limited net plan.
So could I have some suggestions. Anything at all.
Which one, in YOUR opinion has better battery life, multitasking, gaming and anything else you can think of.
Thank you :good:
Always update to latest. Don't think about battery and other stuff.
Update version means corrections on past problem with better solution. It's never changing process.
Good luck.
Aniruddha10 said:
Hello everyone. I finally bought the Sony Xperia ZR.
Currently I'm running android 4.3 and I'm having mixed thoughts about updating to android 4.4.4
I know the best way for me to find out which is more suited to my needs is by trying both of them out but I have limited net plan.
So could I have some suggestions. Anything at all.
Which one, in YOUR opinion has better battery life, multitasking, gaming and anything else you can think of.
Thank you :good:
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after 4.4.4 update, my phone is overheating very quickly like in 10 mins usage of facebook or whatsapp or youtube
4.3 was better. and because of overheating, the battery life is shortened.
For me at least, 4.4.4 is much better, it's a lot more responsive, and doesn't have the battery drain bug that 4.4.2 had. The battery life isn't as good as 4.3, I don't think, but I'm not sure, since I'm running Xposed with a whole bunch of modules, some of which take up a lot of RAM and battery. Still, overall, I think you should update.
This is starting to get me depressed. I am close to pulling the trigger on one, in spite of the general consensus that Battery Life is Mediocre+. I had great hopes on Google's assertion that battery life on Lollipop would be improved. Now, most of the posts/reports I see are that Battery Live on MotoX2 is LESS on Lollipop. Clouding my decision again! Is battery life on this phone & Lollipop going to be that terrible?
l_stevens said:
This is starting to get me depressed. I am close to pulling the trigger on one, in spite of the general consensus that Battery Life is Mediocre+. I had great hopes on Google's assertion that battery life on Lollipop would be improved. Now, most of the posts/reports I see are that Battery Live on MotoX2 is LESS on Lollipop. Clouding my decision again! Is battery life on this phone & Lollipop going to be that terrible?
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The bad battery on lollipop is from a buggy build. It will improve.
Go and check the battery life thread in the general Moto X 2014 subforum. There are plenty of Moto X owners getting 5-6 hours of SOT.
Lollipop is producing battery life bugs on Nexus devices as well. Lollipop is a huge change for Android and Google will need a few months more to resolve the issues. It will be worth the wait.
Maybe they are encrypted. I am not and have great battery.
Seems like many have received the 6.0.1 update on android one devices as well. Has it improved the battery life compared to the drain issues on 6.0 or is it the same.
a little better, but ... flash thunderzap kernel or cody`s ..and you`ll get around 320-25 for a full charge ..
It's Worse
The battery life reduced drastically after i upgraded to 6.0.1. Especially the screen off time.
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Seems like many have received the 6.0.1 update on android one devices as well. Has it improved the battery life compared to the drain issues on 6.0 or is it the same.
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Its consuming more juice than lollipop. Was awesome on kitkat
Not great
A1 battery backup is bad
It has been 6 months i reverted back to kitkat and rooted and was happy playing and tweaking my phone. But off late phone is acting very bad on battery part. Battery reduces in no time even after all updates/syncs/gps etc everything being off as always.
So though about trying marshmallow but have no idea about its good or bad.
So can you guys comment on marshmallows battery life, camera enhancement fix, overall ui experiences etc??
So accordingly I can make my mind to upgrade.
For battery, check wakelocks on your phone. I installed no wakelock xposed to disable any apps that causing wakelock. And my battery is really good in kitkat, rather than mm.. cheers
nri_tech1183 said:
It has been 6 months i reverted back to kitkat and rooted and was happy playing and tweaking my phone. But off late phone is acting very bad on battery part. Battery reduces in no time even after all updates/syncs/gps etc everything being off as always.
So though about trying marshmallow but have no idea about its good or bad.
So can you guys comment on marshmallows battery life, camera enhancement fix, overall ui experiences etc??
So accordingly I can make my mind to upgrade.
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I am running SLiMM 1.9 and it is very very fast!
Battery life is good,getting about 4.5 to 5h of screen on time,camera is ok,no major difference,only if you use SLiMM I think it snaps photos quicker but it could be just a placebo effect.
Getting about 40k on AnTuTu which is pretty low but it could be just my device or a bug in AnTuTu.
Overall I would recommend to upgrade!
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I am running SLiMM 1.9
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What is this "SLiMM 1.9" ??Is this any patch to be applied once we load marshmallow?
i waiting final beta
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What is this "SLiMM 1.9" ??Is this any patch to be applied once we load marshmallow?
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It is a custom ROM based on 23.5.0.575
If you're happy with current phone and nothing bugs you, leave it.
I'm staying on L because there's no single issue I have with it and I like the STAMINA mode. Sony won't bring the same STAMINA back, they just rebranded the low battery saver as that and Doze is halfassed compared to STAMINA. So basically there's 0 appeal for the upgrade. I don't care about version numbers, I prefer much more not having to hassle with the phone and rely on it.
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If you're happy with current phone and nothing bugs you, leave it.
I'm staying on L because there's no single issue I have with it and I like the STAMINA mode. Sony won't bring the same STAMINA back, they just rebranded the low battery saver as that and Doze is halfassed compared to STAMINA. So basically there's 0 appeal for the upgrade. I don't care about version numbers, I prefer much more not having to hassle with the phone and rely on it.
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The latest Slimm actually brought stamina mode back. I can get a good 2-3 days of average use with it off though.
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The latest Slimm actually brought stamina mode back. I can get a good 2-3 days of average use with it off though.
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No, it didn't. They only changed the name of Power Save mode to Stamina mode.
Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?
scutterflux said:
Is there a solid comparison of the 3 main OS's, what's the preference and why?
(I've looked and can't really find one)
I'm on Lollipop right now and kind of miss KitKat for some reason.
KK I think was simpler somehow letting it run a bit cleaner without so much background noise yet just as functional as LP and MM, it feels like Sony put more effort into catering KK for the Z3 than LP or MM.
LP seems the most refined and polished, and does have more optimizations, I'm getting great antutu scores with it using slim 4.1 with some additional tweaks.
MM still haven't tried the latest and greatest, still seems like too much work to get it to where I would like it with these half baked releases and problems and functional losses I keep reading about.
I get that with each release most of us get excited (myself included) to try the latest and greatest thinking it's going to be an improvement, but what has actually improved and what has been lost? KK was stable with a few extra audio features had good start-up times and seemed snappier even though Antutu tells me LP is better and then there's Marshmallow...
What's your opinion? Any good threads I missed covering this topic?
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I kind of miss KitKat too and I did go back for a while, the reason I came back to MM Concept is because KitKat isn't perfect either. The notifications are miles better on LP and MM.
I agree that KitKat was simpler and Android 4.4.4 is probably my favorite version.
Antuntu and other benchmarks don't mean anything for daily use unless you play 3d games. There are videos on you tube showing that kitkat is faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx06yJMVT-U
Faster boot on kitkat was due to Dalvik, since Android 5.0 default runtime is ART. But I don't see why is that important, we don't boot our phone 10 times per day, do we?
I don't think there is a discussion on the forums about this, I would like to se it too but I think that people just jump to latest and greatest software...
Month ago I had Xperia Play wit GingerBread, now I have Z3C wit LP. I've tried LP and MM deeper. It's a big difference from GB. KK is much closer to GB, more "classic Android". Lolipop has much better SystemUI and almost all modifications is for LP. For KK there is only few mods for sound and that's all. I like KK cause backward compatibility too. On newer Android many older games like FIFA 12 are unplayable.
Time for Marshmallow will come in future. Today I don't see any advantage to use Android 6. There are no apps or games requiring it. Almost all apps want max 4.4. Speed or multitasking is in my opinion the same in all of the three versions - honestly Z3C has too much power that few percent in terms of performance is useless. The only reason to use MM is Xperia X camera framework in SLIMM 1.9 ROM (but this version is too buggy) - on the other hand, for Lolipop there are Z5 camera files.
Generaly the best from these three is (in my opinion) Lolipop. It looks nice, it's "reskined" Kittkat with some new and better features, has biggest fan support, it's stable, fast and complete - all features working as they should and nothing is missing. Almost all Xposed modules are compatible or has version that is compatible with Lolipop. Marhsmallow breaks the classic - some features are on different places, are little bit different at all and some of them aren't there completely (stamina - in latest build is only "something" like stamina; Dualshock 3 support and so on). There is to much to improve. Kittkat is for old school users, which want better compatibility with older apps or want to play SHIELD games, cause they don't run on Lolipop or Marshmallow in my case.
I just installed KK for a go, and it's pretty snappy, I don't miss lockscreen notifications from LP because I don't use them. All the functions I use are still there and with Xperia Xposed all the UI tweaks I like are still available. I'm not sure I'll notice an improvement in battery life because it was still pretty good on LP but I'll watch for that as most reports tend to favour KK in this department. I was thinking about what you (Miicheall) said about gaming, and there's this game I've been wanting to try for awhile (Army of Darkness Defence) and could never get it to work on LP, so I just installed it on KK and hey what do you know it works!
I have to correct myself - SHIELD games like Half-Life 2 or Portal are playable on Lollipop - on MM not. Many games working on KK but on higher version not. So good luck and have fun
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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LP Is very stable, battery is great if you decide to take effort and install greenify and limit app permissions and wakelocks. Marshmallow honestly at this point is not that good with most users reporting the Doze feature being somewhat useless
You're having a laugh LP was the worst OS update by Google for some time, it's been beset with nothing but trouble.
I know this is not the norm according to reports but monitoring battery usage with 3c toolbox LP in idle is drawing less ma than KK in idle, both are set up with stamina... same settings with sync, gps, and lte off, about 50% brightness... Go figure. I'm using both with Moly82'm debloated versions for comparison so that could have something to do with it. LP shows about 100 more apps when booting VS moly82's KK version too so that isn't factoring in as an advantage with battery life.
I'm also liking the ability for 32-bit audio output in lollipop which is wonderful and does make an audible improvement with Neutron, Camera mods for lollipop are better as far as I can tell, however now I can't play that Army of Darkness game.
I tried some MM versions and I hate the swipe for app search feature and the mods and tweaks I like aren't there yet so I will continue to wait on that, but it does seem like the smoothest version of all.
They are all giving me problems with the stock email attachment feature, is there something wrong with an update or something?
I held onto KK as long as possible until my phone had to be sent in for warranty due to a speaker failure. The Sony repair center loaded the latest version of LP onto my phone and it was actually bug free (unlike the early versions). However, it never had the battery life of KK. When using the phone, it had the same rate of battery drain as KK, but when idle, it seemed to drain twice as fast as KK. It seemed like Stamina mode in LP only gave me the equivalent battery life of KK without Stamina mode. SO, with KK, I could get 2 days of usage without stamina, and nearly 4 days with it. Both of those numbers were cut in half with LP.
I put up with it for as long as I could though until about two weeks ago. I finally flashed KK onto my phone again and WOW, it is refreshing to no longer worry about my battery throughout the day. Plus, the pull down notification menu in KK is way better! It's so annoying to have to swipe down twice in LP/MM/N. Plus, ticker style notifications are far less intrusive than the banner style in LP/MM/N. Finally, I just like the black background with white text that is displayed in the pull down menu. It seems so much cleaner to me than the grayish-green that LP/MM/N uses.
The one thing I miss about LP is the banner notification for phone calls when you're using the device. KK takes over the whole screen and is very intrusive. I downloaded an app that tries to mimic this LP feature, but it only works 80% of the time. I still plan to stick with KK until I upgrade to a new device in 2017.
techguyone said:
KK was the best by far for stability, battery life and function - as long as you're ok with the horrid KK restrictions on SD card functionality. I wish I'd stayed on that, and that's after being on LP & MM,.
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Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.
kwstas 13 said:
Which are the sd card restrictions you mentioned?! I'm using my sd card without problems on Kitkat (for a week now) and I do only care about the mass storage mode,a feature that is provided on both KK and MM versions.
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Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.
I definitely think KK has the best battery and is the most stable, but I wish there were more (or any, really) camera mods for it. You have to be on at least LP for there to be any decent mods, although I do think KK has the smoothest image stabilization for video recording. However, image quality takes a big hit.
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Only system apps can write to the external SD card for some reason in KitKat unless you're rooted.
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Hadn't mentioned that, guess I don't need this one. Kitkat still runs smoothly by the way.
So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?
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So given that there are camera mods only for LP and MM - which OS has given you the best battery performance in your experience?
Isn't it worth upgrading to MM just to be sure to have all latest security patches?
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For me MM is the way to go, just flash any of custom stock based MM roms and run slimcore debloat, I'm having great battery performance lasting me whole day (i get 4-6h of sof with 70% of that beeing youtube) and it seems like the most fluid and eye pleasing experience, and for camera mods, I would only suggest unlocked camera, others are kinda gimmicky, but best and only way to find out what suits you is to try it yourself, you can see that in this thread only we have a lot of divided opinions.
Good luck