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I have a new Tilt (stock) I want to know if it supports 2 lines? Att phone reps said no, store rep says yes. I want to have my business line and personal line on the same phone - trouble is they are 2 different ATT accounts. Does anyone know for sure if the tilt supports 2 lines? Does anyone know how to mod the sim or the procedure to get a 2nd line from another account onto the phone I have a sim reader/writer but instructions are in hyroglyphics. Could anyone recomend a sim programmer that would do the trick or is the sim card id going to be the road block?
You can look into this solution:
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TyTN-II.html
Thanks
I have ordered this sim and will post back after I install it as to how the install whent.
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you can get a dual sim card on ebay
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you can get a dual sim card on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-In-1-GSM-Dual...ryZ48501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have a new Tilt (stock) I want to know if it supports 2 lines? Att phone reps said no, store rep says yes. I want to have my business line and personal line on the same phone - trouble is they are 2 different ATT accounts. Does anyone know for sure if the tilt supports 2 lines? Does anyone know how to mod the sim or the procedure to get a 2nd line from another account onto the phone I have a sim reader/writer but instructions are in hyroglyphics. Could anyone recomend a sim programmer that would do the trick or is the sim card id going to be the road block?
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the adapters that are being listed here will allow you to insert two SIM cards into the device, but only one SIM can be active at a time (so if you have SIM one active, even if not on a call, the second SIM calls/SMS will not show up until to switch).
The Tilt has the ability to accept two numbers but this is a network restriction. Speak to AT&T about MULTISIM or placing a redirect on one of the lines. That way you will have ONE SIM and will be able to accept calls for business and personal on one phone (even have the ability of placing one on hold whilst receving the other).
The only issue comes to your number - people can contact you using either the business number or the personal number. but when you send SMS or make a call, your number will be shown. You need to decide whether this is to be the personal or business numbers shown as you can't easily change this once it is setup.
As I say, speak to your network if the above is the option you are wanting, else go ahead with the dual SIM adapter if you are happy to change over to keep checking for new SMS and voicemails.
Thanks!
I will try out the forwarding, my problem is that my personal line is for another business - I want to be able to determins the origin of the call (ie: from buiness 1 or 2) so I can answer correctly. If I do the forwarding I'm not sure on how to identify the calls. Would it make more sense to port one of the numbers to a land line and then forward it to the phone so when a call comes in it will show the landline caller ID and I will know to answer abc company rather than xyz company? Thoughts?
i think your idea on the divert to landline then divert landline back to mobile is good.
just remember about answerphones - you want people to know they've reached the right place, but don't want to give them the wrong number or name! maybe change your mobile answerphone to "hi it's Bob, please leave a message and i'll return your call" (or whatever - just no number and no business name).
also keep in mind that divert costs. so if i was to telephone you, I pay the normal fee but you pay for the cost of calling your landline from your mobile, and then the cost of calling the mobile from the landline on your home bill. Effectively you would be paying for TWO calls for every call you received.
Why not just divert straight from line 1 to line 2? Then you just pay for call forwarding from the one line?
Hope some of this is helping you
PsyOpWarlord said:
You can look into this solution:
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TyTN-II.html
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This is a great idea. Has anyone here tried this on a Kaiser?
Hi,
Tried using the search function here but nothing came up in the X1 forums. I have been thinking about getting the X1 but given my normal needs, I need access to two numbers during the day.
Is anyone already using a dual sim adapter (cut or uncut version) or knows of a reliable one for the X1?
Thank
Hi
I just ordered one the other day. When I get it i'll report if its any good or not!
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
I just ordered one the other day. When I get it i'll report if its any good or not!
Nigel
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How do you plug it?
You must remove the battery cover.
Hi
I think its the usual "saw up your sim cards" job, then fit the important bits into a holder thats the same size as a normal sim, then stick this in the sim slot.
For the most part switching between sims involves powering off/on the phone. I did have one in the distant past that would swap sims when you set it to flight mode then back out again.
We shall see, it was only £6 quid iirc.
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
I think its the usual "saw up your sim cards" job, then fit the important bits into a holder thats the same size as a normal sim, then stick this in the sim slot.
For the most part switching between sims involves powering off/on the phone. I did have one in the distant past that would swap sims when you set it to flight mode then back out again.
We shall see, it was only £6 quid iirc.
Nigel
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The dual sims also have phone numbers to switch sim.
Ps. could you share link. I also wanna buy a good one.
please tell us of the HSDPA works with the dial sim card thing because most of the time only 3G is supported
Any news?????
So what happened?
Anyone know if there are adaptors which will always use one SIM card unless told otherwise (rather than switch when power-off)? Ta.
i guess no updates on this but i did see this:
http://www.simore.ch/video.php?docid=961068269296981089
Do dual sims work in the X1?
I'm using the dualsim adapter of simore in my xperia
switching from sim1 (vodafone) to sim2 (simyo/eplus) works realy fine - it durate max 15 seconds
but switching back to sim1 making sometimes trouble...so that i has to softreset the phone
i dont know if that is a global problem with the xperia and the simore adapter or if somethin is damaged in the simcards/adapter?!
additional i have to change the sms service number after changing the simcards...
has someone problems with that too? or a better solution?
sorry for bad english O
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Yeh, Simore are meant to be the best, I was looking to get one also but for the good Simore one you are looking at paying 70euros which is far too much.
Unfortunately, the design of the Xperia means it is only possible to use Sim Adapters that chop the sim card to pieces and fit them in the size of 1 sim.
Edit: http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/Sony-Ericsson/Xperia-X1.html
Curious to know if that works on Kaiser. They are charging exorbitantly high. wish to know if there are any other reliable agencies offering same service. Cheers.
I ordered few different models from eBay but either of them didint work. If someone succeeds on this please report.
I had an older dual-SIM adaptor that I've been using for the last couple of years. I tried it in the X1 and it worked okay (flight mode to switch). The problem was that it didn't support any 3G at all, so in a 3G area it was constantly attempting to get a 3G lock, dropping the signal, then trying to get a lock again. In the end I had to disable HSDPA.
Then I got a new SIM from O2. I just put the SIM in directly without the adaptor. BLAM! Better signal and HSDPA access. So I've been on the lookout for another adaptor that still allows for switching but supports HSDPA. I keep ending up at simore.ch as well and wonder if their "Black 1" is up to the task. I don't want to pay out €40 just to see if it works though... I need to hear from someone else who has bought one and used it for HSDPA access.
So the question is who will bell the cat. None of us are eager to try it out. So would like someone with his experience to come over here & let others know if it was a success or not. I am interested in kaiser utility.Cheers
i have to disable hsdpa and umts while using my simore black1 adapter...if hsdpa is enabled the connection always broke down
it show the symbol that the signal is good and after 30-60seconds my xperia search for signal...endlessly...
i dont know if that is a problem with one of my sims (but without the sim adapter they both connect to hsdpa) or if that is a problem of simore
i think the last one
It's the sim adaptor.
My old one does EXACTLY the same thing. It attempts to get a H or 3G lock, then loses the signal and recycles back again. It sounds like simore are just the same as the £6 one that I got from eBay 2-3 years ago.
I just cannot understand why it's so problematic to build a sort of cartridge (like those dual-SIM adapters) with two EEPROM of Flash elements inside and sell it together with a USB SIM reader-writer?
So any basic user could copy his/her two SIMs to this cartridge and skip all the mess with improper cutting and loosing two SIMs?
AFAIK any SIM could be fully read. Why it cannot be simply copied?
I've got very cheap dual sim adaptor (11th generation) and it fully works in new itje's ROM. I also copied STK from this ROM to memory card and tried it in older itje's ROM Touck-It 4.0 RC1.1 I could connect to internet via HSDPA and simply switch SIMs, so you don't need too expensive SIMORE adaptor.
Edit: I have tested internet connection short time and I didn't have signal lost, I'm out of credit right now but I will report more after I'll top-up and do more tests.
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Hi,
So I was thinking, is it possible with some driver may be to make a virtual copy of a physical SIM card, possibly copy 3-4 cards and make the phone work in multi-card mode without the need of SIM cards being physically present?
now that would be nice, a great idea, im pretty sure someone could make something like this since like other phones like sprint dont have a sim card sometimes are programed directly to the phone maybe its the same prosses.
also would make it easier for many like me that have 2 or more sim cards i myself have a T-Mobile (US) and Movistar (Mex.) sim cards and its a bother to have to change them when visiting like right now im in Mexico at the moment.
but it also would bring up another problem to have something like that.
for example someone gets your sim card (if you dont know anything about such program and if made) and someone with mischeif on their minds saves your sim information and uses it as they please. (then again. its just like stealing your phone, you would call your provider and disactivate it so no further charges would apply the second you knew that something was up. its just harder to know since you would have to wait till the bill comes in)
but if at all possible i would use it for good. would be nice
tombrighteyes said:
now that would be nice, a great idea, im pretty sure someone could make something like this since like other phones like sprint dont have a sim card sometimes are programed directly to the phone maybe its the same prosses.
also would make it easier for many like me that have 2 or more sim cards i myself have a T-Mobile (US) and Movistar (Mex.) sim cards and its a bother to have to change them when visiting like right now im in Mexico at the moment.
but it also would bring up another problem to have something like that.
for example someone gets your sim card (if you dont know anything about such program and if made) and someone with mischeif on their minds saves your sim information and uses it as they please. (then again. its just like stealing your phone, you would call your provider and disactivate it so no further charges would apply the second you knew that something was up. its just harder to know since you would have to wait till the bill comes in)
but if at all possible i would use it for good. would be nice
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Indeed, i hope it is possible. I dont think theft would be any problem at all, because the gsm network should not accept simultaneous login from the same SIM card. It just makes sense to be this way. I myself have to use up to 5 cards and growing. Ultimately, virtual SIM cards would also enable purchasing cards from the internet and also cheapest route selection, things like this..
point made.
you have a point.
i forgot about the network not allowing you to have two at the same time.
but yeah then again, it shouldn't be much of a problem i think. 5 cards is alot.
but you're right if such a program where made, it would open the market so mucho more and one could actually buy online sim card info. and if this program where made, one could save the info to the phone then back it up to a computer (where it's safe, most of the time atleast) and maybe the same program could write back to a sim card thats not activated (for purposes just as loosing a sim card, but not the info.) now there's an idea for ya.
would be super nice!
too bad i have no clue on how to program such things, but ideas i have
if anyone takes the challenge to create it, if at all possible i would gladly donate since i would use it surely.
Possible, but..
It's possible if you have the Ki and IMSI values from your SIM. The IMSI is easy, but cracking the Ki is only possible in old SIM cards, using COMP128-1 encryption.
All the SIM cloning tools on eBay can clone only these old cards.
A virtual sim card is a really cool idea. No more swapping sim cards between you primairy phone and your backup phone... (I only have only one sim)
kolomparrudi said:
It's possible if you have the Ki and IMSI values from your SIM. The IMSI is easy, but cracking the Ki is only possible in old SIM cards, using COMP128-1 encryption.
All the SIM cloning tools on eBay can clone only these old cards.
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IMSI can be be read with an nokia e51 using the blackberry connect softwre. you can see the imsi value in the programe info where you must enter to view you PIN.
emilgaig said:
IMSI can be be read with an nokia e51 using the blackberry connect softwre. you can see the imsi value in the programe info where you must enter to view you PIN.
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No they give you the IMEI number not the IMSI.
The problem you would have is that sooner or later the networks would block your phone because they will see the fact that your phone is running 4-5 mobile numbers with ONE IMEI no. Ebay is littered with Cheap dual active SIM phones. They only have one IMEI and sooner or later the network(s) will switch off your phone.
The way round this is to have 2 IMEI numbers to run 2 sim cards at the same time...abit like the Samsung D880. This basically means you have 2 phones with 1 screen and 1 keypad...i have one and i know these work great!!.
Regards
Wasim
The will not block you for changin sims, right?
And also GSM won't allow you to register simulteniously two sims, only one at a time...
Cos TD has only ONE GSM inside, not two as Samsung DuoS
What the progress of the topic, people?
I certainly hope this is not possible. I wouldn't want to know anyone can copy and use my simcard. That would be an unacceptable breach of security for any mobile phone user.
This might be a good breach, and it exists, just need a tool to use it with windows mobile! I can even now COPY MY SIM to another sim, yes - it's need a liitle crack with it, but card itself intact, and i can have a copy
So - What are solutions now for windows mobile?
i really like to know if it is possible. but i dont think an emulator is a must because in ppc we can easly turn off the cellular connection and turn it on again. that way (if you've used old 3in1 sim cards, you'd know) you can change the operator. every time you restarted the gsm connection, your operator will change.
and what about connecting to more-than-one operator at the same time?
cheers
and what about connecting to more-than-one operator at the same time?
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that function is not possible (c) Thor, Stargate SG-1
pedmond said:
I certainly hope this is not possible. I wouldn't want to know anyone can copy and use my simcard. That would be an unacceptable breach of security for any mobile phone user.
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I am in Saudi & have 3 sim cards(STC) with the same number. One in my laptop, One in my Samsung, one in my Diamond. All work for internet at the same time to use for phone I activate by *123$ (this is then primary card for incoming & texts). When in Spain I have 2 cards(Movistar) both of these work & ring at the same time, but text messages only goes to one of them.
Virtual Sim Card
hello ladies and gentleman this is a very good idea i was thinking about the same idea today... In the virtual sim card there should be a tracking device installed in the phone so that when it is stolen you can track down the phone or the company can switch of the phone and it will have no use and all your data is safe... I am all the way in africa Botswana and my name is delmar dube i am willing to do more research on this because i want to see it come true
I would be surprised if this was possible... the GSM chipset firmware is pretty much sealed off from a phone's operating system except for the AT command interface. Otherwise people would be able to fiddle with transmit power which would invalidate the phone's FCC/etc certifications.
Any progress??
Heyy like most on this forum thread I just thought of this last night, I have an unlimited plan with Wind Mobile (who's coverage is um.... not great) with Unlimited internet and talking and texting for $29/mo. Unfortunately I spend the majority of my time outside their current coverage area, and would like to get one of Telus' "One Number Unlimited" voice plan ($7/mo) for when I'm outside of Wind's area but still want to call my girlfriend. Virutal Switchable SIM cards would be a great solution since my phone doesn't exactly like to co-operate with me when I try to turn it on after having the battery removed to get access to the SIM slot. Plus I don't want to be carrying around a little tiny piece of plastic that'll give me chaos if I ever lost it.
Anyways I'm running a Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4g (4g is the name of the phone, it's just LTE of 3G though), It's running ICS 4.*something.
Oh yeah, sorry for being a grave-digger
I love this idea. I mean apple now has patents for virtual simcards, I really hope the android market follows suit. I have 6 sim cards and counting (Afghanistan, Switzerland, United States, Korea, Philippines, and UAE), and would love to be able to purchase and activate my "virtual sim card" off of say the Google Play Store, prior to flying into a country.
I wouldn't mind some kind of DRM or whatnot, just being able to buy service before I go into country, and then have calling and data capabilities as soon as I walk off the plane would be worth it.
I have a korean Galaxy S2, which has the sim tray damaged, being impossible to connect any SIM card.
If I could use virtually my SIM card, I coud use this phone.
Is this possible??
I just wanted to use one SIM card just for phone calls, dont even need services like internet...
My request is almost the exact opposite of this page,they want their cars to be able to use the rSAP profile on the N1,what I want is for the N1 to be able to connect to another device and use its sim. I have 2 T-Mobile sims,one has data,but no calling or text,and my other sim has voice and text,but no data. What I want to do it have the data sim in my N1 and leave my voice sim in another phone,and use the nexus to handle both.
Anyone have any ideas? I have a bootloader unlocked N1 running a rom that I pieced together from several roms on here that I can test on if anyone comes up with anything.
Tethering ?
Hello,
I currently have a Nano sim card and the Xperia Z doesn't seem to recognize it when I've fit it with the Nano to Micro sim adapter. Has anyone had success with the Nano to Micro adapter or does the Xperia Z only "recognize" true Micro sim cards?
My partner has the same phone as myself XZ she has the nano SIM working in her XZ it was fiddle getting the simcard in as the XZ has tray itself so I can't see reasons why you have these issues tbh I cut the simcard myself as she wanted the iPhone 5 till I got my upgrade she wanted this XZ now stuck with 3 contracts but hey hope this helps.. Just make sure it's all aligned up and it's inserted with SIM contacts facing down..
Sent from my C6603 using xda premium
charvin96 said:
Hello,
I currently have a Nano sim card and the Xperia Z doesn't seem to recognize it when I've fit it with the Nano to Micro sim adapter. Has anyone had success with the Nano to Micro adapter or does the Xperia Z only "recognize" true Micro sim cards?
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I have a nano sim with micro sim adaptor, works fine, just make sure you have the sim inserted correctly and up the right way.
I can't for the life of me figure out what this network problem is. I'm with Bell Canada and the sim card is not cooperating - haven't been able to get service and I inserted the sim card with the adaptor properly because it recognizes the phone number I have. Going to try buying a Micro sim tomorrow and see if that works, if not, this phone might have to go back :crying:
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I can't for the life of me figure out what this network problem is. I'm with Bell Canada and the sim card is not cooperating - haven't been able to get service and I inserted the sim card with the adaptor properly because it recognizes the phone number I have. Going to try buying a Micro sim tomorrow and see if that works, if not, this phone might have to go back :crying:
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So what is your problem exactly? Can you make phone calls? Can you recieve phone calls? Is data not working?...
Anyway try this. Go into settings, then more under data usage, then mobile network settings, Access point names, do you have any listed here? If not go into network operators, should force the phone to search and list ALL the available networks, all the ones with the NO symbol will be other neworks you can't use on that SIM. Now select your appropriate option. Make sure data is enabled.
Data is enabled but I have the red exclamation point in the top left of the status bar indicating no service - can't make calls, no data, not able to browse the internet, etc. All the normal things you would expect to do with data, of course, I can still go on Wifi and such.
My network doesn't seem to be showing up when it searches for service providers, all I see is 2G/3G EXT under my available networks.
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So what is your problem exactly? Can you make phone calls? Can you recieve phone calls? Is data not working?...
Anyway try this. Go into settings, then more under data usage, then mobile network settings, Access point names, do you have any listed here? If not go into network operators, should force the phone to search and list ALL the available networks, all the ones with the NO symbol will be other neworks you can't use on that SIM. Now select your appropriate option. Make sure data is enabled.
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Maybe your provider is not sending out APN's/connection settings for this phone, or has the sending of APN's/connections locked down to known devices for their network, would pay to ask them first before you purchase another SIM etc.
xperia z no service
i have quite similar problem too. my problem is, i often got no service when i am outside my home. whenever i was in my home, the connection network is excellent. but when i went outside home like going to work, i got no service at all.
the only way i tried to get the connection back is by trying to call someone, then the network will be present about a couple of seconds and then no service at all.
please help me, i can make phone call when i am at home but i couldnt receive any phone call when i am outside. i am the opinion that the service provider cut my sim card wrongly. could it be the problem?
thanks in advance.
Hi Everyone,
I have purchased my Xperiz Z 'C6602' in the start of this year (2014). Yesterday, I faced a problem that my mobile was showing no Sim card detection. I have restarted my mobile many times, open the Sim slot and again placed it corrected but the problem persists. I have reset my mobile, check the aeroplane mode but all is well. I am wondering that how this happened because my mobile was working great. I used it at night very well and then after some hours at morning the mobile showed no network connection (detect no Sim) while the Sim was in the Sim Slot.
Please tell me the solution of this problem. Thanks
problems with 3 in 1 sim cards- solved
Had problems with my new Consumer Cellular card in a 6 month old LG phone (takes full size card) and a 1 year old Samsung 3 mini (takes mid sized card).
The original card they sent me was a 2 in 1 card and worked fine in both. When I had my number transfered from my original carrier they sent me a new card which was 3 in 1. It initially worked but then stopped in both within a couple of hours. They sent me new 3 in 1 card- same problem.
I read on line to put a piece of paper about the thickness of a manila folder between the top of the card and the metal bracket to apply more force to the contacts- worked fine in BOTH phones.
Why? Because the nano section of the SIM is thinner than the other two sections. To make matters worse, the side with the contacts is recessed into the card instead of flush to the face of the card. When it is placed in a non-nano phone, there is insufficient force on the electrical contacts.
Hope this helps someone.
dcm0123 said:
Had problems with my new Consumer Cellular card in a 6 month old LG phone (takes full size card) and a 1 year old Samsung 3 mini (takes mid sized card).
The original card they sent me was a 2 in 1 card and worked fine in both. When I had my number transfered from my original carrier they sent me a new card which was 3 in 1. It initially worked but then stopped in both within a couple of hours. They sent me new 3 in 1 card- same problem.
I read on line to put a piece of paper about the thickness of a manila folder between the top of the card and the metal bracket to apply more force to the contacts- worked fine in BOTH phones.
Why? Because the nano section of the SIM is thinner than the other two sections. To make matters worse, the side with the contacts is recessed into the card instead of flush to the face of the card. When it is placed in a non-nano phone, there is insufficient force on the electrical contacts.
Hope this helps someone.
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Was looking up ways to get the sim card tray FIXED.. Brilliant solution, indeed. Paper ROCKS>> Once I put a few pieces of paper between the sim card and the tray, the sim is detected. Thanks a ton for sharing the simple and effective solution!!