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My xperia Z has been exposed to tiny amount of fluid through the headphone jack, im using stock rom, but with doomkernel v9, after exposed to the little amount of fluid, it suddenly shut down and turn on again, but then the rom appear what it says at the bottom left "Safe Mode", at first i thought theres nothing to worry about, just reboot then everything back to normal... but when i done that, the LED indicator show Red color, vibrate once, few second later it vibrate 3 times and it begins to do that over and over again without even entering the boot screen... now i cant get the rom booted... Help me, what must i do?? Can i get it to work again by drying it up using a hair dryer???
It's dead, red LED, vibrate > 2 sec > 3x vibrate and reboot is an unrecoverable hardware fault.
Whatever you do, don't use heat. Put it in a bowl of dry rice with all flaps open for a day or two to absorb the liquid. If that doesn't help there is nothing to do.
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leave it in rice for a few weeks since its water resistant it will tak longer to absorb anything.
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Vacuum/hair-dryer are both bad ideas for electronics. The vacuum is bad because it creates a lot of static electricity, and the hair-dryer because, obviously, it heats the phone up to high temperatures.
What you should do immediately is to turn it off (hold Power and Volume up until it vibrates thrice), open all the flaps and put the phone in a bag of rice, letting the rice absorb the water for around a week or so (or at the very least 3-4 days), preferably with a drained/removed battery but this isn't really an option with Xperia Z. After this you need to make sure to get all the rice out before closing the flaps and starting it up.
Fingers crossed nothing has short circuited and/or corroded yet!
Please note: leave the phone in the rice for at least a full week with all flaps open and removable components taken out.
Thanks for the reply guys, and yeah old tricks using a bag of rice... erm, does a silica gel helps, because im using it now... hopefully...
killgrozrism said:
Thanks for the reply guys, and yeah old tricks using a bag of rice... erm, does a silica gel helps, because im using it now... hopefully...
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The silica should work better than the rice.
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XperienceD said:
The silica should work better than the rice.
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Owh ****! I really hate this kinda situation... really got me down and depressing...
killgrozrism said:
Owh ****! I really hate this kinda situation... really got me down and depressing...
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Hope it's OK. And yeah, as he said, the silica will work even better that's what it's designed for after all.
Why is nobody putting forward the fact that the OP's phone might be permanently damaged? It was powered on with fluid inside it, which may have shorted out some critical components.
In that case, no amount of time in rice or silica will do any good.
Edit, I see Rekoil mentioned shorting/corrosion above. While getting the phone near absorbent material quickly may prevent corrosion, it's likely that any shorting out of components would have happened instantly. I hope the OP's phone isn't destroyed, but I wouldn't hold much hope for it as powering on a device with fluid inside it is pretty much the worst thing that you can do.
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kingvortex said:
Why is nobody putting forward the fact that the OP's phone might be permanently damaged? It was powered on with fluid inside it, which may have shorted out some critical components.
In that case, no amount of time in rice or silica will do any good.
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Because OP probably knows that and it would be of no use to discuss it?
Rekoil said:
Because OP probably knows that and it would be of no use to discuss it?
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You'd think. But then you'd think that sense would dictate immediately powering off the device in the situation they were in.
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kingvortex said:
You'd think. But then you'd think that sense would dictate immediately powering off the device in the situation they were in.
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You gotta learn one way or another.
Rekoil said:
You gotta learn one way or another.
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The possible loss of a really expensive phone is a hard lesson to learn, but yes I agree that everyone learns somehow.
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Lesson learn, dont take for granted the water resistant features... Hope ill be able to get my phone to boot again by trying out the rice/silica method... Thanks y'all!
I've had exactly ther same problem with my Z.
The jack connector with the water sensor is really bad placed!
I've listened to music under the rain with an umbrella, i've just taken one drop directly on the sensor, so now i've the detector totally red but my phone works perfectly, when i've contacted Sony they said that not taking in charge of warranty :'(
Just be carefull with your phone if you're listening to music with this jack connector or use blutooth headset.
killgrozrism said:
Lesson learn, dont take for granted the water resistant features... Hope ill be able to get my phone to boot again by trying out the rice/silica method... Thanks y'all!
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Don't take them for granted, but that doesn't mean they are completely unreliable. Just really make sure the flaps are closed and you'll be fine.
QualQuek said:
I've had exactly ther same problem with my Z.
The jack connector with the water sensor is really bad placed!
I've listened to music under the rain with an umbrella, i've just taken one drop directly on the sensor, so now i've the detector totally red but my phone works perfectly, when i've contacted Sony they said that not taking in charge of warranty :'(
Just be carefull with your phone if you're listening to music with this jack connector or use blutooth headset.
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Getting a Bluetooth headset was a pretty obvious decision for me I must say.
QualQuek said:
I've had exactly ther same problem with my Z.
The jack connector with the water sensor is really bad placed!
I've listened to music under the rain with an umbrella, i've just taken one drop directly on the sensor, so now i've the detector totally red but my phone works perfectly, when i've contacted Sony they said that not taking in charge of warranty :'(
Just be carefull with your phone if you're listening to music with this jack connector or use blutooth headset.
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While I agree with the sentiment that you should indeed be careful with the phone, the water ingress tape is in exactly the right place. The water resistance is compromised with the flap open (even with headphones connected), therefore the tape is positioned to indicate that the flap was open when contact with water was made
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kingvortex said:
While I agree with the sentiment that you should indeed be careful with the phone, the water ingress tape is in exactly the right place. The water resistance is compromised with the flap open (even with headphones connected), therefore the tape is positioned to indicate that the flap was open when contact with water was made
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Which is why this is such a good idea for this reason as well.
Rekoil said:
Don't take them for granted, but that doesn't mean they are completely unreliable. Just really make sure the flaps are closed and you'll be fine.
Getting a Bluetooth headset was a pretty obvious decision for me I must say.
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Indeed that a wise choice, sadly i've bought with my a Bose OE2 in same time as my Xperia Z...
QualQuek said:
Indeed that a wise choice, sadly i've bought with my a Bose OE2 in same time as my Xperia Z...
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So buy a Sony SBH50 or something. That way you can use your regular headphones and still not have to open the flap for them.
I noticed to night that My One will not charge unless you PHYSICALLY hold the cord to the bottom right of the port...
I have tried multiple HTC and other brand cords... I am in the process of the RUU just incase XD
Kwongger said:
I noticed to night that My One will not charge unless you PHYSICALLY hold the cord to the bottom right of the port...
I have tried multiple HTC and other brand cords... I am in the process of the RUU just incase XD
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Damn that sucks. No issues here.
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Kwongger said:
I noticed to night that My One will not charge unless you PHYSICALLY hold the cord to the bottom right of the port...
I have tried multiple HTC and other brand cords... I am in the process of the RUU just incase XD
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Sounds like you broke the charging port.
Should I be worried? Mine is hecka loose and I really have to jam it in there for it to not wiggle around.
f888 me. So much for build quality.
sauprankul said:
Should I be worried? Mine is hecka loose and I really have to jam it in there for it to not wiggle around.
f888 me. So much for build quality.
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Try to use a toothpick to pick out the dust/dirt/lint.
Don't suggest putting anything metal in there. Same to the OP. If it's completely clean, even in the back, try to gently move the charging port or pieces of it, for god's sake don't push it hard, but if anything moves significantly with a gentle push, then the charging port is broken and will need to be replaced.
Sometimes that's covered under warranty, sometimes it isn't.
I don't know exactly how to describe this. But my Xperia Z1 seems slightly bent at one side. The power button side. Look at the pic. Lying on a flat surface. Compare the power button side and the usb side. In honesty, my phone has been recently exposed to a lotta heat. Abuja, Nigeria is really hot. The phone got so hot that day it actually started damaging the carrying pouch. Should I be worried?
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idk if my eyes are bad..
but isn't that more like a hump on the battery part?
seems logical if it is a hump... batteries are never good with high heat exposure
well try putting i on a flat table and get a shot from the sides while the phone is lying on the back and front
Check this
and yes you should be worried ... more so for your health!
Did you keep it in your back pocket?
I came across two images of Xperia Z1 Bent on Sony Mobile forum. It seems very sad that users are saying that they didn't put it back pocket and not at all sat on it.
so I put up a post here to make users aware of this http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/11/17/xperia-z1-screen-and-body-bent-appears/ and @dante2086 if I have your permission can I include your pic in above post of mine ?
@zegun Yeah, sorry about that. I actually uploaded four files using the app, didn't know that three failed. But I've uploaded the others.
@ara.armagedon How does it affect my health?
@TheCraig Never put in my back pocket, not even once.
@ImAnurag Feel free to use the pix.
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@ara.armagedon How does it affect my health?
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I was talking about the heat but you can't really trust a phone in that condition, perfectly fine phones sometimes blowup. Fix it ASAP
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ara.armagedon said:
I was talking about the heat but you can't really trust a phone in that condition, perfectly fine phones sometimes blowup. Fix it ASAP
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Yeah, but I think I've adapted to it. As for the phone, the problem is Sony mobile, has poor, if not nearly non-existent representation in Nigeria. Most Sony phones are sold via third party representatives in Nigeria, and I don't think too much of them. If it does get worse though, I might be forced to send it in. As u can see from the pics it's not too severe. And I kept the phone in water for ten minutes today just to verify if it was still waterproof, apparently it still is.
incredible pictures.....
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I don't know exactly how to describe this. But my Xperia Z1 seems slightly bent at one side. The power button side. Look at the pic. Lying on a flat surface. Compare the power button side and the usb side. In honesty, my phone has been recently exposed to a lotta heat. Abuja, Nigeria is really hot. The phone got so hot that day it actually started damaging the carrying pouch. Should I be worried?
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Aluminium!
A metal frame!
change its shape in normal earth temperature !!!
u r kiddin!
even water needs more than 80-90C to change its shape!
but for example aluminium body of XZ1 change because of maybe 60C !! (60C for warmest city on earth!)
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and some users talked about this problem without any reason !!!
no caused phenomena are for quantum world.
in our normal world there s always reason for everything.
and reason of something like this is users misbehaving...
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How in the world!???
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negrobembon said:
How in the world!???
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
Smartass all fo you....
The aluminum frame is fabricated it such a way that IT CAN ACTUALLY BEND ITSELF! If the stress tensor in the alimonum block was highly distorted before the chipping process THE FRAM WILL BENT ITSELF AFTER A WHULE to relive inner materials pressure...
This can defenetly be cause by wrong fabricatimg procedures....
Go atudy your physics before blabbering about physics on xda..!
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
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Hahahahahah I think someone needs to study spelling before typing on xda!!
Lol
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yeah my z1 seems bent too. i've noticed it shortly after getting it. girlfriend thinks i'm crazy but i'm sure. i did put it off as an optical illusion due to the port covers not being 100% parallel to the frame sometimes, but even on a table it wobbles, so it must be bent.
very disconcerting to say the least.
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yeah my z1 seems bent too. i've noticed it shortly after getting it. girlfriend thinks i'm crazy but i'm sure. i did put it off as an optical illusion due to the port covers not being 100% parallel to the frame sometimes, but even on a table it wobbles, so it must be bent.
very disconcerting to say the least.
Hally79 said:
Hahahahahah I think someone needs to study spelling before typing on xda!!
Lol
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No need to be nasty bro.
Not trying to hurt you or offend you but that's quite a hurtful thing to say, a lot of users here don't have english as their first language
Anyway, sorry for going off topic
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They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
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Could be that the battery is swollen due to overcharging, or the aluminium could have bent, melting point doesn't mean that it can be made into a durable metal at lower heat, but i find that unlikely, i'm putting my money on the battery swelling.
nbell13 said:
They sat on it or applied some other force to it. The laws of physics disagree with "it just bent itself." As for heat, the melting point of aluminum is 660 celcius... that's over 1200 degrees Fahrenheit. And that's almost how hot it would have to get to start bending "by itself."
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You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Few people in the world are as careful with their phones as I am. And I definitely don't sit on it. And fabricated aluminium doesn't need to get to it melting point to bend.
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Could be that the battery is swollen due to overcharging, or the aluminium could have bent, melting point doesn't mean that it can be made into a durable metal at lower heat, but i find that unlikely, i'm putting my money on the battery swelling.
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Yeah, I thought so too. It happened to my K700, but that significantly affected my battery life. But since uninstalling CNN app and installing 4.3, my battery life is great.
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dante2086 said:
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Few people in the world are as careful with their phones as I am. And I definitely don't sit on it. And fabricated aluminium doesn't need to get to it melting point to bend.
Yeah, I thought so too. It happened to my K700, but that significantly affected my battery life. But since uninstalling CNN app and installing 4.3, my battery life is great.
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Could still be m8, i've seen batteries swell until they literally broke the devices, i have a device for transferring data from any mobile device to any other mobile device, called celibrite, I like i div had it charging all the time and the battery ended up like a massive blue bag (swollen) it broke the front sim slot and pushed the screws out through their threads, nothing was stopping it, in terms of battery life i have to say when it was disconnected i didn't noticed a drop in battery life either, although it was never unplugged for very long, as for my phone I have it on a timer at night so it never gets more than an hour of overcharge.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingavon-24...TF8&qid=1389723209&sr=8-1&keywords=plug+timer
I see. Well the bending doesn't seem to be getting worse, so if it's a battery swelling, its safe to say it's stopped right?
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hi guys,
i have some doubts about my battery. i think that it is a bit swollen. just to confirm, does your battery flush with the bottom part of your phone (i.e. the antenna part). mine protrudes a little.
thanks
Patlcs said:
hi guys,
i have some doubts about my battery. i think that it is a bit swollen. just to confirm, does your battery flush with the bottom part of your phone (i.e. the antenna part). mine protrudes a little.
thanks
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Here you are some photos of mine, if that can help you to see if yours if defected.
shut_down said:
Here you are some photos of mine, if that can help you to see if yours if defected.
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compared to your photos..,i think that mine is defected...
Patlcs said:
hi guys,
i have some doubts about my battery. i think that it is a bit swollen. just to confirm, does your battery flush with the bottom part of your phone (i.e. the antenna part). mine protrudes a little.
thanks
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to check whether battery is swollen or not remove the battery and put it in a flat surface and check you can find it easily
Patlcs said:
hi guys,
i have some doubts about my battery. i think that it is a bit swollen. just to confirm, does your battery flush with the bottom part of your phone (i.e. the antenna part). mine protrudes a little.
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You should check by putting it on a flat surface as the previous user said.
You can also post pic of your battery here.
zubairamd said:
You should check by putting it on a flat surface as the previous user said.
You can also post pic of your battery here.
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i put the battery on a flat surface and it wobbled... couldn't show it on pictures. i took a photo of my battery in my phone. unfortunately the pictures are blurred as my camera couldn't focus well
here are some more pics
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here are some more pics
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You need to use macro mod when taking picture that close. It is blurry. I think the battery is swallen, from what I see.
If it has swolen to the point where it bothers you a bit you might consider getting a new one as in previous phomes after than comes faster battery drain and random restarts/power off's.
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If it has swolen to the point where it bothers you a bit you might consider getting a new one as in previous phomes after than comes faster battery drain and random restarts/power off's.
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actually i recently faced some random reboots and huge battery drain... i think that i will buy another one
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You need to use macro mod when taking picture that close. It is blurry. I think the battery is swallen, from what I see.
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here are some more pictures... i used macro as you said
Patlcs said:
here are some more pictures... i used macro as you said
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It is bigger in bottom part than normal.
Patlcs said:
actually i recently faced some random reboots and huge battery drain... i think that i will buy another one
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Yes that's common with batteries that have swolen, I myself had a similar issue in the past, good luck mate. :laugh:
If our phone can handle the Galaxy S battery,is it possible to hold the 1650 mAh battery Galaxy SL has?My battery has swollen so I want to buy a new one.If I buy the same model,I'm afraid that it will break too after another year.
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If our phone can handle the Galaxy S battery,is it possible to hold the 1650 mAh battery Galaxy SL has?My battery has swollen so I want to buy a new one.If I buy the same model,I'm afraid that it will break too after another year.
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i tried the i9000 battery and it doesn't fit in the phone...
if it's swollen it's definitely defect, that means it's crystalizing
Guys it has been almost 5 weeks that ive purchased the device and ive been getting slight electric shock from the metal frame when i use it with the shock case when i charge !!! Also the touch and finger print sensor seems to be a bit messed up while charging ..is it any thing serious? And is every body facing this issue?
And its not earthing issue I've tried it with different wall sockets extension chords and everything
What you describe does not make sense. The stock cover covers up the sides pretty well, so how can you touch metal while with cover on?
Also the fingerprint sensor is built into the screen, so are you saying there is shock when you touch the screen? Also very unlikely as glass screen prevents that amount of electricity being passed thru, it wouldn't be enough to shock you.
Better be safe than sorry, you might want to take a video and return the phone.
ive seen a video on youtube from an indian user who was also getting shocks from the phone and eventually it would not switch on anymore so he had to get another one through the warrant. I am looking for the video but i didnt find it yet.
Lol sounds interesting. Would like to see the video.
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What you describe does not make sense. The stock cover covers up the sides pretty well, so how can you touch metal while with cover on?
Also the fingerprint sensor is built into the screen, so are you saying there is shock when you touch the screen? Also very unlikely as glass screen prevents that amount of electricity being passed thru, it wouldn't be enough to shock you.
Better be safe than sorry, you might want to take a video and return the phone.
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I dint mean the sides when its on charge just slightly touch the upper metal portion of the frame!!!most probbaly with out the cover the shock is not noticed cuz a large part of frame is in contact and thus the electricity passes throug!! And i dint mention shock coming out of fingerprint!!! I told the finger print scanner struggles a bit while charging ...not sure if its cuz of any internal shock
Sounds like earthing issue, get local electrician to check your cabling
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Now the device has started hard restarting occasionally
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Now the device has started hard restarting occasionally
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Like I said.....Service centre, return it for warranty...
My device has the same issue please help
I have just bought it from flipkart and i also feel the shock while charging the phone with the included case.
I also tried removing the case and shock was gone so really confused about the situation as everything is shout due to corona outbreak so I can't take it to service center.
So please give me update if it will hard the device or explode the device if I continue to use it
Check earthing wire.
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Sounds like earthing issue, get local electrician to check your cabling
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Check earthing wire.
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Chargers supply DC current through the USB cable. 'Earth' makes no sense in a DC circuit, therefore it cannot be an earthing problem.
Also, virtually all USB chargers have a plastic case and so will invariably have no earth connection. Even if the plug for the charger has an earth pin, the chances are that it is not connected to anything.
I using k20.. during charging I feel vibration(current flow)in metal plat..why?? No earthing problem or charger problem
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Chargers supply DC current through the USB cable. 'Earth' makes no sense in a DC circuit, therefore it cannot be an earthing problem.
Also, virtually all USB chargers have a plastic case and so will invariably have no earth connection. Even if the plug for the charger has an earth pin, the chances are that it is not connected to anything.
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Bro it's about earthing, my house have the same problem, if it happens only while charging I'm sure earthing
addidas_85 said:
Bro it's about earthing, my house have the same problem, if it happens only while charging I'm sure earthing
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The battery in the phone supplies DC current and requires a DC current to charge. The charging brick delivers DC current to charge the battery.
If there is an AC current going to the phone when charging, you'll instantly kill the phone.
Any electric shock perceived when charging is not a result of a residual AC current on the phone case.
It is NOT an earthing problem.
have you replaced ur handset ?
Shubhamk763425 said:
I have just bought it from flipkart and i also feel the shock while charging the phone with the included case.
I also tried removing the case and shock was gone so really confused about the situation as everything is shout due to corona outbreak so I can't take it to service center.
So please give me update if it will hard the device or explode the device if I continue to use it
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please tell me have you replaced your handset , because i also bought yesterday facing same problem please tell me.