According to an article on gmsarena.com the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is likely to get Nougat.
The article mentions that "Note 4 in general is likely to get Nougat, but not before the Galaxy S7s and Note 5"
This makes a lot of sense since the failure of the Note 7.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Hopefully 2nd Quarter of next year.
Here's a link to the article
http://www.gsmarena.com/tmobiles_galaxy_note_4_receives_november_security_update-news-22266.php
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No way!
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Too good to be true?
looking back on all note series and updates before note 4, I can say that nougat will never be available for it
Please small baby Jesus, make this be sure.
It would be a nice investment of the resources that were working on the Note 7 nougat update, and a good appeasement of Note fans, so it probably won't happen
No way the Note 4 will get Nougat, it's Samsung FFS! It would be smart and make sense for them to do it which means they won't lol.
In all seriousness though, if the only reason they are making such a comment that the Note 4 would likely get Nougat just because the T-Mo Note 4's just now got the Nov.1, 2016 security patch is a joke because in Canada we got this security patch back at the end of November which just means nothing more than T-Mo was slow as hell to release this security patch. I fail to see how this small update could make anyone think Nougat will "likely" arrive for our Note 4's.
Every other article that has mentioned the Nougat update states that 2014 flagships will not get 7.0 and I am more likely to believe those reports over this one article that bases it on T-Mo's late release of the Nov.1 security patch lol. I would love to see Nougat on my Note 4, especially after giving up the Note 7 due to Samsung's incompetence but it will never happen (not officially anyway).
Currently samsung wants their customers to purchase new phones, so that they can revover their losses caused by the note 7 fiasco.
Now, if samsung updates the note 4 to nougat, why would note 4 users consider purchasing a new device.
Therefore, even if we were to get nougat update before the note 7 started malfunctioning, it is impossible now.
They want to recover their economy.
Anyways, if the past updates of note lineup are considered, it still says that note 4 wont get a 3rd major software upgrade.
Failing of note wont make any difference, definitely not a positive one.
Therefore, simply dont expect something which is not possible and stop criticising samsung.
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yashthemw said:
Currently samsung wants their customers to purchase new phones, so that they can revover their losses caused by the note 7 fiasco.
Now, if samsung updates the note 4 to nougat, why would note 4 users consider purchasing a new device.
Therefore, even if we were to get nougat update before the note 7 started malfunctioning, it is impossible now.
They want to recover their economy.
Anyways, if the past updates of note lineup are considered, it still says that note 4 wont get a 3rd major software upgrade.
Failing of note wont make any difference, definitely not a positive one.
Therefore, simply dont expect something which is not possible and stop criticising samsung.
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After the disaster of the Note 7. I can understand why Samsung may want to release Nougat for the Note 4. Seeing as the Note 5 is only available in the US and Asia but not Europe. Which leaves their European Note fans without a Note worthy flagship device. It would be a good idea to release Nougat for the Note 4 to restore a bit of user confidence in their company as a way of apologizing for the disaster that was the Note 7. Not that the Note 7 was a bad device, it was just poorly designed.
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After the disaster of the Note 7. I can understand why Samsung may want to release Nougat for the Note 4. Seeing as the Note 5 is only available in the US and Asia but not Europe. Which leaves their European Note fans without a Note worthy flagship device. It would be a good idea to release Nougat for the Note 4 to restore a bit of user confidence in their company as a way of apologizing for the disaster that was the Note 7. Not that the Note 7 was a bad device, it was just poorly designed.
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Note 5 is also available in South America. Here in Brazil for instance. But it's rare to see them, people prefer S7 or note 4 still. Or even S6..
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Note 5 is also available in South America. Here in Brazil for instance. But it's rare to see them, people prefer S7 or note 4 still. Or even S6..
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Thats interesting.... But then again the Samsung's Galaxy Note series of devices were never very popular in the West as they are in Asia.
I m from Serbia(Europe), and here Note4 is last from note series so it will be okay if thay update to Nougate, but if not I going to root and flash with last rom....
I can't see why the Note 4 wouldn't get it.
The Note 4 has all the hardware it needs to run Nougat with excellent performance. Even although it's been a few years since its release, it is still a high-end device.
Besides, Samsung needs to recover some of the confidence everyone lost on it after the Note 7 fiasco.
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I can't see why the Note 4 wouldn't get it.
The Note 4 has all the hardware it needs to run Nougat with excellent performance. Even although it's been a few years since its release, it is still a high-end device.
Besides, Samsung needs to recover some of the confidence everyone lost on it after the Note 7 fiasco.
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Today I just heard about note 8 that it is "about to be released" to recover losses.
So no, I don't have my hopes up.
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eagerly waiging for nougut
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eagerly waiging for nougut
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In your dreams ??
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My first android device was Samsung Galaxy Ace. Which was quite nice until I got to know that it won’t receive upgrades past Gingerbread. So, I bought a Galaxy SII. SII was an amazing phone. A great bump in performance and screen size for me after Galaxy Ace. Also SII had the sweet Ice Cream Sandwich. It also got updated to Jelly Bean (4.1.2). Then I made the switch to Galaxy SIII. Which at the time of my purchase still had the same software 4.1.2. Now, it didn’t feel like a huge upgrade in terms of how my phone looked. Except a couple of add-ons the software was similar. Then a 4.2.2 was leaked around the same time when Google released 4.3 and I updated to it, hoping it would bring some fresh change but it wasn’t much. And it had bugs too. I waited for the bugs to be fixed but then Samsung announced that they are skipping 4.2.2 for SIII and will directly update it to 4.3. I was kind of sad but it was good to know that it was getting updated to 4.3. Though when the actual update came out, this was around the time Google announced KitKat, it was again filled with bugs. Now, that wasn’t a leak that was the official update from Samsung and then they stopped the update temporarily to fix the bugs. They released one more 4.3 update after addressing those bugs from previous one but this one had more. And those never got addressed. Then Samsung announced that the international version of SIII, the one I had, will not receive upgrade to Android 4.4 as 1 GB RAM is not enough to run Samsung customizations smoothly. But the versions with 2GB RAM will receive the updates. Some people appreciated Samsung for actually working on to release an upgrade for a device that was out of the conventional upgrade period. But those people need to evaluate the facts that SIII was the company’s most successful phone. Also when you see the timeline of when the updates were released you realise that every update was released almost around 6 months of announcement from Google.
After being fed up with their update system I made the switch to Nexus 5. Even though I haven’t received any major updates, the vanilla android experience itself has been pretty great. And when I compared it to a GS5 running 4.4, I was even more happy. The time to time lag on S5 when switching between apps or the app opening speed or the lag when opening the recent app menu, they all just make me a little bit happier that I am not a Samsung customer anymore.
I just switched from the Samsung S4 to the N% a few weeks ago.
Even though the screen sizes are the "Same" the N5 has a little less usable space because of the soft keys. The S4 has keys below the screen.
No big deal for me though.
The N5 test slower on AnTuTu and Quadrant than the S4, however the N5 is a ton faster than the S4 on everything that I do, for screen scrooling, to app launching, to web sites loading, everything.
The N5 simply leaves the S4 in the dust.
I'm very impressed so far, and happy about the switch.
I still have the S4 as a backup if needed.
Fred
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I just switched from the Samsung S4 to the N% a few weeks ago.
Even though the screen sizes are the "Same" the N5 has a little less usable space because of the soft keys. The S4 has keys below the screen.
No big deal for me though.
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Benchmarks don't come into play. they sure as hell don't prove the speed and performance we get on nexus.
about those soft-keys. this what I recently did.
installed LMT
disabled navigation bar
I am running stock on ART. so no xposed module for me
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Benchmarks don't come into play. they sure as hell don't prove the speed and performance we get on nexus.
about those soft-keys. this what I recently did.
installed LMT
disabled navigation bar
I am running stock on ART. so no xposed module for me
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What's LMT?
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What's LMT?
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
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Fred98TJ said:
I just switched from the Samsung S4 to the N% a few weeks ago.
Even though the screen sizes are the "Same" the N5 has a little less usable space because of the soft keys. The S4 has keys below the screen.
No big deal for me though.
The N5 test slower on AnTuTu and Quadrant than the S4, however the N5 is a ton faster than the S4 on everything that I do, for screen scrooling, to app launching, to web sites loading, everything.
The N5 simply leaves the S4 in the dust.
I'm very impressed so far, and happy about the switch.
I still have the S4 as a backup if needed.
Fred
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there is no way a snapdragon 600 can beat a snapdragon 800 in any benchmark
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there is no way a snapdragon 600 can beat a snapdragon 800 in any benchmark
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samsung devices come with custom dalvik/bionic by default, the nexus does not. becuse it includes a custom dalvik/bionic it scores better. thats why many rooted nexus 5 users flash different dalviks/bionics. the sgs4 can not beat a nexus running custom dalvik/bionic as well.
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what if you wanted to switch two years ago? you'd still be with Samsung
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there is no way a snapdragon 600 can beat a snapdragon 800 in any benchmark
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The S4 does score better than a non-rooted N5.
"samsung devices come with custom dalvik/bionic by default, the nexus does not. becuse it includes a custom dalvik/bionic it scores better."
HOWEVER, in real world use my N5 runs circles around my S4.
Fred
Fred98TJ said:
The S4 does score better than a non-rooted N5.
"samsung devices come with custom dalvik/bionic by default, the nexus does not. becuse it includes a custom dalvik/bionic it scores better."
HOWEVER, in real world use my N5 runs circles around my S4.
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circles isnt even the right word. my n5 plays in a professional league while my s4 is still TRYING to get onto a minor league team.
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Hello everyone
I have written a new blog post about my experience with samsung and why I switched from it. Have a look and feel free to comment and share your experience
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Why couldn't you post your thoughts here? You make people click your link instead.
Another useless post.
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Another useless post.
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Ironic because you made a useless comment.
On topic: Yeah, I switched from an S3 and was extremely happy. I used to really enjoy touch wiz because of a couple of features but the sluggishness of the phone was getting on my nervous. I flashed a stable built of CM, which wasn't great because that had some pretty serious bugs which annoyed me also. Then the N5 came out and I decided to buy and I am very happy with the experience.
I like nexus 5 but I'm dying to go back to Samsung but i know if i get the galaxy s5 I'll be dying to get back my nexus 5
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My fiance and I also just ditched Verizon and switched to n5's from s4's. Couldn't be happier. I love Verizon's network but they are overpriced and lock everything down. We are in stl so T-Mobile works just as well.
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Hello everyone
I have written a new blog post about my experience with samsung and why I switched from it. Have a look and feel free to comment and share your experience
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Nice post, I think it sums up a lot of users' feelings too. I've never owned a Samsung phone - I started with nexus and have only used nexus since and i couldn't be happier. Between getting major updates first and the rich development community, you have very little limitations with these phones. I just hope that if Google kills the nexus line like they're rumored to, that they still deliver the same experience with future GPE devices (currently, GPE devices are not on par with the nexus line in my opinion).
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Speaking as a former Galaxy S3 T-Mobile owner, I had to stay that Knox software and bootloader locking is what finally made me give up on the Galaxy series. The Nexus 5 on my opinion is a developer phone and a guideline of what other companies should follow. I'd rather not pay to own hardware that doesn't let me use it in the way I want. Plus no matter how you looked at it TouchWiz was insanely slow because of all the extra features, some of which most people would never use.
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Why couldn't you post your thoughts here? You make people click your link instead.
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Changed that now.
ARTvsDalvik
Next post, both here and on my blog will be ARTvsDalvik. And not just in terms of speed.
I appreciate your positive feedback for this device but there is no necessity for a user review of a device which is almost 6 months old. Thread closed
I just found this article on Master Herald:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned as Company Readjusts Plans around Gear VR
Initial reports about the Gear VR claimed that Samsung are planning to put a lot of focus on the device, but it wasn’t until recently that the picture started to really clear up. It seems that the company really is moving forward very actively with the Gear VR, but at the same time, sadly, some of their current users will have to suffer a little bit. Recent rumors indicated that the Android 5.0 Lollipop update is coming closer for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but there have now been reports that the update has been pushed back a little further.
According to the most recent updates, the new Galaxy Note 4 ROM has been handed over to a team that’s working to ensure the device will have full compatibility with Samsung’s Gear VR. Considering the Note 4 is one of the very few devices that will (reportedly) support the Gear VR, it’s no wonder that Samsung are trying so hard to make sure that this compatibility works flawlessly.
The Gear VR is Samsung’s own take on the Virtual Reality concept, although they’re approaching the problem from a different direction. Instead of selling a complete device including an internal screen for the goggles, the Gear VR is meant to be used with Samsung’s other devices. The user would attach, for example, the Galaxy Note 4, and would then use the Gear VR as a normal VR headset, using the screen of the device.
It’s not known how much different this technology will be from the Oculus Rift in terms of performance, and there has been some skepticism aimed at it due to the fact that it relies on one screen instead of two. Still, Samsung seem to know what they’re doing, as they’ve been putting more and more effort into promoting and developing the Gear VR further, so it will be curious to see where they end up with this device. Even if it doesn’t break any solid grounds on the VR market, it still has the potential to set interesting new trends for it, and at least push it forward to some extent. So far, its performance has been acceptable, although those who’ve tried it seem to be left with mixed opinions.
Other devices that are going to get the Android 5.0 Lollipop update include the Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy S5 mini, and Galaxy S4. Exact release dates for the new firmware version are not known, but it’s expected that Samsung will prioritize the devices according to their compatibility with the Gear VR. This could potentially indicate which devices Samsung is planning to make compatible with the headset in the future, too.
F%$& Gear VR, I want Lollipop nao =(
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Nice find OP...why the actual **** would we care about gearVR ffs, they'll probably release lollipop for the note 2 soon and note 4 users will still be waiting because of their stupid "virtual reality" ****...
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
oscar fernando said:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
samsung galaxy note 4 gets android 5.0 lollipop update in russia
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is this real and can we flash this in the uk??!
I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
Well Samsung is making a very bad impression on people who picked up the Note 4 as their first Samsung device. I love the device itself but the TW interface and constant lag on a device this powerful is embarrassing. It worries me that instead of focusing on making TW better for the Lollipop update they are goofing around with compatibility for a $200 piece of plastic that won't even work unless you have a specific device with a specific version of OS installed. Maybe I'm being unfair but I also own a Gear Neo 2 which can't be used on any other phone. See like the Gear VR it can't be used on my Note 4 unless I have a specific version of OS installed. This makes the device extremely limited. It's nice they are making sure the VR is going to work for the few hundred people who have a Gear VR, but for the thousands who don't it isn't a very good excuse for taking 3 months to push out one update. Loving the Note 4 device but not loving TW or the limited customization. This doesn't turn me off android devices at all. Just turning me off from investing in another Samsung product.
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I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
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I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
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Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
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Looks like they were supposed to say the S4 and not the Note 4.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_getting_lollipop_in_russia-news-11008.php
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/30...500-is-getting-the-lollipop-update-in-russia/
well got this last night for what its worth...
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Hm do you reckon they're telling the truth or just bull****ting again to shut us up? If this is true it could be available by Monday
well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I too believe in Samsung as much as God........ not at all.
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How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
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Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
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We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
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Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
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Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
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What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
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I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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I've tried the unofficial CM ROM and the battery issues caused me too many problems. Its nearly there but not enough for me as a daily driver. One day I lost 50% battery in 2 hours lol and phone was hot as hell.
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well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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A good ole bloody cheers to that!
Waiting for the Gear VR to play catch-up is worth it I think.
The Occulus team and the Samsung people have some time to begin to learn how to work with each other and exchange code, and we get to wait a little longer to find out if Lollipop is truly ready for this anyway.
As it is, the way things were going, I was going to manually skip this update.
I love my stock experience (touch wiz notwithstanding) and I can't stand the hoardes that show up to learn how to 're-install KK 'cause the battery's no good anymore and what's up with the notifications....?'
Happened with Ice-Cream (lord help those still devoutly on Gingerbread), happened with Jelly Bean (you'd have thought KK was treading ground Vista there at the beginning) and, mark my words, will happen - with a vengeance - with Lollipop.
I can wait for the last man standing.
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Hey guys is there anybody out there that's working or could work on Google's pure 4.4.4 version of KitKat for our note 4? There are a lot of rooted apps & games that are not supported in 5.0 lollipop & I also want to enjoy my 3GB of ram without installing a custom Samsung based rom that takes up almost 2 gigs of it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Same here I need a cm11 or a 4.4.4 rom that's cm11 based
I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
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I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
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Yeah that's true but I don't know any developers on here lol plus I don't know any that's willing to work on one knowing everybody is going crazy about the 5.0 lollipop update
I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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Yeah that's sadly true. But it won't hurt to ask.....even tho I might 99 replies in "no" but I might get one yes & hopefully that matters
Lollipop, Nexus 6, Experia 3Z
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I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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I be honest I will be staying on nk4 when lollipop drops.
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Yeah...that was the gist of what I wrote. LOL
The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
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It beyond me why they would make a phone without an SD card slot. Wtf.
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Honestly, i wouldnt mind a CM11 rom. I really loved the stock 4.4.4 that came the with Nexus 5, smooth and bare.
But another point is, development doesnt go backwards (usually, anyway).
I would love it, but it wont be done .
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@slayher wink wink.
Pay the man, maybe he'll port.
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Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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Thank you. Any help is appreciated
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Lmao, I'm stealing that btw
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??
I'm sticking with my Note 8 order: The S-Pen and screen size are clinchers for me.
But following today's Apple event and for the first time in five or six years, I can foresee a day I'll go back to iPhones.
The X looks pretty damn special. Anyone tempted?
Nope.
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Nope.
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Ha! No hesitation - you're clearly made of sterner stuff than me
Its not out for 2 months. I will have already gone through the Note 8, V30, Pixel 2 and Mate 10 by then.....
But it does look great.... Doesn't really do anything the Note doesn't do, perhaps more elegantly in some parts, and the same on others... But that is always Apple. Except the stereo speakers. I had that on the iphone 76 plus and its really a nice thing to have...
Not happening...
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I'm sticking with my Note 8 order: The S-Pen and screen size are clinchers for me.
But following today's Apple event and for the first time in five or six years, I can foresee a day I'll go back to iPhones.
The X looks pretty damn special. Anyone tempted?
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Dat wireless charger and facial recognition doe!! <---sarcasm. Features that Samsung already has.
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Very disappointed with the look of the iPhone 8 and 8+. Why you anyone buy one? Look like the iPhone 7.
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Haha!
Ok turns out I asked this question on the wrong forum...
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Very disappointed with the look of the iPhone 8 and 8+. Why you anyone buy one? Look like the iPhone 7.
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Agree the iPhone 8 is boring. Same old.
Its the X that intrigues me.
I'm very tempted where it not for the long wait.
Apple just does everything that much better then everyone else.
Love the ui and speakers. 2 things which annoy me the most about samsung, poor speakers and laggy ui.
That edge to edge design kills note 8 design.
The first time apple have impressed me with their iphone x.
With me it is about the ecosystem first, then hardware second.
I can't get with the Apple's closed ecosystem. So Android is my ecosystem.
That said I really like Apple's Face ID and what goes with it. Apple did that right. And the software for the cameras is really nice. That iWatch 3 is really sweet too.
I hope that Samsung, LG, and Google learns from Apple with these. I would love to see these technologies and improvements in the near future in Android devices like Samsung Galaxy Note 9, LG V40 and Android watches in 2018.
The screen on the iPhone X looks just like a couple of Android flagship phones in 2017. So that is not exclusive to iPhone X only. But I like Samsung to take Galaxy Note 9 to that next level. Afterall Samsung made iPhone X screens.
iPhone X just gives me excited to see what Android manufacturers will do in 2018.
Looks like 2017 is Apple's tick and Samsung's tock. 2018 will most likely be Samsung's tick and Apple's tock cycle
This year I was looking into LG V30 and Samsung Galaxy Note 8. Since I was a Galaxy Note 7 user I chose Galaxy Note 8 this year. But that was a tough decision. LG V30 camera software, true wide-angle lense, and good audio quality made LG V30 very attempting.
Nothing revolutionary just an apple branded s8+. Only good thing is better facial recognition and dual speakers?
The notch up top is gonna be awful in landscape while gaming and watching movies.
n8 display has no notch and more screen estate. whats happens when your drop the phone and and crack the facial camera ? expensive repairs and no way unlock unless password.
I like having the fingerprint sensor as a fail safe as well as sd card support and 3.5mm headphone jack
The reason I dished out $1,468 (CAD after taxes) was entirely to have that glorious S-Pen again.
The iPhone X runs at $1,484 here, taxes in, and although the design is intriguing, it won't be enough for me to jump into iOS and ditch the S-Pen that I've been missing for what feels like an eternity.
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I hope that Samsung, LG, and Google learns from Apple with these. I would love to see these technologies and improvements in the near future in Android devices
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iPhone X just gives me excited to see what Android manufacturers will do in 2018.
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Exactly this.
I caught myself hoping the iPhone X would be a disappointment. Another boring, derivative design. But in coming up with an exciting, beautiful phone, they're simulating the competition.
Will have wait and see what kind of sales Verizon or Best Buy are going to have before Christmas. Best Buys' $150 Note 8 sale plus $480 trade in Verizon gave me for my LG G6, it was too hard to pass up on the deal. So far, the Note 8 is probably the best phone I have ever owned.
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Exactly this.
I caught myself hoping the iPhone X would be a disappointment. Another boring, derivative design. But in coming up with an exciting, beautiful phone, they're simulating the competition.
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The Tick Tock Cycle.
The tick part of the cycle is about new technologies and new styles.
The tock part of the the cycle is about refining the technologies and styles.
Last year Apple was in the tock cycle and Samsung was in the tick cycle (until the Note 7 battery issues).
This year Apple is in the tick cycle and Samsung is in the tock cycle.
Next year looks like Apple will be in the tock cycle and Samsung will be in the tick cycle.
Truth to be told. Both platforms get the same technologies sooner or later.
What is really important is the ecosystems. That is where one should make decision between iOS vs Android. Then make decision of hardware within that chosen platform.
Nope.
I never buy first gen Apple products. I made that mistake with the original iPhone.
Will wait and see what the next iteration looks like before I would even consider it.
I left that eco system 8 years ago and I'm NEVER going back.
No, might have thought about it if they would have made a smaller Apple pencil that would work with it but they didn't so I won't give up my note 8 because of the spen. To me the spen separates the Note 8 from all other flagship phones..
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the new what? Iphone what?
lol.....
No i am an android man. I only wanted the first iphone. Couldnt get it and ended up with a HTC G1 (the dream). And with android i stay. And move to samsung and say with them.
Also note that samsung makes the lcd that is in the new iphone. Idk why they would do that, but i guess its a money thing. Even tho apple has sue them before for other stuff.
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lol... There talking so much about face id unlock and we been having Iris unlock since the note 7 hahahhah.
apple people.
Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!
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Samsung said that all flagships after and including the S10 will get 3 years of Android OS updates. It's a bit unfair for us Note9 and S9 users so I created a petition to Samsung asking them to reconsider adding the S9, S9+ and Note9 to the 3 year major updates support program as well. Here's the link: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-give-android-11-oneui-3-0-to-galaxy-note9-s9-phones
The more people that sign it the better chance we have of Samsung acknowledging it!
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The petition won't do anything. I truly hate being that person but there's no way in this world or the next that a petition on xda will make Samsung ad an older device to their new statement. It's not smart for their business, gives them no real benefits or anything. You gotta realize they aren't thinking of the handful of us who still hold onto the 9 series of phones whether it be S or Note... Their business is to sell new electronics not to keep old ones on life support that they keep recharging every so often.
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The petition won't do anything. I truly hate being that person but there's no way in this world or the next that a petition on xda will make Samsung ad an older device to their new statement. It's not smart for their business, gives them no real benefits or anything. You gotta realize they aren't thinking of the handful of us who still hold onto the 9 series of phones whether it be S or Note... Their business is to sell new electronics not to keep old ones on life support that they keep recharging every so often.
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Don't worry, I know we 99.9% won't get it. Just decided to explore how this works and made it as another xda user requested it. I'm ok with 2.5 as I just want wireless DeX - other stuff is a bonus that's in 2.5.
Please stop. Please.
I feel like a petition might work for an iPhone, because, well, you either have an iPhone or a thousand variants of an Android phone. Having one of two out of those thousand variants doesn't amass to a whole lot of people, certainly not enough for Samsung to actually do something about it. Good luck, though. I did sign it. But again, it's more than likely a lost cause. The three year deal didn't start until AFTER the Note9.
Feels like we need to have this same conversation once every smartphone generation. Recap:
Breathing life into old electronics is not good business. Samsung is a business, they're in it for the money. Introducing new features for old phones will not sell new hardware; if anything, it will cause Samsung to sell less new hardware. Less sales means less revenue. That's why it's bad for business.
Developing software for additional platforms consumes more resources; resources which could be used for advancing development of newer hardware, and better software for said newer hardware. Again, why waste resources into something that will cause you to sell fewer next-gen phones?
Let me reiterate. Samsung is a business. They will not make poor business decisions to benefit users who hang on to old hardware instead of buying new hardware. End of story.
@oddbehreif As I said before I don't have much hope but seeing how the S10s got 3 years support and the Note10 Lite is THE SAME PHONE as the Note9 and will get Android 11 I decided to make this. I'll be perfectly happy with OneUI 2.5 as I'll get wireless DeX then but it's fun to see how change.org works and to spam the link on every Samsung or smartphone tech video and watch the numbers rise.
It will not working.
one UI 2.5 will be updated! Android 11 is not possible!
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one UI 2.5 will be updated! Android 11 is not possible!
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Android 11 is not possible!
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Android 11 is not possible!
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Android 11 may be unlikely to be provided to Note 9 by Samsung, I am not sure your statement that it's not possible (technically ?) is correct.
I may have misunderstood the context of your post.
My understanding is Samsung have indicated it will be providing Android 11 to all Note 10 / S10 and later, I believe one of these included phones has essentially the same hardware so obviously possible.
Finally I believe Note 9 is project Treble compatible / compliant so this would indicate it's technically possible and not as difficult as pre -Treble phones to be provided future Android updates
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Finally I believe Note 9 is project Treble compatible / compliant so this would indicate it's technically possible and not as difficult as pre -Treble phones to be provided future Android updates
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This is why they should give it to us as well.
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Android 11 may be unlikely to be provided to Note 9 by Samsung, I am not sure your statement that it's not possible (technically ?) is correct.
I wish that our N9 became the Android11 version;imagine,with a new battery and an aktual system we can use this rely good,amazing phone for more then 2-3 years.I`m using this phone now for 1.5 years;at first with Android 8 than 9 and now 10.It should be possible to get 11!!
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Dude, we already have Treble support on this. When the new GSI drops, just install that.
I've seen many of these petitions and none worked.
We will just hope that some dev will port the SM-N770F update to the SM-N960F/G96xF family
Android 11 update now rolling out to Galaxy Note 10 Lite
The One UI 3.0 update based on Android 11 is now rolling out to select Galaxy Note 10 Lite units. ...
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I dont wanna spark any hope in sight, but, either this is typical Samsung negligence from their side, or they mistakenly took this upon.
They have an app called GPU Watch, which is pretty much a FPS Real Time counter for people who game.
If you head in their app's website, there's a table showing support for the app's version and SDK. Weirdly, Note9/S9 are on the Android R list as well.
Here's a screenshot:
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