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Has anyone attempted to put a Verizon sim in an at&t model?
On the teardown it says it has the radio.
Needs to be SIM unlocked from ATT from what I gather. Chances are pretty low that A. ATT let very many buy one without an ATT account at retail B. They would unlock it to be used on a rival.
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Has anyone attempted to put a Verizon sim in an at&t model?
On the teardown it says it has the radio.
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NO wont work.... Verizon is CDMA AT&T is GSM.
The ONLY reason Verizon has sim cards is for LTE.... It absolutely WONT work lol.
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jmill75 said:
Needs to be SIM unlocked from ATT from what I gather. Chances are pretty low that A. ATT let very many buy one without an ATT account at retail B. They would unlock it to be used on a rival.
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Verizon is a CDMA carrier, The ONLY reason they use sim cards is for the LTE network. So it doesnt matter if the phone is unlocked or not..
hyelton said:
NO wont work.... Verizon is CDMA AT&T is GSM.
The ONLY reason Verizon has sim cards is for LTE.... It absolutely WONT work lol.
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Verizon is a CDMA carrier, The ONLY reason they use sim cards is for the LTE network. So it doesnt matter if the phone is unlocked or not..
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The Teardown shows a GSM and CDMA radio. The LTE SIM is used even on Verizon to identify the device on the network.
chroot said:
The Teardown shows a GSM and CDMA radio. The LTE SIM is used even on Verizon to identify the device on the network.
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Believe me or not, ITS NOT going to work... The phone does not have a CDMA radio, if it did its very pointless as it would only apply to countries like India.
CDMA Carriers like Verizon,Sprint, and U.S.Cellular ONLY ALLOW THERE DEVICES to be used on there network and nothing else.
Its just simply NOT going to work.
IF you look on the back of the AT&T Model do you see an ESN?? No you dont you will only see an IMEI which means it does NOT have a cdma radio in it.
QUOTE=hyelton;44948926]Believe me or not, ITS NOT going to work... The phone does not have a CDMA radio, if it did its very pointless as it would only apply to countries like India.
CDMA Carriers like Verizon,Sprint, and U.S.Cellular ONLY ALLOW THERE DEVICES to be used on there network and nothing else.
Its just simply NOT going to work
IF you look on the back of the AT&T Model do you see an ESN?? No you dont you will only see an IMEI which means it does NOT have a cdma radio in it.[/QUOTE]
Good info at i fix it said it does. I assume software locked
Didn't mean to incur the wrath of all caps.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Moto+X+Teardown/16867/1
The Wrath of all caps! Haha
Anyway Its NOT software locked. Its a limitation as the Verizon Network is NOT gsm. Software or not its not at all possible to use any non verizon phone on the Verizon Network.
Just wanted to thank everyone who took time to comment on this. It was a great help. Sadly I had to move to a Samsung Galaxy 4.
I cry a little on the inside every time I say "Ok Google Now" and it looks at me with that blank stare....
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Hi all. If I purchase one of Moto X Sprint, ATT, Verizon
version, can I use it on our Europe network regarding
SIM lock?
Sorry I'm rookie about Moto X, I use so far other Moto Droid2 and Droid4 only.
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
sleepyguy007 said:
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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New device, cheaper than the other, why.....?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SEALE...1010755429?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43c197bb65
Please help. I'm purchase Sprint Motorola Moto X and need to activate it and make sim unlock.
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Where do you order? And how much?
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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Ive heard the only way is to be a sprint customer for 90 days and ask customer service.
Moto x
Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Star Shadow, you got 4G working on it?
sleepyguy007 said:
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
suttaroom said:
So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
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yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
And how about 4G?
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Moto X in Egypt
sleepyguy007 said:
yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
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I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
kkhadr said:
I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
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And do you have 4G network in Egypt? Does it work?
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Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
ktan-18 said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
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Surely you just check the bands on the network your trying to use it on. Look up your networks bands.
I checked before I bought, 2100 is supported by the phone and I'm using 2100 without issue.
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Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
So essentially i can put the GSM sim card into a Verizon Moto X and it should work .If not are there any online unlock sites available?
Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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Ped_ro said:
Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
kolyan said:
Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
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First of all, thanks for answering
Then, don't you think that the developer edition (GSM) could be a good option? For what I heard, with that I should be only missing the 4G network, wich would be unavaible anyway, wichever brand I choose..
Or am I wrong?
The other plus il that I wouldn't lose the warranty in case of modding..!
I am wondering if my Sprint LG G4 model LGLS991 will work with Verizon or any other carriers if I unlock the phone?
Wondering the same unlocked mine already.
MetalMan889 said:
I am wondering if my Sprint LG G4 model LGLS991 will work with Verizon or any other carriers if I unlock the phone?
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It will never work, Verzion will never activate a sprint phone and sprint will never activate a verzion phone. Radio's, compatiblity -- none of that matters. Phones are tied to specific carriers (CDMA only) when they are sold and there's nothing we can do to change that.
I guess that answers my question. But I have seen people saying they have used a sprint phone on verizon.
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
pickneters said:
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
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If you get it unlocked (by sprint), then it'll work on any GSM carrier outside of United States. Even after its unlocked, it'll not work on Domestic GSM carriers.
Because of the frequencies? There are two types of unlocks domestic and international. Mine is unlocked on both.
Sprint will not do a domestic unlock, unless you have access to their back end system that handles unlocks. (even then I don't think its possible). Have you actually tried using an AT&T or TMobile (US Only) sims in your sprint phone? Even if you have the appropriate radio, the carrier lock will prevent it from working on any domestic network.
I know this from a very reliable source inside sprint.
The most sprint will do for you is unlock it for international use granted you are current on your bill and your account is in good standing.
If you own the phone outright they will unlock for domestic use. New law went into effect in February, also wife works for sprint. It was an annoying process but I finally found someone who knew what they were doing. Yes an at&t sim works in the phone.
What about using a sprint phone on Boost or Virgin? Or possibly using a donor phone as was done before laws changed then changed again?
WOW...
chirayu said:
It will never work, Verzion will never activate a sprint phone and sprint will never activate a verzion phone. Radio's, compatiblity -- none of that matters. Phones are tied to specific carriers (CDMA only) when they are sold and there's nothing we can do to change that.
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Hate to bust your bubble...but it totally depends on the phone. Lol...Nexus 6 works on Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, ATT, TMobile...u name it it works. and the sweet thing is the US Cellular version comes unlocked. I put every active sim card in it I have and worked just fine, calls texts LTE. Thanks for the info tho.
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MetalMan889 said:
I guess that answers my question. But I have seen people saying they have used a sprint phone on verizon.
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Sprint Nexus 6 works on Verizon. Its already unlocked... All u gotta do is put your active verizon sim in it.
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pickneters said:
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
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Sprint Nexus 6 works on Verizon. I really wish folks would research before using the words,,, NO or Never. Totally untrue. Just depends on the phone pickneters....
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chirayu said:
Sprint will not do a domestic unlock, unless you have access to their back end system that handles unlocks. (even then I don't think its possible). Have you actually tried using an AT&T or TMobile (US Only) sims in your sprint phone? Even if you have the appropriate radio, the carrier lock will prevent it from working on any domestic network.
I know this from a very reliable source inside sprint.
The most sprint will do for you is unlock it for international use granted you are current on your bill and your account is in good standing.
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You are feeding wrong info to this thread as well. Yes, it will work. Sprint just makes it a hassle to unlock (DSU)....
sd_N said:
Hate to bust your bubble...but it totally depends on the phone. Lol...Nexus 6 works on Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, ATT, TMobile...u name it it works. and the sweet thing is the US Cellular version comes unlocked. I put every active sim card in it I have and worked just fine, calls texts LTE. Thanks for the info tho.
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Nexus 6 is factory unlocked, do some research before you go bursting bubbles.
You are feeding wrong info to this thread as well. Yes, it will work. Sprint just makes it a hassle to unlock (DSU)....
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So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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For those that are still curious go here
http://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock
and here's what you can take away from DSU.
"For inactive devices, customers must contact Sprint Customer Care to request that their DSU-capable device be unlocked and may have to take steps to perform an over-the-air update to ensure the unlock programming has been relayed to the device. Additional validation may be required to ensure eligibility.
Sprint makes no guaranty that an unlocked device will work on another carrier's network. Whether another carrier will accept and activate a device is subject to that carrier's policies and capabilities. Additionally, Sprint devices which the owner has attempted to reprogram or activate on another carrier's network or otherwise altered from its initial programming or settings may not be able to be reactivated on the Sprint network."
So to clarify, even if sprint unlocks your tray, it is more than likely that Verzion WILL NOT activate a sprint phone on their network.
chirayu said:
So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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With LTE phones, you don't have to activate anything if you have an active SIM card. Of course, it needs to be unlocked to work on different carriers. My VZW G3 works on Sprint just by popping in a Sprint SIM.
Not true
chirayu said:
Nexus 6 is factory unlocked, do some research before you go bursting bubbles.
So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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For those that are still curious go here
http://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock
and here's what you can take away from DSU.
"For inactive devices, customers must contact Sprint Customer Care to request that their DSU-capable device be unlocked and may have to take steps to perform an over-the-air update to ensure the unlock programming has been relayed to the device. Additional validation may be required to ensure eligibility.
Sprint makes no guaranty that an unlocked device will work on another carrier's network. Whether another carrier will accept and activate a device is subject to that carrier's policies and capabilities. Additionally, Sprint devices which the owner has attempted to reprogram or activate on another carrier's network or otherwise altered from its initial programming or settings may not be able to be reactivated on the Sprint network."
So to clarify, even if sprint unlocks your tray, it is more than likely that Verzion WILL NOT activate a sprint phone on their network.
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AT&T Nexus 6 isnt factory unlocked. Lol
Now I remember why I stopped coming to xda.
It's simple: It will never work on another CDMA carrier. Only a select few will work on a domestic GSM carrier; if you have a carrier version that is "unlocked", it will not work on another carrier. It could possible work on Boost or Virgin, since they use Sprint, but YMMV
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
Does anyone have any comment on this?
Ok my opinion I guess is better the unlock firmware because tmobile have a lot of bloatware so ... let see what other said about it .
I'm current have a tmobile note 8 and Thinking if is possible flash via Odin the unlock firmware
I would keep to motto "Don't fix it if it ain't broken". Does wifi calling works? do you use it? Hows the reception compared to previous phone? Anything else missing/ don't work like visual voice, if you even use it?
On the other hand, personally I don't see much T-mo bloat on my phone either, so probably doesn't matter much which FW you have .
Is the T-Mobile phone the same as the Unlocked? I thought the T-Mobile version was GSM only and the Unlocked would be GSM and CDMA.
Also should be able to flash just the missing parts instead of whole rom. Check the AT&T threads, some info in there.
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Since at least Galaxy S7? all US hardware is the same and the main reason we have Qualcom is that damn CDMA, otherwise it would be Exynos. Of course you need proper software to unlock right frequencies and protocols. I do not know if T-mo software has CDMA protocols, but OP is on T-mo so it's irrelevant.
pete4k said:
Since at least Galaxy S7? all US hardware is the same and the main reason we have Qualcom is that damn CDMA, otherwise it would be Exynos. Of course you need proper software to unlock right frequencies and protocols. I do not know if T-mo software has CDMA protocols, but OP is on T-mo so it's irrelevant.
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Wow, is that really true about CDMA and Qualcomm? Not doubting you but I wasn't aware.
Not much evident bloatware on the T Mobile version. Just a few silly apps I disabled.
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okrk said:
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
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1/2. Don't need to, doesn't gain you any benefit. TMO puts their apps (e.g., Visual Voicemail) in Play.
3. Yes, but Samsung may not care.
4. Check the XDA news, Chainfire set up a site for this.
okrk said:
I just bought the unlocked Note 8 from best buy (N950U1WEW1AQH9). It is working fine on tmoble but i am not sure if it would work better if it had the Tmo rom.
I see from other threads that i can download and flash the Tmo rom from Sammobile.
The questions i have is:
1- Should i do this to get all the Tmobile benefits?
2- If i should, do i need root?
3- Will it void warranty?
4- How do i go back to original N950U1WEW1AQH9 if i flash Tmo Rom? (In other words - Where is best place to get original N950U1WEW1AQH9)
Thanks
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1. Devices are the same so trying out the T-Mobile firmware to see if you prefer it over the unlocked firmware is fine.
2. Root not needed to flash firmware.
3. Will not void warranty.
4. To go back to stock follow this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...covery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615/page22
I have flashed two different Sprint versions on my unlocked and have flashed back to Stock XAA unlocked, I like the download booster, and have not triggered Knox warranty flag. Choosing carrier firmware over unlocked firmware is personal preference, the best way to decide is to flash and try...just follow the guide...
Note:
*use regular Odin to flash from unlocked to carrier
*use Prince Comsy's Odin to flash from carrier to Stock unlocked XAA or carrier version of Stock unlocked (only the csc is different)
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bpleat said:
1/2. Don't need to, doesn't gain you any benefit. TMO puts their apps (e.g., Visual Voicemail) in Play.
3. Yes, but Samsung may not care.
4. Check the XDA news, Chainfire set up a site for this.
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Waranty is not voided by flashing firmware, you are mistaken...only after custom like recovery and some rooting methods.
Chainfire is still working on cfauto root for our device. It will be awesome once it is uploaded to the website.
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Limeybastard said:
Wow, is that really true about CDMA and Qualcomm? Not doubting you but I wasn't aware.
Not much evident bloatware on the T Mobile version. Just a few silly apps I disabled.
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T-Mobile is not cdma
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nuclearrage said:
Is the T-Mobile phone the same as the Unlocked? I thought the T-Mobile version was GSM only and the Unlocked would be GSM and CDMA.
Also should be able to flash just the missing parts instead of whole rom. Check the AT&T threads, some info in there.
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All Note 8's have same hardware except FDD bands used in Asian markets...these are not available on the unlocked version...for the U.S., hardware is identical for branded and unlocked versions...in other words, once unlocked by carrier, the T-Mobile version could be used on Sprint or Verizon or be used on ATT...
With T Mobile and CDMA I was referring to the USA Snapdragon devices in relation to why we don't get Exynos.
Someone mentioned that it's due to the use of CDMA technology that for example Verizon uses , is the reason we don't get official Exynos. Since Exynos is not CDMA compatible.
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BlueFox721 said:
All Note 8's have same hardware except FDD bands used in Asian markets...these are not available on the unlocked version...for the U.S., hardware is identical for branded and unlocked versions...in other words, once unlocked by carrier, the T-Mobile version could be used on Sprint or Verizon or be used on ATT...
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I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
Kalm_Traveler said:
I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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Yes the U.S. models is what I meant for the snaps...not exynos...guess I could have specified that...lol
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Limeybastard said:
With T Mobile and CDMA I was referring to the USA Snapdragon devices in relation to why we don't get Exynos.
Someone mentioned that it's due to the use of CDMA technology that for example Verizon uses , is the reason we don't get official Exynos. Since Exynos is not CDMA compatible.
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Right... the exynos supposedly had compatibility issues with cdma technologies even though some state that it was compatible before...I think cdma is being phased out eventually...just an opinion though
Kalm_Traveler said:
I think you meant that all North American Note 8's have the same hardware. Outside of North America and I think China, they are Exynos not Snapdragon CPUs.
As mentioned by others, the reason we got a Snapdragon version here is because their SoC has a built-in CDMA modem, and we have 2 main players still on CDMA in the USA, Verizon and Sprint. With the old Note 5 everyone got Exynos but they included a CDMA modem for at least the Verizon/Sprint models (not sure if the others had it). For the Note 8 I guess they decided not to try that again.
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Thanks for the clarification, appreciate it. I dont think thr UK got the note 5. But thats probably just a marketing thing with Samsung.
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Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
BlueFox721 said:
Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
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So in essence, the cuprits are Sprint and Verizon.[emoji38]
It should get interesting should T Mobile merge with Sprint. They'll probably dismantle the CDMA network leaving Verizon with the nonly obsolete network in NA
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Limeybastard said:
So in essence, the cuprits are Sprint and Verizon.[emoji38]
It should get interesting should T Mobile merge with Sprint. They'll probably dismantle the CDMA network leaving Verizon with the nonly obsolete network in NA
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That's what I was thinking
BlueFox721 said:
Licensing issues prevent cdma on exynos...according to this article
https://www.google.com/amp/www.andr...ng-selling-exynos-chips-companies-759678/amp/
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That stuff is deep.
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Hello,
I am planning to buy AT&T version of Note 9 from craigslist (since they are cheaper due to AT&T BOGO). I am planning to flash the unlocked N960U1 firmware and use it on Verizon.
Can someone please tell me if I flash the SM-N960U1 firmware, does it include all the bands same as if I bought unlocked phone directly from Samsung? Or does it keep the same bands as came with AT&T? Do I need to flash any modem etc on top of the main firmware to get all the bands?
I want to make sure the phone will have all the bands since I am also planning to use it internationally in addition to on the US Verizon network.
AlwaysNoob said:
Hello,
I am planning to buy AT&T version of Note 9 from craigslist (since they are cheaper due to AT&T BOGO). I am planning to flash the unlocked N960U1 firmware and use it on Verizon.
Can someone please tell me if I flash the SM-N960U1 firmware, does it include all the bands same as if I bought unlocked phone directly from Samsung? Or does it keep the same bands as came with AT&T? Do I need to flash any modem etc on top of the main firmware to get all the bands?
I want to make sure the phone will have all the bands since I am also planning to use it internationally in addition to on the US Verizon network.
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All the *American* Note 9 and S9 phones are identical. If you flash U1 firmware, it becomes identical to a U1 sold directly from Samsung and will support everything they say unlocked supports.
It's been so long and I've been googling for an hour. I haven't flashed since the Note 2 days. I am plan on getting a VZW Note 9. What Odin/firmware/other files do I need to flash and what slots ( or link me to a post).
A lot of posts on here and reddit are assuming your'e a flasher and not giving "steps for dummies".
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
thechaoz said:
It's been so long and I've been googling for an hour. I haven't flashed since the Note 2 days. I am plan on getting a VZW Note 9. What Odin/firmware/other files do I need to flash and what slots ( or link me to a post).
A lot of posts on here and reddit are assuming your'e a flasher and not giving "steps for dummies".
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
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The download is slow if you don't have a premium account but go here for a good set of instructions.
Misterxtc said:
The download is slow if you don't have a premium account but go here for a good set of instructions.
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Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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thechaoz said:
Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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That would be the USC one from the pull down menu. That is the same one you get with a boxed unlocked phone. You would be better off picking the one that matches your carrier, it will still be bloat free but optimized for the chosen carrier. If you have Verizon or AT&T I have those here on AFH. There is a newer update but I don't see it on Sammobile only via OTA so far.
thechaoz said:
Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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Are you using the Note 9 with the unlocked firmware with VZW GUDP? Have you installed any OTA security updates? I've heard there's a small chance a security update could re-instate the hotspot check but I haven't been able to find anyone with GUDP to check.
I'm somewhat in the same position as the OP, I have a note9 which I'm guessing has att firmware, I just bought it "unlocked" from an Ebay reseller. I'm using it on Straighttalk with their att sim. My major (to me) issue is I lost my hot spot permission. I've had hotspot working on last several phones including a note8 hours ago, as soon as I popped sim into this note9 I lost it. I've tried several APN settings to no avail, everything works fine, but no hotspot permissive.
Will I have to flash the U1 firmware to get my hotspot back?
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
bober10113 said:
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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just set sales code to sprint then set all the bands u want.. im currently on U1 firmware on verizon network with sprint sales code to gain access to dialer codes andall is well
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
elliwigy said:
just set sales code to sprint then set all the bands u want.. im currently on U1 firmware on verizon network with sprint sales code to gain access to dialer codes andall is well
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elliwigy said:
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
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yup because phones hardware natively supports these bands:
4G LTE
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS 1),*B5(850),*B7*(2600),*B8*(900),*B12*(700),*B13*(700),*B14*(700),B17*(700),*B18*(800),*B19*(800),*B20*(800),*B25*(1900+),*B26(850),*B28*(700),*B30*(2300),*B38*(TDD 2600),*B39*(TDD 1900),*B40*(TDD 2300),*B41*(TDD 2500),*B46*(TDD 900),*B66(1700/2100),*B71*(600)
3G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS A-F),*B5*(850),*B8(900)
2G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UCDMA BC0*(800),*CDMA BC1*(1900),*CDMA BC10*(800 Secondary),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B5*(850),*B8*(900)
my original post edit was in regards to the fellow above my post(smoke229) inquiring about csc enabled features.
happy new year
bober10113 said:
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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The N960U and the N960U1 all support the same radio bands. They are all identical devices hardware-wise. Actually the N960W is as well. So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands.
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elliwigy said:
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
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Yup. Mine is an ATT carrier model purchased from ATT. Currently running thr U1 firmware on T-Mo with full support for all the T-Mo bands. Honestly switching to the same device for all carriers starting with the S8/+ was the best move Samsung made. I'm anxious for the carrier switching firmware to make a comeback on the Note 9 as well. It was magical watching it switch carrier firmware automatically on the Note 8.
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bober10113 said:
yup because phones hardware natively supports these bands:
4G LTE
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS 1),*B5(850),*B7*(2600),*B8*(900),*B12*(700),*B13*(700),*B14*(700),B17*(700),*B18*(800),*B19*(800),*B20*(800),*B25*(1900+),*B26(850),*B28*(700),*B30*(2300),*B38*(TDD 2600),*B39*(TDD 1900),*B40*(TDD 2300),*B41*(TDD 2500),*B46*(TDD 900),*B66(1700/2100),*B71*(600)
3G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS A-F),*B5*(850),*B8(900)
2G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UCDMA BC0*(800),*CDMA BC1*(1900),*CDMA BC10*(800 Secondary),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B5*(850),*B8*(900)
my original post edit was in regards to the fellow above my post(smoke229) inquiring about csc enabled features.
happy new year
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You can also effect CSC-enabled features by flashing new carrier firmware, assuming you have a SIM for that carrier. Thr CSC specific features will all depend on which SIM card is in the phone. As it provisions automatically for each SIM.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The N960U and the N960U1 all support the same radio bands. They are all identical devices hardware-wise. Actually the N960W is as well. So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands.
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Yup. Mine is an ATT carrier model purchased from ATT. Currently running thr U1 firmware on T-Mo with full support for all the T-Mo bands. Honestly switching to the same device for all carriers starting with the S8/+ was the best move Samsung made. I'm anxious for the carrier switching firmware to make a comeback on the Note 9 as well. It was magical watching it switch carrier firmware automatically on the Note 8.
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You can also effect CSC-enabled features by flashing new carrier firmware, assuming you have a SIM for that carrier. Thr CSC specific features will all depend on which SIM card is in the phone. As it provisions automatically for each SIM.
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so people getting their network unlock codes and unlocking their devices to use with other carriers are pretending to be using their phones on these other "bands" all this time ..wow?
what the u1 firmware does is lift the carrier lock.
the phones original firmware had the ability to use all bands i described in my previous post from day 1.
and i know all about csc so don't waste your breath on me for that.
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so people getting their network unlock codes and unlocking their devices to use with other carriers are pretending to be using their phones on these other "bands" all this time ..wow?
what the u1 firmware does is lift the carrier lock.
the phones original firmware had the ability to use all bands i described in my previous post from day 1.
and i know all about csc so don't waste your breath on me for that.
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I'm not sure what you mean about pretending to use other bands? I'm saying they all support all the bands. Also not sure why you're taking it so personal?
Also, the U1 firmware doesn't lift the carrier lock. You still have to have a carrier-locked device SIM unlocked, either through your carrier, or through a third-party service. At least that's how it works on US Snapdragon devices. I know you use an Exynos, so I'm not sure how the carrier study works on those. All the U1 firmware does is provide a clean, non-carrier branded firmware.
And I didn't waste my breath. Unless you actually say everything out loud while you type? Like moving your lips when you read?
:Shrugs: Hapoy New Year!! :laugh:
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I'm not sure what you mean about pretending to use other bands? I'm saying they all support all the bands. Also not sure why you're taking it so personal?
Also, the U1 firmware doesn't lift the carrier lock. You still have to have a carrier-locked device SIM unlocked, either through your carrier, or through a third-party service. At least that's how it works on US Snapdragon devices. I know you use an Exynos, so I'm not sure how the carrier study works on those. All the U1 firmware does is provide a clean, non-carrier branded firmware.
And I didn't waste my breath. Unless you actually say everything out loud while you type? Like moving your lips when you read?
:Shrugs: Hapoy New Year!! :laugh:
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my bad on the u1 lifting the carrier lock then.
but what i dont understand is:
" So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands."
if they all support the same bands then flashing different firmware should be irrelevant on the phones capacity to use bands that are already available by default.?
bober10113 said:
my bad on the u1 lifting the carrier lock then.
but what i dont understand is:
" So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands."
if they all support the same bands then flashing different firmware should be irrelevant on the phones capacity to use bands that are already available by default.?
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Not even a giggle about the moving your lips while you read comment? Come on, that was gold.
As far as I can tell, there's no difference band support wise between carrier firmware and U1 firmware. BUT with that said, I've heard people say get better signal on carrier firmware. So maybe some carrier firmware locks out certain bands that aren't typically used for that carrier. And I know T-Mobile has aid in the past with the Note 8, only their carrier branded version supported the 256 Quad and 4x4 MIMO or whatever they call that advanced LTE technology. So it leads me.to believe other carrier software maybe locks out the bands T-Mo needs for the advanced LTE stuff.
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Not even a giggle about the moving your lips while you read comment? Come on, that was gold.
As far as I can tell, there's no difference band support wise between carrier firmware and U1 firmware. BUT with that said, I've heard people say get better signal on carrier firmware. So maybe some carrier firmware locks out certain bands that aren't typically used for that carrier. And I know T-Mobile has aid in the past with the Note 8, only their carrier branded version supported the 256 Quad and 4x4 MIMO or whatever they call that advanced LTE technology. So it leads me.to believe other carrier software maybe locks out the bands T-Mo needs for the advanced LTE stuff.
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yeah that's why people flash the tmo detonator pack on rooted devices. but on stock carrier bloat free u1 firmware these 'options' arent probably there. what ever hokus pokus TMO does with their csc to lube up their greased lightning dosent change the fact that other phones having different firmware can still use their services regardless of the firmware you are on, all available bands should operate correctly. thus explaining my previous posts. which were also heavily pointed towards OP's post .( he was inquiring how he wanted to be sure he could still access 'bands' from ATT after flashing u1.) so if you take my comments into context then maybe you'll see that they make sense.( appart from the one where i stated to you that u1 unlocked the sim, but who cares it's only you)
now foe the comedy part, guess we have different visions on what comedy gold is. for instance, the image/caricature your are building in your own mind to make your self laughs is quite a personal thing. Depending on the age and maturity of ones self, it might or might not be(funny). Personally, i usually don't let myself be troubled too much with cheap shots. But i guess it all depends in how hard the other aszhole works at it..
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yeah that's why people flash the tmo detonator pack on rooted devices. but on stock carrier bloat free u1 firmware these 'options' arent probably there. what ever hokus pokus TMO does with their csc to lube up their greased lightning dosent change the fact that other phones having different firmware can still use their services regardless of the firmware you are on, all available bands should operate correctly. thus explaining my previous posts. which were also heavily pointed towards OP's post .( he was inquiring how he wanted to be sure he could still access 'bands' from ATT after flashing u1.) so if you take my comments into context then maybe you'll see that they make sense.( appart from the one where i stated to you that u1 unlocked the sim, but who cares it's only you)
now foe the comedy part, guess we have different visions on what comedy gold is. for instance, the image/caricature your are building in your own mind to make your self laughs is quite a personal thing. Depending on the age and maturity of ones self, it might or might not be(funny). Personally, i usually don't let myself be troubled too much with cheap shots. But i guess it all depends in how hard the other aszhole works at it..
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The detonator for the Exynos running T-Mo firmware. It's a bit different when talking Snapdragon devices.
And I can tell. You giggled. A little.
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The detonator for the Exynos running T-Mo firmware. It's a bit different when talking Snapdragon devices.
And I can tell. You giggled. A little.
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ill tell u jn 6 to 9 beers