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[Q] Disable Contextual Services, do they still run?

I do not have a rooted phone, nor do I ever intend to root so please keep that in mind when responding. Thank you.
My question is this, if I disable every single 'contextual' thing that the Moto X does; for example: twisting wrist for camera, active display, motorola assist, touchless control, etc.
Will the low power processors still run, scanning for detection (sensor pings, accelerometer checks, microphone still listening) if everything is disabled?
Just trying to figure it out because say I wanted to disable everything to squeeze out some battery life, would I be doing it in vain or would it actually shut down those 2 extra processors (language processing/contextual processing) if I am not using any of the services?
I am by no means a phone genius, but I am a pretty smart computer nerd and don't know if anyone has insights about how the phone kernel actually handles this situation. All my research on this matter just finds the very bland and generalized description of the X8 and just what it does.

From my understanding of the X8 soc the 2 extra low power cores are always on. They were also designed to be as power efficient as possible. So disabling all of the apps it handles might not do much in way of power saving. However, if you were to disable all of the moto services I believe the 2 cores will still run but use up a lot less clock cycles since there wouldn't be anything for them to execute. But doing so will also make the moto x that much less of a phone. Its a nice experiment there's no harm in it. Most of the moto apps are allowed to be disabled. If no battery improvements then just revert everything you disabled.
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Well I disabled everything but active display and I can say I have seen a massive increase in battery life. So basically even if the processors are low powered they are still powered and taking battery. I'm going to disable active display tonight before charging and go thru a workday and give an update tomorrow. I suspect I will get another increase in battery life. As of now the increase was significant, I normally take my phone off the charger before I go to sleep at midnight, do a restart and check the battery at 8am. I normally have been losing 4% every single night with everything enabled. That's moto connect, Touch less control, active display. With them all disabled my battery stayed at 100% 2 nights in a row so far

I suppose it's all a matter of context. Compared to my Samsung GS3 (Verizon) I'm seeing MASSIVELY better battery life (>2X) without playing any tricks to modify the stock experience. Some if it may be from going from a CDMA base to GSM. With low radio signal CDMA seems to suck down the battery quickly. It always seems difficult to definitively figure out what is really causing high battery drain when it happens.
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Well I disabled everything but active display and I can say I have seen a massive increase in battery life. So basically even if the processors are low powered they are still powered and taking battery. I'm going to disable active display tonight before charging and go thru a workday and give an update tomorrow. I suspect I will get another increase in battery life. As of now the increase was significant, I normally take my phone off the charger before I go to sleep at midnight, do a restart and check the battery at 8am. I normally have been losing 4% every single night with everything enabled. That's moto connect, Touch less control, active display. With them all disabled my battery stayed at 100% 2 nights in a row so far
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Thanks for the update.
While you say that your battery has increased in standby time, has it increase in SOT?
Would you mind putting up screenshots of you're battery at 75% 50% 25% ?
Would you be able to make a list of all moto services you disabled while still maintaining the active display feature.
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Alright, been busy past few days. I will be posting screenshots with screen time starting now (unplugs phone from charger)
This is the list of EVERYTHING I have disabled, I am running un-rooted Moto X Motomaker edition on Verizon.
Disabled:
Active Display
Audio Effects
Caller Name ID
com.motorola.moodles
Device Management
Email
Google Pinyin Input
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google+
Hangouts
HP Print Service Plugin
Mobile Hotspot
Moto Care
Motorola Assist
Motorola Checkin
Motorola Connect
Motorola Contextual Services
Motorola DriveActivator
Motorola ID
Motorola Migrate
Motorola SensorHub Updater
Motorola Skip Setup
NFL Mobile
Print Spooler
Sync Service
Touchless Control
Verizon Tones
Verizon Voicemail
VZ Navigator
So today I will been doing my best to take screen shots at 25% increments. If results look promising I will do a factory reset and run everything full stock everything enabled to make a comparison.
Also, I have no WiFi on EVER. I do not use location services either. Basically, my phone is never running anything in the background except vital system processes. Stay tuned for the pics, coming tonight around 11pm CST.

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Haven't been using phone so much, here is everything at 75% will be following up today with 50% and hopefully 25% pics

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OK for those of you following here is the update with 25%,battery life. After this I will re-enable everything Motorola on my phone and use the x8 mobile system to its fullest capabilities to have a side by side comparison of what exactly goes on as far as battery life is concerned when the 2 contextual cores are being utilized.

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mikeuresti said:
OK for those of you following here is the update with 25%,battery life. After this I will re-enable everything Motorola on my phone and use the x8 mobile system to its fullest capabilities to have a side by side comparison of what exactly goes on as far as battery life is concerned when the 2 contextual cores are being utilized.
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Thanks for the updates. While getting 27Hrs of usage is great but SOT is much more important. At 25% you have 2 1/2 hr SOT which I don't find that great, considering you lose so many features. I have always average 3 1/2 hrs SOT at 25% with all moto x features on and Google now without location reporting on and that's on LTE 90% of the time.
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Thanks for the updates. While getting 27Hrs of usage is great but SOT is much more important. At 25% you have 2 1/2 hr SOT which I don't find that great, considering you lose so many features. I have always average 3 1/2 hrs SOT at 25% with all moto x features on and Google now without location reporting on and that's on LTE 90% of the time.
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I am just curious, how the HECK do you manage to have 3 hours + of SOT at 25% with everything enabled? that blows me away. is your idle time very low? cause honestly my phone idles longer than its being used, i figure if i had my phone on using it nonstop i could pull off 3 hours with 25% battery, but i work alot and its off more than its on, possibly contributing to the lower SOT in my aspect.
ok, used my phone heavy today, these pics show amazing screen time with 60% battery. i really think disabling contextual services helps, i was using youtube and web browsing on 4g LTE heavily today and here are the results
anyone share their thoughts on this?

mikeuresti said:
I am just curious, how the HECK do you manage to have 3 hours + of SOT at 25% with everything enabled? that blows me away. is your idle time very low? cause honestly my phone idles longer than its being used, i figure if i had my phone on using it nonstop i could pull off 3 hours with 25% battery, but i work alot and its off more than its on, possibly contributing to the lower SOT in my aspect.
ok, used my phone heavy today, these pics show amazing screen time with 60% battery. i really think disabling contextual services helps, i was using youtube and web browsing on 4g LTE heavily today and here are the results
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I'll take pics tonight I don't usually let my phone run down that low. Except when I was trying to test my battery. For a while I wasn't getting good SOT or stand by times. One day android OS ran down my battery and I got pissed off so I sbf back to 4.2.2. Afterwards I let the ota hit the phone did a factory reset after 4.4. When I was setting up my phone I didn't restore anything from play store just did it manually and it has helped. No more high android OS usage.
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This is at 74% 1hr SOT with Google now and moto services running. And I took a shot of running apps to show that all moto services are running.
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Thanks a lot mawells! I am pretty much concluding that the difference is so negligible that the battery gains do not out-weigh the features you are missing.
I also noticed that you are using backup assistant plus? its an annoying little bugger of an app, have you any way to disable/remove that feature? i am stuck with verizon and i cant seem to stop backup assistant plus from running.

mikeuresti said:
Thanks a lot mawells! I am pretty much concluding that the difference is so negligible that the battery gains do not out-weigh the features you are missing.
I also noticed that you are using backup assistant plus? its an annoying little bugger of an app, have you any way to disable/remove that feature? i am stuck with verizon and i cant seem to stop backup assistant plus from running.
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No there's no way to disable it I hate it myself. If you are rooted you can freeze it through titanium backup. But as long as its not syncing its not really doing much.
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Increasing battery life of xperia z3 compact

Hello,
I have a new Xperia Z3 Compact.
I have bought it 7 - 8 days ago.
OS: 4.4.4 (23.0.A.93)
- Network was adjusted as 3G/2G in % 50 of total period, and next % 50 period only 2G
- Stamina mode was always active
- Autosynch: Off
- Brightness: Auto (about % 20 setting)
- Below is my screenshots.
- They say that this is not enought for a Z3 compact.
- So please what is your advice for improving my battery life.
Thanks

Umm, it doesn't get much better than that.

I m getting 0,2% per hour at idle
- Sync off, default settings for most of them
- Google settings disabled for most of them
- Bloatwares disabled through ADB, see the related thread somewhere in Z3 Compact section
- Most of notifications from apps have been disabled
- Apps that attempt to sync or send datas, disable those options
- Wifi sets as not always (2nd option)
- Install BBS and see the amount of awake and if there are suspicious wakelocks (only kernel)
To sum up, disable most of Google services, its one of most reasons for battery life draining
Do not use them unless you need it (i only use Gmail, Books and Maps)

Is it really necessary to disable so much of the functionality? I have Google Now enabled, sync on, stamina mode enabled, and get 2 to 3 days usage with between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time.

I am attempting to avoid Google services and apps
Google and their own services are the main cause of battery life drain, they implemented their apps and services in a way of making it as indispensable.
In the other hand, i have perfectly stable system and my phone would last more longer and doesn't waste battery life at idle

Is this a joke?
It has to be i think

I agree that this is pretty good tbh, but in trying to help: have you disabled or uninstalled all the extra apps that you don't use? There's a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/apps-disabled-boot-t2892919
Removing Facebook is a must for me as I prefer to use or within a browser and like another has said above I also disable Google apps that I don't personally use (in my car Books, Games, Movies & Newsstand). Sony have also put their own apps on the phone, many of which duplicate the functions of Google apps such as messaging, Walkman or are just unnecessary such as Account Manager, Info Eye, Video Unlimited.

jarayn said:
Is this a joke?
It has to be i think
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No, it is not.
I bought this phone cause they said its battery time is 10 days

wingsfortheirsmiles said:
I agree that this is pretty good tbh, but in trying to help: have you disabled or uninstalled all the extra apps that you don't use? There's a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/apps-disabled-boot-t2892919
Removing Facebook is a must for me as I prefer to use or within a browser and like another has said above I also disable Google apps that I don't personally use (in my car Books, Games, Movies & Newsstand). Sony have also put their own apps on the phone, many of which duplicate the functions of Google apps such as messaging, Walkman or are just unnecessary such as Account Manager, Info Eye, Video Unlimited.
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Thanks for your reply. I have already done what you mentioned. And i am checking your link now

Who said that it has 10 days of battery usages? Ofc put it on ultra stamia mod and don't use the phone you have you're 10 days. Otherwise you can't expect a smartphone to last that long it's not possible.

tribemac said:
Who said that it has 10 days of battery usages? Ofc put it on ultra stamia mod and don't use the phone you have you're 10 days. Otherwise you can't expect a smartphone to last that long it's not possible.
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Ok i only wanted to learn if i am doing anything wrong for 10 days standby time

draligus said:
Ok i only wanted to learn if i am doing anything wrong for 10 days standby time
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Don't use the phone and you will get 10 days standby.

draligus said:
No, it is not.
I bought this phone cause they said its battery time is 10 days
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You got nearly 3 days of use with more than 3 hours of calls and 4.5 hours of SOT and stil 37% left. Its almost miraculous. I dont get anywhere near that. I never saw anyone who did.
But then you ask how you can improve it!...thats why i ask if its a joke because surely you cant be serious

I buyed this phone because it is a smartphone. If I needed only battery life I would buy a nokia 1100. So, what's the catch paying 400 euros on a phone and use it like a 20 euros phone? It seems hilarious to me.
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jarayn said:
You got nearly 3 days of use with more than 3 hours of calls and 4.5 hours of SOT and stil 37% left. Its almost miraculous. I dont get anywhere near that. I never saw anyone who did.
But then you ask how you can improve it!...thats why i ask if its a joke because surely you cant be serious
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as i explained that was why i bought this phone. for 10 days standby time.
so as far as i see it is not true

It will give you 10 days, Probably more. If you do not use it at all. The quoted times are always BS figures that are practically unachievable in the real world. But I have to agree with others here, if you want a phone that can give you 10 days of use, by a Nokia featurephone.

What part of "standby" is hard to understand? Believe the estimated battery life. That should give you a good idea. If you really do keep your phone in standby you may even go upto 15 or more days. But it should be standby in the purest sense.

Getting more than 3 days with a few screen hours is easily feasible, but getting more than that is impossible.
The Stamina widget did give me 12 days once but it was a mistake I think, a little glitch in the matrix :silly:

Whats up with people buying a Compact and then expecting miracles? Its already unbelievable good.

Don't forget about GSM singal strength. If you are close to BTS and have ~90% of signal strength and not using your phone you maybe will get 10 days .
It is similar like fuel consumption in car catalog it is always lower then in real usage..
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[Q] Battery draining too fast on Galaxy S6

Hey guys. I recently bought a GS6 and I love everything about the phone....except the battery! This is literally a deciding factor for me vs the iPhone 6.
I know it has a quad HD screen but my battery drains WHEN THE SCREEN IS OFF. My provider (T-Mobile) says one reason could be that I used all my data (T-Mobile just slows down your speeds). This can also mean it's constantly searching for a better signal. Sometimes I don't get reception indoors but usually my reception is good.
Now, I would understand if my battery was dropping IF I had the screen on, but it's not. It's dropping a percent every 2-3 minutes.
Anyone have this issue and can combat it? My data plan reloads in two days so I can see if it gets better but if not, I will be switching to an iPhone....
Thanks in advance.

I just found out you can't use an iPhone without a simcard inserted..?? That's ludacris! Can't use it as a camera, mediaphone, mp3 player.. nothing.. they steal your money bro.. literally. Don't get brain washed. i.e. Use aftermarket cables, the phone will catch fire and burn your house down as punishment..
iPhone all the apps are paid, since you may get used to it.. you should download better battery stats in the playstore, and it will pinpoint you to the battery drain.. could be something as simple as some bloat app. i.e. facebook trying to connect and sync and all that stuff, when you have no data. Same problems when just on wifi? Airplane mode + wifi?
perhaps you can try rooting, pingpongroot just came out and will root your s6 without tripping knox so you can reset your phone back to normal if you decide to go to the dark side.
Purpose of android and the Galaxy s6 is you can make it better or worse thru rooting, tinkering etc. . iPhones are straight same robotic, limited, just got 1080p screens, consistent right out of the box.
Tinker bro!!

The battery drain is probably from a couple of problems you can find by looking at the first page of the general section. About going to the iPhone all I have to say is the iPhone 6 had horrible battery life on launch. So if you where a early adopter to the iPhone 6 you probably would be equally disappointed. Once we get android 5.1.1 we should have really good battery life. My s6 already lasts longer than my LG g3 ever did and it had a bigger battery so I'm pretty pumped for 5.1.1.

I get about 10 to 12 hours of medium to heavy use without charging.
I don't use powersaver, have volte off, wifi search off, wifi calling off, and trust agents smart lock (google) off.
This is with auto screen brightness.
I have a Zerolemon 2800mah case with me as well, but I never use it.

ThePagel said:
The battery drain is probably from a couple of problems you can find by looking at the first page of the general section. About going to the iPhone all I have to say is the iPhone 6 had horrible battery life on launch. So if you where a early adopter to the iPhone 6 you probably would be equally disappointed. Once we get android 5.1.1 we should have really good battery life. My s6 already lasts longer than my LG g3 ever did and it had a bigger battery so I'm pretty pumped for 5.1.1.
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I'm disappointed with my S6 battery but love everything else. I came from an S4 that had amazing battery life. I hope 5.1.1 really does fix this issue....
dfg187 said:
I just found out you can't use an iPhone without a simcard inserted..?? That's ludacris! Can't use it as a camera, mediaphone, mp3 player.. nothing.. they steal your money bro.. literally. Don't get brain washed. i.e. Use aftermarket cables, the phone will catch fire and burn your house down as punishment..
iPhone all the apps are paid, since you may get used to it.. you should download better battery stats in the playstore, and it will pinpoint you to the battery drain.. could be something as simple as some bloat app. i.e. facebook trying to connect and sync and all that stuff, when you have no data. Same problems when just on wifi? Airplane mode + wifi?
perhaps you can try rooting, pingpongroot just came out and will root your s6 without tripping knox so you can reset your phone back to normal if you decide to go to the dark side.
Purpose of android and the Galaxy s6 is you can make it better or worse thru rooting, tinkering etc. . iPhones are straight same robotic, limited, just got 1080p screens, consistent right out of the box.
Tinker bro!!
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I'll keep tinkering! I'ma try freezing some apps without root.
xErwinPLx91 said:
I get about 10 to 12 hours of medium to heavy use without charging.
I don't use powersaver, have volte off, wifi search off, wifi calling off, and trust agents smart lock (google) off.
This is with auto screen brightness.
I have a Zerolemon 2800mah case with me as well, but I never use it.
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I'll track how much battery I really get. If I get 4-5 hours SoT I'll be happy. It's just the drain while the screen is off really bothers me.

darklime said:
I'm disappointed with my S6 battery but love everything else. I came from an S4 that had amazing battery life. I hope 5.1.1 really does fix this issue. I'll keep tinkering! I'ma try freezing some apps without root. I'll track how much battery I really get. If I get 4-5 hours SoT I'll be happy. It's just the drain while the screen is off really bothers me.
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Not to sound braggish, but I always get at least 4 hours SOT. Total standby time varies (30-40 hours) depending on how much I use it, but SOT is always between 4-5 hours which is all I expect from a 2550 mAh battery. Battery life during my first week was awful (so bad that I considered selling it) but after rooting, debloating and other tweaks, I am much happier. I am also running Scuk's XtreStoLite Pure Edition rom, which is an extremely lean version of stock with all Samsung bloatware removed. However, I am still on the stock unmodified kernel with no underclocking or other kernel hacks, and I always get at least 30 hours standby. If you want to get serious about better battery life, I recommend flashing a debloated rom. But if you want to stay stock, then use Titanium Backup to freeze the stuff you don't use and Greenify the rest, and your battery life will improve. Just don't expect to set battery life records with the S6, because it will never happen.

I'm not sure why you are losing a percent every 2-3 min when the phone is on standby. I get great battery life on mine. Today I lightly used my phone (A few calls and texts, maybe took 10 pictures and some short videos, browsed the web and YouTube a little) but it was mostly in standby. It has been just short of 12 hours since it was fully charged this morning and it is still at 71%.
Maybe you have a defective battery. Also, and I may have been imagining it, but I think the battery life improved after a week or two of use. Maybe there is a break in period for it.

sublimaze said:
Not to sound braggish, but I always get at least 4 hours SOT. Total standby time varies (30-40 hours) depending on how much I use it, but SOT is always between 4-5 hours which is all I expect from a 2550 mAh battery. Battery life during my first week was awful (so bad that I considered selling it) but after rooting, debloating and other tweaks, I am much happier. I am also running Scuk's XtreStoLite Pure Edition rom, which is an extremely lean version of stock with all Samsung bloatware removed. However, I am still on the stock unmodified kernel with no underclocking or other kernel hacks, and I always get at least 30 hours standby. If you want to get serious about better battery life, I recommend flashing a debloated rom. But if you want to stay stock, then use Titanium Backup to freeze the stuff you don't use and Greenify the rest, and your battery life will improve. Just don't expect to set battery life records with the S6, because it will never happen.
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hank you for replying! I do actually want to stay on stock, but I found this neat thread/program from an XDA user that lets you remote bloat so I will try that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
That's the link.
I would actually be very satisfied with 30-40 hours of standby time with 4-5 hours of SoT, which is exactly what I'm trying to achieve. If you may, I just have a couple questions to ask. Do you leave Wifi/data on when you're not using it to receive push emails, etc. throughout the day and do you have the Facebook and Messenger app installed? I noticed if I left them running in the background they sucked up my battery.
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I'm not sure why you are losing a percent every 2-3 min when the phone is on standby. I get great battery life on mine. Today I lightly used my phone (A few calls and texts, maybe took 10 pictures and some short videos, browsed the web and YouTube a little) but it was mostly in standby. It has been just short of 12 hours since it was fully charged this morning and it is still at 71%.
Maybe you have a defective battery. Also, and I may have been imagining it, but I think the battery life improved after a week or two of use. Maybe there is a break in period for it.
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Wow, your battery sounds phenomenal! I had 80% this morning and after 8 hours I'm under 50% already with very light use. =/ I feel it's more like 3%/hour on standby but if I can get it to 1-1.5% every hour with wifi and sync on that would be perfect. Thanks for the reply!

Tagging this thread - I'd be happy to hit 20 hours with 4 hours SOT on this battery - today I got 15 hours standby and 2 hours 20 minutes SOT before having to charge.

Guys, found a really nice debloater tool you can use on stock too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
I just need to know which ones to remove (or a list of what app does what now so I can remove it)

darklime said:
Thank you for replying! I do actually want to stay on stock, but I found this neat thread/program from an XDA user that lets you remote bloat so I will try that.
I would actually be very satisfied with 30-40 hours of standby time with 4-5 hours of SoT, which is exactly what I'm trying to achieve. If you may, I just have a couple questions to ask. Do you leave Wifi/data on when you're not using it to receive push emails, etc. throughout the day and do you have the Facebook and Messenger app installed? I noticed if I left them running in the background they sucked up my battery.
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I have wifi and location enabled all the time. BT on while in my car, otherwise BT off.
I don't facebook. FB is a known battery hog. Get rid of those 2 apps and you will probably gain another hour SOT.
Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drain 2-3%.

IMO the battery life got better over time.. I noticed a huge drain initially.. but for some reason after about 3 weeks with my s6 it's gotten noticeably better.. Its not the best battery, but it does improve

darklime said:
Guys, found a really nice debloater tool you can use on stock too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
I just need to know which ones to remove (or a list of what app does what now so I can remove it)
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It appears that it simply disables the app (unless you're rooted). There's an app you can download to do it easier. Download Package Disabler from the Play Store.
sublimaze said:
I have wifi and location enabled all the time. BT on while in my car, otherwise BT off.
I don't facebook. FB is a known battery hog. Get rid of those 2 apps and you will probably gain another hour SOT.
Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drain 2-3%.
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So much want

sublimaze said:
I have wifi and location enabled all the time. BT on while in my car, otherwise BT off.
I don't facebook. FB is a known battery hog. Get rid of those 2 apps and you will probably gain another hour SOT.
Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drain 2-3%.
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Very impressive. I'll hang on to FB because it isn't showing up in my list of used programs atm but if I see any difference I'll remove it. I lost 4% overnight so that's an improvement.
kill2010 said:
IMO the battery life got better over time.. I noticed a huge drain initially.. but for some reason after about 3 weeks with my s6 it's gotten noticeably better.. Its not the best battery, but it does improve
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I'm not expecting the best battery, but I'm expecting a day and a half of light use due to all these posts I've seen. I'll keep at it and see how it fares.
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It appears that it simply disables the app (unless you're rooted). There's an app you can download to do it easier. Download Package Disabler from the Play Store.
So much want
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Yes, I just want to disable it, not remove it because you can't use that space anyways so it's just better to disable it in case you need to re-enable it for an OTA or if you need to return/sell.

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Here are my current battery stats, on track for another 40 hrs standby + 5 hrs SOT.
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Wondering if this is considered decent battery life? This is with very light use of text, data and wifi with email sync. The standby time is great but the on-screen time is meh. I also used airplane mode in areas where I was getting spotty reception during class. I also get the message "No internet connection or server not available" and I feel like a certain app is searching for a connection that could drain the battery more but I'm not sure which app it would be.

darklime said:
Wondering if this is considered decent battery life? This is with very light use of text, data and wifi with email sync. The standby time is great but the on-screen time is meh. I also used airplane mode in areas where I was getting spotty reception during class. I also get the message "No internet connection or server not available" and I feel like a certain app is searching for a connection that could drain the battery more but I'm not sure which app it would be.
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I'd definitely consider that good battery life. I'd love if mine could reach that.

darklime said:
Wondering if this is considered decent battery life? This is with very light use of text, data and wifi with email sync. The standby time is great but the on-screen time is meh. I also used airplane mode in areas where I was getting spotty reception during class. I also get the message "No internet connection or server not available" and I feel like a certain app is searching for a connection that could drain the battery more but I'm not sure which app it would be.
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Your standby time is great but your SOT isn't that great. Your email app is using a lot of battery syncing. I recommend using Greenify or Servicely to restrict wakeups.
Your idle drain curve looks a bit steep. Mine is almost flat. How much does it drain overnight?
Facebook and FB Messenger are battery hogs. Delete those and you will probably get another hour SOT.
Good idea using airplane mode in areas where you know you won't get signal. You could use Tasker or Llama to automate switching back & forth.

I can live with this.. Took my phone off the charger early this morning

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I can live with this.. Took my phone off the charger early this morning
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I wish 9am was early! I unplugged mine at about 0430 this morning. My screen on time is only about an hour and 15 minutes though.
My phone still stays awake too much. One hour is from music during the gym - I'm not sure why the kernel has it staying awake for 6+ hours though

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I wish 9am was early! I unplugged mine at about 0430 this morning. My screen on time is only about an hour and 15 minutes though.
My phone still stays awake too much. One hour is from music during the gym - I'm not sure why the kernel has it staying awake for 6+ hours though
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Yeah that is jacked up. GSam monitor shows your phone has been awake for over 8 hrs, so it is not going into deep sleep. Out of curiosity, install CPU Spy and see what it shows. It should be similar to this:

Battery Life - Is this normal?

I recently picked up a Moto G 2014 for a family member since it was on sale and I'm having a bit of trouble, at least I think I am. This person hardly uses the phone, doesn't make calls every day but putters around on it, listens to music occasionally. Real basic use stuff. The battery only seems to last a day. In trying to diagnose/troubleshoot it without rooting or voiding warranty, it seems like it's draining excessively. Just sitting with all the apps closed on the home screen, it's burning up about 180-210 mA according to Ampere. Now, my LG G2 reliably uses 30mA on the home screen without apps running. Apples & oranges, I know but shouldn't the value on the Moto G be lower? Does anyone else use Ampere and have similar readings? With the little use this phone sees, I'd imagine people that use it regularly have to charge multiple times a day to keep the phone alive and I can't see the Motorola engineers doing that. I've tried closing and disabling apps that aren't used and there doesn't seem to be much that goes on. So I'm not sure if this is normal or if something's wrong. I have done all the OTA updates and also tried a factory reset, it made no difference. I'm tempted to root & install the official CM but if there's something wrong with the phone, I want to get it fixed through Motorola first.
Any ideas for this Moto newbie? Thanks in advance.
Here's some screenshots of the battery stats in case anyone's curious:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-48.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-55.png

I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf

zman01 said:
I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
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That sounds significantly better than what my Moto G is getting. I doubt the phone sees 2 hours of SoT in a day but the battery barely lasts a day. I'm hoping it's just hoggy apps and that CM will clean things up.
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Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I think you're right actually. Looking at the Ampere stats, it shows 30mA as the max draw, even after opening several apps and running. I thought this seemed right for idle but it's always stuck there under load.

Actually I had a similar problem with my Moto G on stock. Did you use GPS? Because when I turn on and off gps on my phone it remains ON and drains my battery pretty fast, until I restart my phone. So whenever I use GPS I have to turn it off in settings and restart my phone in order to turn it off.

OK so if u really want a decent battery life. Just turn of sync, location and keep scanning In advanced WiFi settings.
Since its showing Google services as culprit, turning sync off would probably solve the issue.
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P20 Pro SOT question

Hi guys, since emui 9 and 9.1 my SOT it's about 4 hours or 4.5 hours max,sometimes even 3 hours if i played a lot, I usually play games for a couple of hours, spotify youtube and instagram and the max i can get is 4 hours (From 100% to like 20-25%)
When i don't play and i use only instagram youtube and watch streamings i get more SOT but like 5 hours max
I've looked into the battery details and nothing seems strange (With gsam i found that i have some wake lock that drains battery like 1-2% at night) and during the night i lose like 5-6% battery with wifi on and bluetooth and gps off
Is that normal? Do you get the same SOT?
Also my screen lights up for no reason at all very often, i disabled the feature that can unlock the screen from lifting
I got emui 9.1.0.328

Do a Factory reset. Just to be sure that is not software related.

Horayken said:
Do a Factory reset. Just to be sure that is not software related.
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already did that and cleared chace, still the same

It worked?
Poslano sa mog P20 Pro

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It worked?
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Still same SOT
what's yours

@Danyy29
This such a subjective subjective.
Give or take you should be seeing around 1.5-2 days total up time and around 5-8 on average SOT.
But and I'll quote this as it's a massively expansive word for this subject.
"It Depends!!!"
Signal strength.
Routine
Battery efficiency
Age of device
Apps installed
Amount of apps installed
App usage
Device set up
Switch choices (WiFi/BT etc)
Firmware
Model
Variant
These are the tip of the ice berg.
You cannot measure two devices as they're just so different, even though they appear the same.
When I was sick one time. I stayed in bed playing Zelda the wind waker on the dolphin emulator.
During that weekend, I managed to get 14 hours 45 mins on a OnePlus 5.
Same situation 1 year later on my p20 pro, 17 hours 47 mins.
I have all this in a thread with proof.
Great signal
Only used internet
Few messages
Few calls
Great WiFi
Didn't leave house
No mobile gaming
That being said... 9.1 is not as efficient as 8.1 by a country mile, it's an apple style nudge to get you to buy a new phone even though you don't need one.
Hope this helps.
If I had to give you a top tip, it would be too lighten the load, no Facebook. No Snapchat, Instagram, any apps with ads, get rid. Any apps that run all the time! Get rid.
No excess apps, get rid. Get drastic.
Then test

Internal short or the battery is defective. Take it to a huawei care center.

With Accubattery the life it's like 90%
I bought this device in november 2018
I don't think it has problems that much
It doesn't get overheated
I get a maximum of 40°C when high end gaming
So idk
but ty for advices