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Argh...applying screen guard

Ok I got one of the anti-glare ones and I've got dust under it. The package says washable.....
I'm not too good with this but several websites say to use a little water in putting on one of these. Is it safe to do that with the Nook? Has anyone been able to put one on without getting dust under it?

Yes I have the anti glare on, with no dust and no water used.
The trick that I learned from applying screen covers on my Nexus, was if you get something underneath; lift it up, try not to get your fingers on the sticky side; and use a piece of scotch tape to lift off the dust from the sticky portion of the screen, then put it back down.

I had good luck installing the glossy protector. I didn't use water, I just scrubbed the screen with the felt that came in the packaging. Scrub it really well to get all the oil off (dont bare down really hard, just make multiple passes). Use clean hands while installing it. What I do is peal only the top 1/3 of the backing off, get it lined up on the screen (square to the top) and stick it down. Then slowly peal and press the remaining 2/3s. This way you never touch the sticky side, and you limit its exposure to incidental crud.
Hope that helps if you get what I mean.
Good luck!

I had dust under mine too. Didn't have a problem with the smaller phone screen but a tablet screen is harder to do. I washed mine and shook as much water off as I could and applied it. As I pushed the bubbles and water out to the edges, I dried it off with a cloth to prevent it from seeping into the nook. My nook is still running for 5 mos now.

My screen has been naked from when I got it. To tell you the truth, this screen can take a hell of a beating as I've dropped my keys on it once or twice and still not a single scratch.

I put the BandN hardshield type protector on mine and its bulletproof. It's kind of stiff so it's pretty easy to get on straight and if you do as suggested with the backpeel off its pretty easy to get on without dust. I got a tiny cat hair under the corner but it's hardly noticeable and doesn't cause any glare at all. You can't tell my nook even has a cover without sticking your nose on it.

There is a thread about this in the nook accessory forums area. They say to clean your screen and apply it in a steam filled bathroom. The steam from the shower keeps the dust out of the air. It worked great for me.
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JF-WS6 said:
There is a thread about this in the nook accessory forums area. They say to clean your screen and apply it in a steam filled bathroom. The steam from the shower keeps the dust out of the air. It worked great for me.
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I totally agree with this! After many Dsi and Ipod touch applications in my bathrom, I set off to do my NC in there too! The dust is so much less with the hot shower running, I got a Perfect install!

Ditto on the shower, only time ever that I got a perfect install was with a lil steam in the room. Also, if you want to go the extra mile, I read a tip somewhere that said to put a little water in a bowl, add a drop or two of dish soap and then dip your fingertips in it before applying. In a perfect world you would never touch the sticky side but I live far from there and with the soapy water deal helps a lot in repositioning since anything I touch dries clear.
You can actually get the whole sticky side SLIGHTY wet and just slide the thing around as long as you let it dry a day or so after install but I always worry about a drop of moisture sneaking in the side of the screen so I stick with finger tips.

Great...gonna have to peel it off tonight and try to reapply.

Used the anti-glare ones and got some dust under one. Just lifted the side with the dust and used some masking tape to get the dust stuck on the protector.

I applied my screen protector using the water trick. I used a little deionzed water. Just wet the screen protector, place it gently (you can move it around while it's wet). Then squeeze out the water using a card. While you do that collect the water off the edge using kitchen paper.
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Which protector did you use? I got one off amazon and it's just slightly off so that there's a large spot in one corner that's off.

I installed the Nook protector and decided that all I gained was another surface to collect fingerprints. It's glossy and not matte like other protectors so fingerprints show up just the same.
It did appear to make the touchscreen a little more stable. I don't seem to get as many false touches. Of course, it could just be me.
I am not sure it was worth it other than protecting the screen from any significant gouges.

XOskin screen protector

I finally installed the XOskin screen protector I got a while back.
It's been 17 hours since I installed it, about six hours in front of a heater register. I must have a hundred air bubbles! Doesn't look much different from this morning "before" a majority of the heated time. They say the micro bubbles go away in 24-48hrs. Don't know I'd call them micro bubbles and we'll see about them going away too.
Should get that guy that installed one in their video but he probably done a bunch. He had hardly any bubbles after installing it.
It's cut close near the speakers, top/bottom have some extra room but holes from the camera/sensor are tight. It took me three tries to get it right.
I put a Zagg on a 7" tab and don't remember this many bubbles. Maybe bigger doesn't mean easier?

wptski said:
I finally installed the XOskin screen protector I got a while back.
It's been 17 hours since I installed it, about six hours in front of a heater register. I must have a hundred air bubbles! Doesn't look much different from this morning "before" a majority of the heated time. They say the micro bubbles go away in 24-48hrs. Don't know I'd call them micro bubbles and we'll see about them going away too.
Should get that guy that installed one in their video but he probably done a bunch. He had hardly any bubbles after installing it.
It's cut close near the speakers, top/bottom have some extra room but holes from the camera/sensor are tight. It took me three tries to get it right.
I put a Zagg on a 7" tab and don't remember this many bubbles. Maybe bigger doesn't mean easier?
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I installed Zaggs when I worked at Best Buy and was the go to guy there so I am going to see if I can explain this here and it might help some people out. (This is not me bragging, this is me trying to give back in whatever way I can)
First make sure you are using a clean surface and the air quality is pretty good (no dust floating around)
Next clean the screen with at least water, the spray included with Zagg and XO are actually pretty good cleaners too. You will need the cloth that comes with it to wipe it down later so use something like an extra microfiber cloth to clean it when it is wet.
Beat out the cloth that came with it against something. It will have dust in it, you need to get all that dust out. Wipe the dry screen down very well, make sure to end it you wipe all in one direction making sure there is no dust on the screen. I've found that if you start at the top and wipe towards yourself you will end up with no dust.
Spray the screen with the spray included while covering the holes that are showing on the front as you spray by them with that screen protector.
Spray the top of the screen protector (makes it easier for the squeegee to slide across and remove bubbles), and spray your fingers. (important step, saves so much grief later caused by finger prints or by trying really hard not to touch the back.)
Remove the protective backing making sure not to let any of the protector touch itself, that is a major problem with people trying their first time. Then spray the back of the protector generously and your fingers again.
Put the protector down and get it lined up. It will slide around pretty easily. When it is in line use the squeegee and make a line across the middle of the protector to hold it down.
Pull up half of it making sure not to go all the way to where you pressed it down and spray the screen and protector to make sure they are still wet and slowly squeegee it down. Start with the part touching the screen and squeegee, only laying down what the squeegee is pressing down. This will ensure that you don't create a bubble by just laying it down.
Pull up the other half to where you stopped the last time and repeat the last step with the other half.
You might end up with some liquid left in the protector, but the squeegee will get this out easily. Make sure you look at it from all angles with light hitting all sides so that you can see all the pockets. Squeegee out what remains and you are done.
It seems like a ton of work, but I consistently showed people up with this method. After putting enough down you just lay it and get it in line and squeegee the crap out of it, but this is the best way to learn. Remember that you will need some decent force to make sure you get it tight to the screen. Don't use too much though or you'll stretch it.

wptski said:
I finally installed the XOskin screen protector I got a while back.
It's been 17 hours since I installed it, about six hours in front of a heater register. I must have a hundred air bubbles! Doesn't look much different from this morning "before" a majority of the heated time. They say the micro bubbles go away in 24-48hrs. Don't know I'd call them micro bubbles and we'll see about them going away too.
Should get that guy that installed one in their video but he probably done a bunch. He had hardly any bubbles after installing it.
It's cut close near the speakers, top/bottom have some extra room but holes from the camera/sensor are tight. It took me three tries to get it right.
I put a Zagg on a 7" tab and don't remember this many bubbles. Maybe bigger doesn't mean easier?
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are you sure you clean your screen perfectly before you apply it?
it might need longer time, like 24 hours - 48 hours, but it shouldn't that much bubble for 17 hours.
I apply the xoskin on my nexus 7 and end up with 1 bubble after about 24 hours or more, most probably because i didn't clean it well. Oh but well, the xoskin on my nexus 7 definitely reduce the sensitivity and sometimes makes the screen almost totally not responsive (i always gotta wipe the screen with something and it finally fixed). Might be the defect in my case but i don't wanna take a chance in their product again for now.

I used Monster screen cleaner with a micro fiber cloth, no cloth comes with the XOskin. One thing, it kind-of stuck and didn't slide around like the Zagg did. I wet it good on both sides but maybe because it took three tries, I should have rewet it??
In front of the heat register all day, no drastic change that I can tell and coming up on 24 hrs.

wptski said:
I used Monster screen cleaner with a micro fiber cloth, no cloth comes with the XOskin. One thing, it kind-of stuck and didn't slide around like the Zagg did. I wet it good on both sides but maybe because it took three tries, I should have rewet it??
In front of the heat register all day, no drastic change that I can tell and coming up on 24 hrs.
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Yea, you have to rewet it when you reapply it. I would request a replacement from XO. I wouldn't put it in front of a heater either. If you squeegee it down good enough you don't need heat.

thacounty said:
Yea, you have to rewet it when you reapply it. I would request a replacement from XO. I wouldn't put it in front of a heater either. If you squeegee it down good enough you don't need heat.
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I mean that I didn't have it completely laid down all way, I was off location a mile. You have to position by the camera/sensor holes and the top edge and there isn't much room for error. Sideways there is no room for error, overlap near the speakers and its edge will stick up.
I found the follow at the XOskin site:
How do I get rid of bubbles that appear after I’ve installed my XO Skins?
If it was recently that you installed the XO Skins, as soon as possible try pressing out the bubbles lightly with the squeegee. Make sure the squeegee is wet to avoid burn marks on the Skin. If the Skin has been dry for longer than a few hours, then the large bubbles are set in and you'll need a replacement. Small bubbles, or mini-bubbles, are normal and will disappear 24 to 48 hours after installation.
Whoops! I wonder what they call large and /or small bubbles? I removed it, wet applied to the sheet it came on on a flat surface. We'll see how it looks after a while and if it's worth a retry. Might have to get a replacement.
Like I mention, even when wet, it doesn't slide around easily. Maybe these are not as easy as a Zagg to install which has an orange peel surface which would allow the fluid in the pockets for easier movement?

wptski said:
I mean that I didn't have it completely laid down all way, I was off location a mile. You have to position by the camera/sensor holes and the top edge and there isn't much room for error. Sideways there is no room for error, overlap near the speakers and its edge will stick up.
I found the follow at the XOskin site:
How do I get rid of bubbles that appear after I’ve installed my XO Skins?
If it was recently that you installed the XO Skins, as soon as possible try pressing out the bubbles lightly with the squeegee. Make sure the squeegee is wet to avoid burn marks on the Skin. If the Skin has been dry for longer than a few hours, then the large bubbles are set in and you'll need a replacement. Small bubbles, or mini-bubbles, are normal and will disappear 24 to 48 hours after installation.
Whoops! I wonder what they call large and /or small bubbles? I removed it, wet applied to the sheet it came on on a flat surface. We'll see how it looks after a while and if it's worth a retry. Might have to get a replacement.
Like I mention, even when wet, it doesn't slide around easily. Maybe these are not as easy as a Zagg to install which has an orange peel surface which would allow the fluid in the pockets for easier movement?
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I put xo skins on my evo 3d and my 2 touchpads when I had them. They don't slide as easily, you are correct, but keeping them wet will go a long way. That is why so much spray is included. Just make sure all bubbles are gone before you start letting it dry.

thacounty said:
I put xo skins on my evo 3d and my 2 touchpads when I had them. They don't slide as easily, you are correct, but keeping them wet will go a long way. That is why so much spray is included. Just make sure all bubbles are gone before you start letting it dry.
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Too bad I didn't have /get more info before the first try. Yeah it probably needs lots of spray to let it slide but one has to be careful because of the speakers on the sides.

wptski said:
Too bad I didn't have /get more info before the first try. Yeah it probably needs lots of spray to let it slide but one has to be careful because of the speakers on the sides.
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Yea, if you get liquid around them dry them out immediately. That's why I cover ports as I spray around them with the protector.

Back glass unsticking

I have had this phone for about 1.5 years now and it held up,it was running very well but it always had an overheating problem,you have probably seen me all over the forums asking how can I lower the temperature of the phone lol.
Well it has become less apparent with the latest build of Lineage,only when I am using Snapchat but that doesn't matter.
But now what started happening is my back glass is unsticking,the bottom part to be exact,I believe this is because the device heated up so much it weakened the adhesive.
So I am asking now with what material I can re-stick the back glass properly since I don't want it to hang like that for no reason.

Use fevibond
You can use fevibond(Synthetic Rubber Base Glue). I used it to stick front screen peeling off from top left corner.

Dhgr8 said:
You can use fevibond(Synthetic Rubber Base Glue). I used it to stick front screen peeling off from top left corner.
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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?

Dinkec27 said:
Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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No, that would make it tough/impossible to separate it for repairs.
Please refer to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/sony-xperia-z3-compacts-display-peeling-t3156347

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Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Nope I wouldn't do that, as super glue is not flexible. I have glued both screen and back glass with B7000 adhesive (most repair shops use it specifically for displays) and it hasn't moved since. That was done some 4 months ago. If you put enough glue on the frame (be careful not to leave empty spots, cover the complete frame with glue), of course avoid dripping of the sides into the frame, I am sure that it won't peel off again, especially the back glass.
I am waiting for new screen to arrive, so I'll have to re-do everything again, of course with B7000.

Dinkec27 said:
Could I use something like superglue or something similar to that?
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Never use superglue, it will not last long and will ruin your phone, as superglue's main ingredient disintegrates plastic...
I've also used red 3m tape, does not hold!
Bought B7000 glue, will use it once my new battery arrives, so using useless 3m red tape in the mean time...
-Update-
B7000 Glue works!!!
I heavily flash, test etc. and no matter how hot the phone gets, it's sealed and does not reopen.
I cleaned the surfaces, I applied the glue, and did not care about making a mess (the glue is easily removable for future repairs) and did not care about it oozing out either, just made sure that it covered that border.
I did not use any heat, and it was still cold here.
I then used clothes pegs, 3 on each edge (I was worried about too much pressure, but it was not an issue)
I did not turn my phone on at all, and waited for 48 hours, before removing the pegs then turning it on.
Please note: the z3c is bendable, especially in jeans pockets, I use an anodized bumper to keep it straight. And using tempered glass on both sides is recommended.
***I did however buy a new battery, as my previous battery seemed fat, and I also removed the nfc sticker, but not sure if that is necessary.

An Ongoing Chronical Of The Whitestone Dome

I have read many mixed reviews of this glass screen protector here, on other forums, and on Amazon.
Amazon's the best, IMO, because you're reading product reviews from real everyday normal folks from all different walks, so the compilation of reviews includes the whole range of skill level.
Inarguably, the Whitestone Dome Glass protector is probably THE MOST difficult to install, save the fact that the kit includes an allignment jig that helps installation inmeasurably. I recently did this (this evening) and can't imagine attempting this without such a jig, though I understand similar UV activated glue is available to use with separately sold glass protectors.
So I'll start with some background info to set the scene for accuracy...
I'm a landscaper by day, but a jeweler part time. That means I chunk heavy crap around all day long like a farmer, but on the weekends I show off my dexterity like a watchmaker.
That's important, because this installation requires steady, confident hands, much forethought, patience, and it ain't cheap!
Sooooo...
Let me say that I was really nervous. I already accepted the idea that I might have to decide whether to purchase another one or go a different route and just choke on losing 45 dollars.
I watched 8 YouTube videos on installation, including one completely failed installation, and a demonstration on the removal of one.
The package arrived today but was outside the house in the cold. Of course I wanted to pop it on immediately, but figured that it should warm up to temperature first.
During that time I prepped my table. I used a marble to see if it was level. During preparation, i also prepared myself for the possibility of failure. LOL!
I layed out all of the items like I was about to perform surgery.
CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN!
Use those dust removal stickers! Even after you let the glue fall and remove the "bridge", check again for dust.
Don't flail about to much. That simply stirs up dust.
"Relax", is the best advice I can give. Peeling the backing off the glass from underneath it so dust that's in the air doesn't land on the inside surface sounds like a logical idea, and you should, but static from peeling it can become a pain.
If you're calm enough, you can do this just like the videos.
I wiped the edges after the first and second curing with the UV light. I did end up with excess flow out one side, and on the other side during the second wipe down, I had an ever so tiny bubble (if you'd even call it that) on the edge. The bubble was from wiping away the partially curred glue, which pulled a tiny, TINY bit out. (Literally one third the size of the exposed part of the SPen tip.)
I remedied this OCD-killer by using a toothpick dabbed in what remained at the top of the glue tube and simply touched it to the edge, which sucked it right in to fill the tiny void.
I used the UV light several times with the idea that it simply couldn't hurt to do it as often as I could.
My screen literally looks like a perfect install. Absolutely fantastic, as Sakitech would say!
I would say the skill level required for this is about average, but you really have only one chance to get it right, and there are a few steps that need to be followed perfectly or else they can trip you up.
Watch those videos. Many show people doing an imperfect installation with decent or good results, but after watching several you'll see just how to avoid mishaps.
On a different note, I did notice something very strange while utilizing the UV light; there is a weird shape in the center of the screen that shows up under the light. I have no idea what it is, but it shows as a slightly different color in the center third of the screen, nearly full length with rounded corners and perfectly symmetrical. I'm assuming it's an adhesive beneath the screen for the interactive SPen screen? I dunno. Kinda neat.
Anyway, after reading reviews stating problems with lifting of the edges of the Whitestone Dome, I figured I would contribute here by checking in and giving updates as to the longevity of this very beautiful, but slightly expensive and fiddly (to say the least) installing screen protector.
Feel free to ask any questions.

O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.

AddictedToGlass said:
O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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Same here with mine. Very satisfied. Nearly 3 months now and it's been rock solid for me.

Same here, great bit of kit.

Agreed - I love my Whitestone. It picked up a scratch, and I used the new warranty facility to replace it. It's not exactly cheap (around £20) to get the replacement, but it's better than having to buy one at full price.
This one ended up being a little more fiddly to install, but that was my fault - I allowed the LOCA to flow too far towards the bottom of the device before dropping the glass. I had tiny cluster of bubbles near the power switch which I worked out with some patience, and I also ended up sticking the jig together because I cured it for too long before removing the phone. However, the overall result is better than my original install, and I haven't had the touch up the edges of this one at all.

As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.

jooniloh said:
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.

sefrcoko said:
Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.

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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Maybe I've just been getting bad batches? idk.

I've had no problems with mine. Looks and works great! My wife's has started to come up on a corner. It's because she was mishandling it and not realizing what she was doing. All the warnings that we are aware of she is basically unaware of because... I don't know. It's still working for her and doesn't bother her. I don't plan on using another brand when I have to replace hers.

After 3 months the glue went bad on mine and started peeling on a top corner, then it went down both sides over night. Frankly at £40, it needs to last a lot longer for that money.

So;
It's mid August, 6½ months after the installation and it still looks great.
To be fair I have to mention that I do have two phones I use on a daily basis, but the Note is used for many more hours a week as a tablet as compared to my naked S8+, which I really only use to make and take calls.
In other words, the Note sees a lot of touch screen activity.
The Whitestone is holding up much better than I expected, given all the problems I've read about it. I do have a very subtle problem spot on the right side edge right in the middle where it has started to bubble. Though it's really only visible at certain angles, and quite small, my OCD magnifies this visual defect a great deal for me! When I hand over my phone to someone (always reluctantly...LOL) to view a picture or an app, I still get compliments on the screen protector, and no one has ever pointed it out to me. (It is very small.)
IT HAS DONE IT'S JOB...
-At least once, because there's a small scratch in the surface of the glass. Again, another thing hardly noticable, but if it were in the screen itself of my Note, I would be very upset. (Give me 6 more months to get to the point where it's perfectly acceptable for this handheld device to show signs of use.)
A CORNER DID START TO LIFT...
Last month, the upper right hand corner developed a very small bubble. I knew right away from what I've read that this might be the start of the end of this screen's life. But I continually massaged the screen down many times, and it actually worked and resealed.
My take on this is that firstly, it's been ridiculously hot in my region. That might've helped with resealing. But secondly and most importantly, I never allow dust to get near my phone.
Dust is the enemy. A single microfiber particle between the screen and glass cover might've made resealing impossible. People pop their phones in their pocket all the time, and because the phones are dust proof now, it's even easier to take for granted what they are exposed to. As soft and protective as pockets are, they expose phones to a lot of dust. (Look at the lint trap in a clothes dryer!)
IN CONCLUSION...
I'll keep monitoring this thread to answer any questions, but I'll probably only post an update of when the Whitestone finally needs to be replaced. At that point I'll probably throw some photos up before I remove the old one.
As far as I'm concerned it has already exceeded my expectations of longevity, and I'll gladly be getting a replacement when the time comes. But I will continue to try to get the most life out of this one despite the small lift on the edge.
BTW...
The "problem" side of my screen is where it had less of the LOCA bleeding out of the edge during installation. Even though the puddle of adhesive was dead center when I dropped the glass on, when I wiped the excess from the edges, the right side had less run-off. Right now I'm wondering if I wiped the excess off of the edges too soon. During the next installation, I'll be sure to give more time for the glue to stay where it needs to.
COMPARED TO NO SCREEN PROTECTOR...
Well, I never, ever, ever have used any of my smart phones without a screen protector. But I finally grew weary of the cheap crappy edge-adhesive glass protector I had on my S8+, and threw it out! The screen would often not register touches, etc, and was an under-screen dust catcher. I havn't bought a Whitestone for it yet because I spend so little time using it that I keep forgetting. So for about 4 months, I've been using my S8+ with no protection save a case that does have a screen flap (like a wallet).
I have a small rub mark on the screen, hardly noticable, but it's there.
If and when I purchase a Whitestone for that phone, I'll post here as to whether or not the LOCA actually hides that mark, as I've read in other threads that it can hide existing scratches presumably because it fills them in (makes sense).
A FINAL PLUG FOR THE NOTE 8...
I doubt the NOTE 10/X will wow me enough to drop my 8 like a wet sock and bolt to the store. I do figure that it'll be feature-packed since the advances of the 9 weren't anything crazy special. But I'm far from tired of this phone and given what I paid for it, I expect I'll have it long enough to have to perform the inevitable battery replacement surgery before I finally upgrade.
I believe the Whitestone protection will help me stay that course. :good:

Question Whitestone Dome - UV light more or less?

Installed the Whitestone dome and it came out perfect.
Just wondering if it makes any difference to use the curing light more than recommended?
Will too much UV light damage the adhesive or glass?
I've already done a few extra minutes.

Just don't look at it...

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Just don't look at it...
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I don't understand?

It's fine.
Short wavelength UV can damage your eyes... never look at it. Including the light reflected of objects illuminated by it.
Welder's flash is painful... think sand in your eyes.

The extra uv light will do nothing to the adhesive. The recommended ammount of uv blue light by White Stone is more then enough to make a great fit.

bartjeh1991 said:
The extra uv light will do nothing to the adhesive. The recommended ammount of uv blue light by White Stone is more then enough to make a great fit.
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Their switches are cheap so sometimes the diode flickers. Overkill may be the best solution.
I'm not impressed with Whitestone at all. Their customer support is terrible and it's all off shore shipped and "supported". No phone support and rude, slow email support.
A wretched company to deal with, one of the worst.
Been there, done that... to hell with Whitestone.

Does the adhesive become stronger with more exposure time?
Super strong adhesive can be a problem in the future when you try to remove an old tempered glass screen protector.
I've heard horror stories where people have trouble with trying to chisel away at the old adhesive and glass mess. I wonder if their problem was over-curing the adhesive by using the light too long?
I went by the book for exposure curing time, and it was very easy to remove the cracked screen protector - even with a crack in it, I could still easily peel it off because the adhesive was willing to let go.
However, I've never tested this. But it just seems like the time limits are provided for a reason, and are not given in terms of "at least" but rather "for this long".

When it's cured it's cured. The polymerization is done. Under curing however would be an issue.
UV does degrade many materials over time but this isn't near a strong enough source and a few extra minutes is insignificant.
As the polymer adhesive ages it may degrade making removal more difficult than when it was first applied.
Personally I don't like this protector at all. It's a pain from start to finish including removal at times. My stupid cheap easy wet apply urethane screen protector has been on for over 9 months. It's kept the screen from being marred.
It's can be easily removed and is much easier to apply. Only $5 a pop. I still have 3 left because I never thought they be so easy to apply (expected to destroy one) and that even if the application went well it would only last 2 or months. Not.

I have the Whitestone Dome Glass on my s21U and got a chip on it yesterday and tried to take it off. It was a horror show and a large part of it stuck to the middle of the screen. I thought my phone was ruined. I had to take a hot hairdryer which softened the glue and slowly pick bits of it off. This is the first time I've ever had this happen after using many different UV protector on different phones! I did put a new one on but when I take this one off I'll be much more cautious to use a hairdryer and try and remove it all in one piece .

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I have the Whitestone Dome Glass on my s21U and got a chip on it yesterday and tried to take it off. It was a horror show and a large part of it stuck to the middle of the screen. I thought my phone was ruined. I had to take a hot hairdryer which softened the glue and slowly pick bits of it off. This is the first time I've ever had this happen after using many different UV protector on different phones! I did put a new one on but when I take this one off I'll be much more cautious to use a hairdryer and try and remove it all in one piece .
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That's nasty.
How long was it on?
99% Isopropyl alcohol be worth a shot but probably be ineffective.
Be real careful when using heat guns. I've used them a lot for electronic assembly and things can heat up quick, too quick.
The display is literally tens of thousands of heat sensitive semiconductors.
My solution is to use a case with slightly raised guards around the whole display. The Zizo Bolt has protected my 10+ very well. The Gorilla IQ Sheild has done the rest to protect the screen. The screen is fairly robust but needs protection from scratches. Urethane does a surprisingly good job at this. It's self healing to a certain extent so it actually looks better after a night's rest in areas of high usage ie the keyboard. Rather strange to observe.

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That's nasty.
How long was it on?
99% Isopropyl alcohol be worth a shot but probably be ineffective.
Be real careful when using heat guns. I've used them a lot for electronic assembly and things can heat up quick, too quick.
The display is literally tens of thousands of heat sensitive semiconductors.
My solution is to use a case with slightly raised guards around the whole display. The Zizo Bolt has protected my 10+ very well. The Gorilla IQ Sheild has done the rest to protect the screen. The screen is fairly robust but needs protection from scratches. Urethane does a surprisingly good job at this.
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It was only on for 3 weeks. I maybe didn't remove it properly as I just tried to lift it off rather than put some card or something under it and prise it off but as I said, I've never had any problems like that before with UV glue protectors, they always usually easily come off.

Batfink33 said:
It was only on for 3 weeks. I maybe didn't remove it properly as I just tried to lift it off rather than put some card or something under it and prise it off but as I said, I've never had any problems like that before with UV glue protectors, they always usually easily come off.
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The damage may have scored it leaving a weak spot.
Glass is a very strange substance; neither a true solid nor liquid. An amorphous solid.
It can behave in seemingly unpredictable ways. The Pascal's law applies to it. Glazer's can use this to their advantage to cut glass.