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Xperia TX(LT29I) sold in China and exported to other countries hardware configuration is consistent?
浪漫仲夏 said:
Xperia TX(LT29I) sold in China and exported to other countries hardware configuration is consistent?
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what do you mean by that?!!!!
Sony is not like Samsung to create different version of one damn phone, like Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of that toy, called S4!
so, except NETWORK, which i think is different in China and therefore there should be some changes is Radio in the phone, then the rest of the hardwares are the same....
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
danw_oz said:
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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Z1 is a USB 2 phone, so no.
danw_oz said:
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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One model supports hspa only, one supports lte for many many markets... and another model for another market.
Its to save money.
Plus look at LG. They have snapdragon 800 and they limit the bands on the lg g2... Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
expertzero1 said:
One model supports hspa only, one supports lte for many many markets... and another model for another market.
Its to save money.
Plus look at LG. They have snapdragon 800 and they limit the bands on the lg g2... Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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What to make 4 models is saving money when they only needed two, really in all reality only one would actually be required and allow the mobile providers to lock down if they wanted to.
Marketing, stamps for models, slight firmware changes... is not going to save money
danw_oz said:
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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Snap 800 support, but need be implemented.
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danw_oz said:
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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Sony's done something which they've always done! They made a HSPA+ model for markets which don't have LTE and an LTE model for those who do.. The internals are the same pretty much except for the radios... They've done this with the Z, ZU etc also..
Some of the specs I have found state that it does, others say it does not have an FM radio... Can anyone definitely confirm the availability of this feature?
Thank you for your answers!
No, Qualcom does not have radio in 820
Possible from samsung galaxy s10 exynos
also has dual gps.
GPS with aGPS, GLONASS, BeiDou,QZSS,Galileo, Dual-frequency GNSS
https://www.yugatech.com/mobile/sams...ats-different/
Anybody see the Snapdragon GPS specs yet? Hopefully dual-frequency with BCM47755 (or something else in that family that supports dual freqs...not sure if it was ever positively determines if all the chips in the family support dual frequency or not)...
AND, if so, hopefully it's enabled in the code!!!!
The Exynos GPS chip for the S10 has been discovered.... the same Broadcom BCM47752 that was in the S9. There is still no definitive info (that I know of, anyway) that tells whether the 47752 received dual band L1/L5 signals like the 47755. The Broadcom spec is ambiguous- the 4775x family paper talks about the 47755 and the 47758 having L1/L2, but has no such blurbs about the 47752/47754. In fact, it has no blurbs on them at all. Attempts to enable lane-level L1/L5 accuracy in the S9 have also not been successful as far as I am aware.
Of course this is NOT the Snapdragon spec I'm seeking- hopefully that will come in the next few days as US customers started to received their pre-orders.
Snapdragon Galaxy S10
I have received my Snapdragon Galaxy S10 and have installed GPS Test on it and only see L1 frequencies being used
djg8544 said:
I have received my Snapdragon Galaxy S10 and have installed GPS Test on it and only see L1 frequencies being used
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Version with snapdragon 855 in hong kong
it shows l5 or has dual gps.
In turn, huawei mate 20 / mate 20 pro
also has dual gps.
Only in applications you can not see l5.
And what's strange in gps 20 tests
represents great as the best
smartphone gps.
It shows the signal where other smartphones are
have a problem.
As if. not fully. he had a dual gps.
But it detects. faster. satellite. than other phones.
By comparison to professional devices, this is a top scorer.
It follows from mate 20 in some way
uses dual gps despite the applications
they do not show l5.
US?
Are you in the US and what carrier? BTW do you see Galileo satellites?
djg8544 said:
I have received my Snapdragon Galaxy S10 and have installed GPS Test on it and only see L1 frequencies being used
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S10 GPS
BillBelvin said:
Are you in the US and what carrier? BTW do you see Galileo satellites?
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I use ATT and I do see Galileo satellites using E1 frequency through GPS Test
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djg8544 said:
I use ATT and I do see Galileo satellites using E1 frequency through GPS Test
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I am located in DFW area here is a screenshot of GPS Test
https://imgur.com/vPBb6A7
Anybody else could understand which version of s10 can receive dual frequency GPS?
Thx
In what appears to be a reversal of expectations, the SnapDragon S10 (at least the Hong Kong Version- I would expect the U.S. and other SnapDragon devices to be the same) IS receiving L1 and L5 signals!! Nobody has tested accuracy in any app yet (as far as I know) to see if we are at the promised 30cm granularity. The Exynos version hasn't show L5 yet, based on the sample size of 1.
The author of the GPSTEST app has a great write up on all of this and keeps it updated as users supply their testing results. I highly recommend you check it out (and run GPSTEST and send him the results if you have an S10!)
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
[email protected] said:
In what appears to be a reversal of expectations, the SnapDragon S10 (at least the Hong Kong Version- I would expect the U.S. and other SnapDragon devices to be the same) IS receiving L1 and L5 signals!! Nobody has tested accuracy in any app yet (as far as I know) to see if we are at the promised 30cm granularity. The Exynos version hasn't show L5 yet, based on the sample size of 1.
The author of the GPSTEST app has a great write up on all of this and keeps it updated as users supply their testing results. I highly recommend you check it out (and run GPSTEST and send him the results if you have an S10!)
https://medium.com/@sjbarbeau/dual-frequency-gnss-on-android-devices-152b8826e1c
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Thanks, I don't have s10, yet. I'm waiting and searching to choose which version to buy, and double frq gnss is one of the most important spec I'm looking for...
mains75 said:
Thanks, I don't have s10, yet. I'm waiting and searching to choose which version to buy, and double frq gnss is one of the most important spec I'm looking for...
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you want to pay 1000$ for model S10, just to see on the screen with GPSTest app the font charters of L1 or L5? Something else maybe ?
No, I want to pay for dual freq GPS implemented in the apps that give ~30cm accuracy.
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No, I want to pay for dual freq GPS implemented in the apps that give ~30cm accuracy.
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now we can talk ...
into the smartphone market, there are for now, 3 chips to support dual band GNSS.
- Broadcom 47755
- Kirin 980
- Snapdragon 855
all we have proofs, using app like GPSTest for dual band support, but ... no measurements for cm accuracy from customers - users
USA Navstar (GPS) satellites with L5 freq. is under development until 2022. Only the L2 freq. is working a lot of years ago. So, if anyone want "cm accuracy" , can not rely on devices with L5 singals for now. Into the new future I believe everything will OK.
something else. Do you have hear about "Galileo 1 meter accuracy" ??? Is there any evidence about that also?
My opinion is "don't buy products before there are real measurements" from review sites or youtube channels. Unless, you have the spare money to do this job for the rest of us.
lneam said:
you want to pay 1000$ for model S10, just to see on the screen with GPSTest app the font charters of L1 or L5? Something else maybe ?
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Of course I want double freq to have Gps fix and good accuracy not just to say I have it... I'm not stupid...
P30 and P30 pro has dual gps,
S10e 9700 has dual gps.
NisseGurra said:
S10e 9700 has dual gps.
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Yes, currently the China versions of the S10 are the only ones proven to have dual GPS reception. I reckon it's just a firmware/software thing and hopefully Sammy will roll this out to the S10 units in the rest of the world.
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Yes, currently the China versions of the S10 are the only ones proven to have dual GPS reception. I reckon it's just a firmware/software thing and hopefully Sammy will roll this out to the S10 units in the rest of the world.
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I think the dual gps is an snapdragon 855 feature, so enyxos user will be out of luck tho.
I think that the snapdragon 855 has only dual gps.
In the softy, the Chinese market is now
I think you just need to root your s10
and copy the gps xml file from the Chinese market soft.
This option is only for s10 with snapdragon 855,
Exynos is not really dual gps,
just like it was from s9.
NisseGurra said:
I think the dual gps is an snapdragon 855 feature, so enyxos user will be out of luck tho.
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China/HK uses the SnapDragon 855. The Exynos models has an external GNSS chip- Broadcom 47752. It is still undetermined if that chip does dual frequency, although others in the 4775x family do.
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kriss3 said:
I think that the snapdragon 855 has only dual gps.
In the softy, the Chinese market is now
I think you just need to root your s10
and copy the gps xml file from the Chinese market soft.
This option is only for s10 with snapdragon 855,
Exynos is not really dual gps,
just like it was from s9.
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I won't be the first to try it , but if other root an S10 and can get dual freq GNSS to work (and find that apps actually achieve the 30cm resolution) then I'll give it a try!
Hi
I've seen that The pixel 4 phones is not advertised with wifi6/802,11ax capability.
However, the snapdragon 855 soc HAS wifi 6 capability.
However, the phones we've seen that use wifi6 today, Like Samsung S10, use a broadcom chip for wifi6. No SD855 phones today uses the socs wifi6 capability.
At the same time, the wifi6 certification program launched more or less at the same time as the pixel 4 launch (one day difference? Don't remember).
Can this just be a certification issue? So the Pixel 4 and other 855 phones will get wifi6 support via the 855SOC via a SW update?
It's REALLY weird that google launched a wifi6 mesh system but their phones won't get it? I REALLY hope wifi6 will be activated on pixel 4 at a later point.
Any ideas?
johnkristian said:
Hi
I've seen that The pixel 4 phones is not advertised with wifi6/802,11ax capability.
However, the snapdragon 855 soc HAS wifi 6 capability.
However, the phones we've seen that use wifi6 today, Like Samsung S10, use a broadcom chip for wifi6. No SD855 phones today uses the socs wifi6 capability.
At the same time, the wifi6 certification program launched more or less at the same time as the pixel 4 launch (one day difference? Don't remember).
Can this just be a certification issue? So the Pixel 4 and other 855 phones will get wifi6 support via the 855SOC via a SW update?
It's REALLY weird that google launched a wifi6 mesh system but their phones won't get it? I REALLY hope wifi6 will be activated on pixel 4 at a later point.
Any ideas?
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Google New mesh system is NOT wifi 6
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OK. Anyway, it still doesn't explain the 855 / wifi 6 situation
johnkristian said:
OK. Anyway, it still doesn't explain the 855 / wifi 6 situation
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Just cause the 855 is WiFi 6 capable doesn't mean they'll have it on.
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Well, obviously.
But it's still VERY strange.
johnkristian said:
Well, obviously.
But it's still VERY strange.
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Doesn't seem any more strange to me than the new Nest WiFi not supporting it.
Perhaps, just like 5G, they don't think its worth supporting it at this time.
https://9to5google.com/2019/10/17/pixel-4-5g-reason/
Pixel 4 uses the "Murata SS9709025" WIFI SoC, but we're (NetHunter & Nexmon devs) looking for more information about the chipset.
If someone could post a full "dmesg" and "modinfo wlan" and most logs available really so we may identify this chip.
Btw, Hei John K
Arw you
johnkristian said:
Hi
I've seen that The pixel 4 phones is not advertised with wifi6/802,11ax capability.
However, the snapdragon 855 soc HAS wifi 6 capability.
However, the phones we've seen that use wifi6 today, Like Samsung S10, use a broadcom chip for wifi6. No SD855 phones today uses the socs wifi6 capability.
At the same time, the wifi6 certification program launched more or less at the same time as the pixel 4 launch (one day difference? Don't remember).
Can this just be a certification issue? So the Pixel 4 and other 855 phones will get wifi6 support via the 855SOC via a SW update?
It's REALLY weird that google launched a wifi6 mesh system but their phones won't get it? I REALLY hope wifi6 will be activated on pixel 4 at a later point.
Any ideas?
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Are you sure? Because the S10 series have several version. Maybe the Exynos uses Broadcomm so there is nothing to port. The 855+ Samsung phones can be possible to port. But there is no dev who wants to deal with that.
kimocoder said:
Pixel 4 uses the "Murata SS9709025" WIFI SoC, but we're (NetHunter & Nexmon devs) looking for more information about the chipset.
If someone could post a full "dmesg" and "modinfo wlan" and most logs available really so we may identify this chip.
Btw, Hei John K
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Any updates on the mod?
The SD855 also supports 5G, but Pixels didn't support 5G until the Bramble.
V0latyle said:
The SD855 also supports 5G, but Pixels didn't support 5G until the Bramble.
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Naw, the modem is wrong. For the SD855/855+, Samsung gets shotgun by Qualcomm just to keep them in the US market. But it happens that Samsung uses another modem by Qualcomm or broadcomm. For example, all SD855 phones use the X24 LTE modem while 5G enabled SD855 phones use the x50 Modem. On the issue of sd855 that uses the WCN3990 Wi-Fi chip there is not a single phone with Wi-Fi 6. But wait there is more, some 700 series SOC does use the WC3990 Wi-Fi chip with Wi-Fi 6 but the catch is that that it's on another chip architecture. So porting is a issue, the Qualcomm blobs doesn't like that.
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borisSweden said:
Naw, the modem is wrong. For the SD855/855+, Samsung gets shotgun by Qualcomm just to keep them in the US market. But it happens that Samsung uses another modem by Qualcomm or broadcomm. For example, all SD855 phones use the X24 LTE modem while 5G enabled SD855 phones use the x50 Modem. On the issue of sd855 that uses the WC3990 Wi-Fi chip there is not a single phone with Wi-Fi 6. But wait there is more, some 700 series SOC does use the WC3990 Wi-Fi chip with Wi-Fi 6 but the catch is that that it's on another chip architecture. So porting is a issue, the Qualcomm blobs doesn't like that.
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Makes sense
V0latyle said:
Makes sense
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well after doing research for GNSS Galileo support for the Oneplus 3, it very clear Qualcomm added a back porting fail-safe on all their blobs. I made a suggestion if someone has the time and brain to make it work by taking a 2020 midclass chip from the 600 or 700 series.
You can install DeviceInfo HW to check if the hardware is there for wifi6 before trying out software to make it work. But then you can get to another issue of the right pin not being added, like FM radio for Snapdragon phones, the hardware is there but the OEM didnt pay the 1 cent for adding support.
Edit: WCN3990 is old old old chip used since the SD835. But we can add Bluetooth 5.1 instead.