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From WWDC Latest Iphone twice as quick apparently, has:-
3Mp camera, shoots video, - yawn
7.2Mbps HSDPA, MMS (if carrier supports it) woohoo
Voice control. (been there said it done it)
Built in Compass (not seen that in WM?)
Promised Battery life looks goog - 9 hrs wifi browsing!!!
Same old style, same old interface, all starting to look a bit "last years thing" to me still it is catching up with some features that WM phones have had for a while.
Mmmmm....
If you go line by line trying to match up features, you'll go nuts... not to mention you'll end up comparing to multiple different HTC/WM phones. And you'll still miss why the iPhone is such a success.
All I can say is the $99 3G model is very very appealing, if I wasn't on the plan of my life (SERO).
slick69 said:
If you go line by line trying to match up features, you'll go nuts... not to mention you'll end up comparing to multiple different HTC/WM phones. And you'll still miss why the iPhone is such a success.
All I can say is the $99 3G model is very very appealing, if I wasn't on the plan of my life (SERO).
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yup, i have been saying this for quite a while, i mean they say...
A can do this, B can do that and C can do this other thing... but the iPhone cant do all of them "thats fair...."
i really want to see the Pre vs iPhone duke out (i want to get a Pre but still have time to be converted cuz my contract isnt up in a couple of months)
I have to say one thing apple really did not think about the name here "iphone 3G S". wtf?!?! is S for anyway? second round? if so then just put a 2 at the end like most companies => HTC for example.
chris10230 said:
I have to say one thing apple really did not think about the name here "iphone 3G S". wtf?!?! is S for anyway? second round? if so then just put a 2 at the end like most companies => HTC for example.
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the 's' is for speed, since apps run 2x faster the made it 3GS...I agree though, lame name.
Im contemplating getting it though, as much as it pains me to say that.
I want the TP2, but not sure when the release date for AT&T is and I am scared my impatience may get the best of me!
wow! upgraded the OS and the phone runs faster, and some new/add features, and they calling it a NEW PHONE iphone 3Gs! no wonder iphone is for iDIOT! what do think the "i" in iphone stands for? i=iDIOT!
if they do this on windows mobiles, they will have a HUGE lawsuit on their ass!
upgraded Touchpro2 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' the TP2+ !
upgraded sony x1 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' Sony Xperia X2 !
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wow! upgraded the OS and the phone runs faster, and some new/add features, and they calling it a NEW PHONE iphone 3Gs! no wonder iphone is for iDIOT! what do think the "i" in iphone stands for? i=iDIOT!
if they do this on windows mobiles, they will have a HUGE lawsuit on their ass!
upgraded Touchpro2 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' the TP2+ !
upgraded sony x1 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' Sony Xperia X2 !
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I believe that with the upgrade, there are still some things that the iPhone3G still can not do. MMS is one I believe, and obviously the extended battery life would be another (among other things)
I noticed you are ATT, how did you get TP2, did you buy it from europe and unlock it for at&t?
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I believe that with the upgrade, there are still some things that the iPhone3G still can not do. MMS is one I believe, and obviously the extended battery life would be another (among other things)
I noticed you are ATT, how did you get TP2, did you buy it from europe and unlock it for at&t?
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i'm sure there' some features in wm6.5 that wm6.1 can not do, they dont call it a new phone just cus you upgraded the freaking OS with added features!
i'm sure if you upgrade your phone radio (rom), you might have better battery life, u still have the same old phone, NOT a new phone!
calling it a new phone, iphone 3Gs is false adversting!
As with all things apple, it is marketed so well, the point of my post was not to slag off the iphone, (it does after all have many things in its favour) but to point out that apple have an uncanny ability to add features that are old hat an most other platforms (not just WM) and sell them as in some way revolutionary.
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I believe that with the upgrade, there are still some things that the iPhone3G still can not do. MMS is one I believe, and obviously the extended battery life would be another (among other things)
I noticed you are ATT, how did you get TP2, did you buy it from europe and unlock it for at&t?
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i don't think the i in iphone is for idiot , i don't think its wrong for people to have them .
they are on the otherhand not my kind of phone lol . i like my fuze very much !
he never said he had a tp2 lol
Some of you guys are really reaching here. Upgrading a ROM leads to better battery life?
Also, don't forget that before 6.1, every new release required a new phone. I still have a WM5 Moto Q that Moto never upgraded to WM6.
Also, my expensive Touch Pro only records in crappy QCIF
Apple products are all about style and simplicity. Most are made so that your grandma can pickup and use them. If apple took the 3g and raised the price to 120 and called it jphone 3g, it would still sell more than any other smartphone because of the interface. FYI not an apple fanboy, I do own several windows mobile devices and it is my favorite platform. And think about it windows mobile and other os's are spread over several devices, If you want apple's os you only have the iphone, the ipod touch doesn't make cellular network calls.
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Some of you guys are really reaching here. Upgrading a ROM leads to better battery life?
Also, don't forget that before 6.1, every new release required a new phone. I still have a WM5 Moto Q that Moto never upgraded to WM6.
Also, my expensive Touch Pro only records in crappy QCIF
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not a rom, but a radio could give you better battery life / reception etc
pending on the ROM. that is why its good to read which radios have been tested =]
Apple is Great Marketing and medium products (it's not a flame, only reality).
10mins ago I see to TG5 about iPhone 3GS... I haven't see about other Device (only 10 seconds to Nokia and Omnia): Great Marketing!!!
They could sell jPhone without problems
Yeah, their marketing is what makes the difference.
They market things like MMS and Copy/Cut/Paste like they were big changes.
Does it run mulitple applications
Can the iPhone run multiple applications. I dont have much knowledge abt iPhone- Like I am listening to music, browsing wifi and suddenly receive call. While the call is getting recorded(call recorder) access word or excel file or even lookup to email or sms received and on hangup , the call the recorder stops- music continues and you can get back to browsing from where you left.
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Can the iPhone run multiple applications. I dont have much knowledge abt iPhone- Like I am listening to music, browsing wifi and suddenly receive call. While the call is getting recorded(call recorder) access word or excel file or even lookup to email or sms received and on hangup , the call the recorder stops- music continues and you can get back to browsing from where you left.
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No Call Recorder (that i know of) but everything else is possible on a stock iPhone.
there's no competition for the difference in plan rate if you scored sprint sero
even on my evdo htc mogul/titan 6800 the opera browser (turbo or mini socket/proxy) gives 7mbps for web page loading
i sense i'm not missing too much except more memory and some hard drive space should you drop the extra $100 for the 32gb iphone
but then again a 16gb microSD card is only $50
slendering down my brick with extended battery to match that of the iphone doesn't justify the price offset i receive for an outdated phone with cheap accessories
it does enough for a device in my pocket to keep me happy
but if money isn't an option...there seem to be just as good options in the wm market
about the only product i am really in desire of from "the other side" is one of their past mac bluetooth keyboards for my wm phone
how you like them apples
Truth is - price point is the key. Look at how many Tilt's were purchased and how many people joined this forum when ATT had them on sale from .01 to 99 dollars.
How do you think iphone 4g?
i think its time we make a off-topic iphone forum
I hav'nt gotten into the features, but I think it is a gorgeous looking device, even better than the previous ones. I'm sure it will have it's innovative features.
I thought that the iphone had a really great screen. I saw 2 people with an iphone and it seems so small. HD2 screen size is what iphone used to look like. Long live the 4.3" screen. My backlight is set to automatic to save battery life. Disable this feature and turn brightness all the way up to view the most beautiful display. I think it is better than my PC screen.
Anyway, whoever love iphone, I hope you are pleased. I'm very happy with HD2.
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It's got a nice body, but the OS sucks.
+ long battery life
+ thin form factor
+ impressive screen resolution and pixel density
+ excellent camera for stills
+ excellent video recording capability (720p)
-relatively small screen compared to the competition
-nonremovable battery
-microSIM
-nonstandard plug for charge and sync
-the iOS
obstrusive notifications (this is just horrible)
home screen is useless; just an application launcher
no native file system
no smart dialing
no fullscreen mode in browser
no text reflow in browser
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rules how to hold your device?
that's horrible
It's an Apple. That pretty much sums up the entire device.
It's filled with lies. [Fake Multi-Tasking, etc..]
It still has the same 2007 "simplistic newb" gui.
It has a fruit logo on it.
It has awesome sound quality for the 26 seconds of call time you get [before Service loss].
Apple blames at&t for most of the iPhones flaws, even the prior iPhone, yet the only "fully-functional" hardware is the new a4 chip [actually pretty sweet], the new screen [limited time], and the camera(s).
The antenna, Wi-Fi service, and basic functionality are all flaws of Apples naive mentality.
Did you know?
At first, Apple blamed at&t for the instant loss of service?
When you simply hold your device for about 30 seconds, your signal strength can actually go from full bars, to none.
How is at&t at fault? (Sounds like some of the famous Apple denial we all know and love.)
Just easy to use with no special functions
And iAd. OMG Normal user do not want advertisments in his phone...
Proof to backup my Signal Loss Statement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTBERdspI90
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkxdk9zpS98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5X5R34eWc
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Did you know?
At first, Apple blamed at&t for the instant loss of service?
When you simply hold your device for about 30 seconds, your signal strength can actually go from full bars, to none.
How is at&t at fault? (Sounds like some of the famous Apple denial we all know and love.)
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I hear ya. This one coworker of mine got an EVO (while I have the HD2) and I asked her why she switch from AT&T to Sprint. She told me that AT&T service was horrible and it kept disconnecting her and speak nothing bad about the iphone; only the AT&T service. I wanted to slap her there and then, but I realized that women are just generally naive and stupid when it comes to things like this.
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It's an Apple. That pretty much sums up the entire device.
It's filled with lies. [Fake Multi-Tasking, etc..]
It still has the same 2007 "simplistic newb" gui.
It has a fruit logo on it.
It has awesome sound quality for the 26 seconds of call time you get [before Service loss].
Apple blames at&t for most of the iPhones flaws, even the prior iPhone, yet the only "fully-functional" hardware is the new a4 chip [actually pretty sweet], the new screen [limited time], and the camera(s).
The antenna, Wi-Fi service, and basic functionality are all flaws of Apples naive mentality.
Did you know?
At first, Apple blamed at&t for the instant loss of service?
When you simply hold your device for about 30 seconds, your signal strength can actually go from full bars, to none.
How is at&t at fault? (Sounds like some of the famous Apple denial we all know and love.)
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Your post nearly only consists of fallacies (incorrect argumentation).
This post however sums up the facts very well.
I know, I was just being an ass.
I tried to mirror myself as an Apple Fanboi would to a Microsoft Product.
Example:
Did you know?
-Microsofts Windows is the most virus ridden operating system of all time?
-Apple has no viruses.
Clearly idiot speak. I didn't intend for the whole post to be taken seriously.
Okay no problem then!
iphone 4
its definitely a beautiful phone.
echow said:
its definitely a beautiful phone.
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Until you have to put a bumper on it to use it and the glass is cracked.
lude219 said:
I hear ya. This one coworker of mine got an EVO (while I have the HD2) and I asked her why she switch from AT&T to Sprint. She told me that AT&T service was horrible and it kept disconnecting her and speak nothing bad about the iphone; only the AT&T service. I wanted to slap her there and then, but I realized that women are just generally naive and stupid.
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I fixed your post...
KIDDING, just kidding. I love and respect the ladies
[Metaphore]Put an awful dress to a very nice and sexy stupid blondie...[/Metaphore]
Of course it is a solution Steve say so.
e mail me on how the ios for 4g sucks, i would really like to here what you have to say, i have both 4g and and captivate s samsung galazy and while the 3g and 2g and by far the slowest phones ever the 3gs is a huge increase in speed while the 4g just doubles it all the way around, no lag what so ever no matter how many tweaks mods and custome themes i put on it, while all other phones i have has major lag in it, my email is [email protected] and i would love to here what you have to say on this matter cause i really disagree and im in titled to my a pion just as you are so in for me, but if you don't have the iphone and your going on just what you seen or may herd then i think your just pretty jealous of the phone and sry for my spelling i never paid good attention in English
I do hear another lately my phone my smartphone mein Handy. They have stopped to be phones since the touchscreen was implanted to them. after this they are made to multimedia devices that can make calls too. Nothing else. don't you agree?
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Despite whats its secondary functions can achieve, it is, for all intents and purposes a phone.
Mein Handy does sound kinda effete doncha think....
I simply call my Note, my love...
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Despite whats its secondary functions can achieve, it is, for all intents and purposes a phone.
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The phone part of my Note is a tertiary function. Compared to browsing, media playback, messagingn and social networking, I rarely use it as a phone.
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The phone part of my Note is a tertiary function. Compared to browsing, media playback, messagingn and social networking, I rarely use it as a phone.
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Let me guess, you went to the local 'The Phonehouse' and told them you wish to buy a new phone....You didn't ask for a media playback, messaginng and social networking device that also allows you to make phonecalls.....
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The phone part of my Note is a tertiary function. Compared to browsing, media playback, messagingn and social networking, I rarely use it as a phone.
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Same here. I was never the type of person to have long phone conversations anyway, but I use my phone less and less for phone calls these days.
What used to require a phone call, or multiple calls, is now usually done using sms, email, facebook messages, online chat, whatsapp etc.
If you wanted to organise to go out tonight or something, it used to take maybe 3 or 4 phone calls to check who was available, when and where everyone could, or wanted to go etc., now you can do a group message or chat and get it organised with a lot less time and effort and you don't have to actually catch someone when they are free to talk.
Sms still uses the phone network though, but it's use is declining due to most people having Whatsapp, facebook messaging etc. available on their mobile and costing less. But we'll still need the data network to remain.
In regards to name, I, and most people I know, just call them "mobiles" now, which is still a shortened version of "mobile phone" which everyone is aware of, but for anyone who just landed on the planet, there is no phone reference there.
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Let me guess, you went to the local 'The Phonehouse' and told them you wish to buy a new phone....You didn't ask for a media playback, messaginng and social networking device that also allows you to make phonecalls.....
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Actually, I bought my Note online. But to address your point, if I were to go to the local T-Mobile shop, I'd ask for a new "mobieltje", which translates to "mobile". The phone part of mobile phone is almost a vestige, especially with VOIP & Whatsapp becoming more popular. Although it is sometimes called a smartphone, so I guess there's that.
Still, if I had to choose between dropping the phone network or the data connection on my Note... well, you can guess my answer!
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I do hear another lately my phone my smartphone mein Handy. They have stopped to be phones since the touchscreen was implanted to them. after this they are made to multimedia devices that can make calls too. Nothing else. don't you agree?
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no
well even though i saw years ago a guy hammer a nail with his motorola brick phone he didnt refer to it as a hammer..... it is what it is..some just dont add the pda side to it when referring to it...
I wasn't talking only about the NOTE but for all Multimedia devices out there. and quoting Wikipedia
Mobile phone
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"Cell Phone" redirects here. For the film, see Cell Phone (film). For the Handphone film, see Handphone (film). A mobile phone (also known as a cellular phone, cell phone and a hand phone) is a device that can make and receive telephone calls over a radio link whilst moving around a wide geographic area. It does so by connecting to a cellular network provided by a mobile phone operator, allowing access to the public telephone network. By contrast, a cordless telephone is used only within the short range of a single, private base station. In addition to telephony, modern mobile phones also support a wide variety of other services such as text messaging, MMS, email, Internet access, short-range wireless communications (infrared, Bluetooth), business applications, gaming and photography. Mobile phones that offer these and more general computing capabilities are referred to as smartphones
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taking the last few words of it REFERRED TO AS smartphones. they have nothing to do with the mobile devices, they just got the word Phone on their name because of the pre-evolution state of been. as you would say the human race, apes. we did may evolve from them but we are a new species in the evolution Lader.
because their purpose of the device isn't anymore to call someone, or send a SMS. and this wasn't enough for you just thing the
reason you have bought your last multimedia device. was it is the good quality phone calls? was it the better signal reception? or was it the keyboard layout for better SMS writing? or was it the bigger display to see movies/webbrowsing or the better cpu-gpu (soc) for better gaming?
so now can you see the whole picture?
or am I blind?
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Yeah it's really a phone
Its a phone... If it couldnt make calls I would not have bought it. A 5.3 inch tablet is lame. We can call it a....smartphone!
They aren't, on all the adverts in the uk, samsung are calling it a phablet, which is what it is.
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They aren't, on all the adverts in the uk, samsung are calling it a phablet, which is what it is.
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I totally agree, I could totally phap to my fab Note.
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If it did not have the phone ability's, I would not buy it, would anyone else ?
very few I guess.
phone or not
my NOTE for me has got the AXE EFFECT
Whenever I take out my Note anybody around(especially Girls) gets her attention immediately towards me.
And believe me, I am making the most of it ;D
In samsung's web site you'll find 3 sections : smartphones, tablets and note. One thing I'm sure of : it's a unique piece of technology
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For me it's a smartphone because although I use the phone part less and less it is still important to me. Yes I chose the Note because of all it's features (big screen, connectivity, office capabilities...). Nonetheless the phone functionality is a basic requirement. If the note did not come with the phone functionality I would not even have considered buying it. No phone is a no go, I absolutely need a device that can make phone calls.
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It is a phone. I spend between an hour and four hours every day using it as ... a phone!
The fact that I can do a great deal more with it, and it regularly replaces the need for a camera, mp3 player, kindle, video recorder and even a laptop, is a massive bonus, and the reason I bought it.
But it's still a phone!
I recall a friend of mine telling me his son had a new smart phone. He used every single function on it apart from the phone itself! That was because he had no social life ...
I don't call my Note a phone (even though I use it as one!).
It's My Preciousssss.
I have a note 9 on Verizon and have noticed that the video quality from my phone to any iPhone Stinks... Pixated and Def not HD...
Any way around this other than using a different chat client?
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techjunkie25 said:
I have a note 9 on Verizon and have noticed that the video quality from my phone to any iPhone Stinks... Pixated and Def not HD...
Any way around this other than using a different chat client?
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Is this the same whether you're on WI-FI,or a data connection?
Perhaps the resolution depends on which VZW Data plan you're on &/or,if your high-speed cap has been reached for the billing period?
IDK if the different resolutions on the various data plans apply to video chat clients,just tossin' around the possibilities..........
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Is this the same whether you're on WI-FI,or a data connection?
Perhaps the resolution depends on which VZW Data plan you're on &/or,if your high-speed cap has been reached for the billing period?
IDK if the different resolutions on the various data plans apply to video chat clients,just tossin' around the possibilities..........
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Yes, no matter if on wifi or cellular. Video viewed on my note 9 is amazing.. Thinking it had to do with some kind of bs compression that vzw applies... Photos on the other hand are crystal clear.
Just really frustrating to have a 1200.00 phone that I can't share HD video with anyone else.
I've even lowered the quality below HD and it still pixelates and looks like garbage
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Yes, no matter if on wifi or cellular. Video viewed on my note 9 is amazing.. Thinking it had to do with some kind of bs compression that vzw applies... Photos on the other hand are crystal clear.
Just really frustrating to have a 1200.00 phone that I can't share HD video with anyone else.
I've even lowered the quality below HD and it still pixelates and looks like garbage
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Not knowing which app you're using,but,it sounds app-related,perhaps it has to do with a size limitation on the chat client & video quality is affected.
Just taking guesses here,hoping someone will chime in with a solid explanation.
I'm assuming you are sending them an MMS - if so, they will always look crappy!
If you had an iPhone before as well, you would have been using iMessage. That system will allow much higher quality images than an MMS will, but obviously it's limited to iOS.
For Android, you'd have to use something like WhatsApp or similar (and have your friends use it too)
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I have a note 9 on Verizon and have noticed that the video quality from my phone to any iPhone Stinks... Pixated and Def not HD...
Any way around this other than using a different chat client?
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Yes, no matter if on wifi or cellular. Video viewed on my note 9 is amazing.. Thinking it had to do with some kind of bs compression that vzw applies... Photos on the other hand are crystal clear.
Just really frustrating to have a 1200.00 phone that I can't share HD video with anyone else.
I've even lowered the quality below HD and it still pixelates and looks like garbage
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has nothing to do with the phone. just share videos via links. you could be on a google,one plus...etc and it would all be the same.
id be tempted to tell you to sell your phone for thinking its a device issue since it makes as much sense than thinking it was a phone problem....lol
just use samsung link sharing when you open the video, then press the share icon.
but you should definitely return the phone :cyclops:
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I have a note 9 on Verizon and have noticed that the video quality from my phone to any iPhone Stinks... Pixated and Def not HD...
Any way around this other than using a different chat client?
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Are you talking about SMS? If so, it pretty much compresses your video to a 10 mb file. As you can imagine, that would give you about 1 second of HD video. Any more than that, compression kicks in. The longer the video, the heavier the compression/loss of resolution. SMS is a technology from 20 years ago, it was never meant for this. They pushed it to being able to send decent quality photos, and that's about as good as you're going to get. Apple's iMessage does not use sms for iphone to iphone texting, so it may avoid the compression issue, I'm not sure. And carriers are doing away with SMS, and moving to RCS, which may help this as well.
Point is, if you are sending video over SMS, don't. The issue you are talking about has nothing to do with your phone or any phone. It has to do with limitations of SMS.
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has nothing to do with the phone. just share videos via links. you could be on a google,one plus...etc and it would all be the same.
id be tempted to tell you to sell your phone for thinking its a device issue since it makes as much sense than thinking it was a phone problem....lol
just use samsung link sharing when you open the video, then press the share icon.
but you should definitely return the phone :cyclops:
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I completely understand it's a network compression issue with vzw, and not a device issue.
I love my phone but I need to have a native way to send hd videos... So either way, selling it might be the solution.
The problem that I have is that I would have to convince my bosses to use the new app, as I use my phone to document structural issues and send them to their respective management reps.
This will be nothing short of a miracle.
Why would vzw sell a Ferrari of a device, but only let it in the granny lane capabilities wise
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I completely understand it's a network compression issue with vzw, and not a device issue.
I love my phone but I need to have a native way to send hd videos... So either way, selling it might be the solution.
The problem that I have is that I would have to convince my bosses to use the new app, as I use my phone to document structural issues and send them to their respective management reps.
This will be nothing short of a miracle.
Why would vzw sell a Ferrari of a device, but only let it in the granny lane capabilities wise
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mms videos and pictures always have been this way.
but seriously have your tried samsung link sharing?
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Why would vzw sell a Ferrari of a device, but only let it in the granny lane capabilities wise
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SMS is SMS, has nothing to do with Verizon. It's not a network compression issue, its the limitation of the SMS protocol itself. You get high speed LTE with verizon, right? Verizon does not limit you from using your LTE connection for Whatsapp for example. You choose to use SMS, therefore you have to play by the rules of SMS. Again, this has nothing to do with the carrier. To further expand your analogy, that's like you buying a Ferrari and never taking it outside the confines of New York City. Your car can hit 200 mph, but you're crawling along at 10 mph. If your job requires you to send HD video to iphones and you know that iphone to iphone there is no issue, and you can't use any other app besides text apps, you probably have no choice but to get an iphone. Perhaps this will resolve when Verizon finally activates RCS messaging instead of SMS, as Tmobile is starting to do, but knowing Verizon, you'll be waiting a while. And I don't know that RCS will solve your problem, you'll have to look into it's limitations and when Verizon will actually enable it.
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SMS is SMS, has nothing to do with Verizon. It's not a network compression issue, its the limitation of the SMS protocol itself. You get high speed LTE with verizon, right? Verizon does not limit you from using your LTE connection for Whatsapp for example. You choose to use SMS, therefore you have to play by the rules of SMS. Again, this has nothing to do with the carrier. To further expand your analogy, that's like you buying a Ferrari and never taking it outside the confines of New York City. Your car can hit 200 mph, but you're crawling along at 10 mph. If your job requires you to send HD video to iphones and you know that iphone to iphone there is no issue, and you can't use any other app besides text apps, you probably have no choice but to get an iphone. Perhaps this will resolve when Verizon finally activates RCS messaging instead of SMS, as Tmobile is starting to do, but knowing Verizon, you'll be waiting a while. And I don't know that RCS will solve your problem, you'll have to look into it's limitations and when Verizon will actually enable it.
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samsung link sharing to the rescue. yeah its 2 steps more than just adding a file to a text but it sure gets the job done quickly. guess g drive or onedrive can basically do the same thing.
bober10113 said:
samsung link sharing to the rescue. yeah its 2 steps more than just adding a file to a text but it sure gets the job done quickly. guess g drive or onedrive can basically do the same thing.
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I got to start using that more often. I remember using Samsung link sharing on my S7 edge. But since almost forgot about it.
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Samsung Galaxy note 9 for best full screen video watching experience
Everyone i have found that the note 9 video watching experience in full screen mode is crappy and i have also found an solution for that
Step 1 is to turn on color adjustment and select personalized color option and complete the table.
This will make the washed away red colors in your full screen mode the way you see the color in any other mode
Step 2 is enable the developer options an turn on disable hardware overlay,
This will make the low light quality of the full screen mode 10 times better when watching video
Also applies for the gallery
Thats all hope this was useful for those of you whom watch video on full screen mode and have bad video quality and colors on Samsung phones,.
Thank you, the solution is great, I think it will work great.
It can be an Apple problem as most videos from diferent androids look crap on my iphone , even though the video is sharp on my macbook pro , could be anoyher ios 13 bug as there are alot still not fixed, iphone owners these days seem to be only beta testers for apple , something you dont expect with a 1500 phone ( yes i have both iphone 11 pro and note 9 and 10+ also an old nexus 6 )
The M20P is a great phone in many ways but I'm throwing in the towel. At this point I really wish I had held onto my P20P.
I can't trust this phone as a daily driver because of intermittent issues where phone calls go straight into voicemail without the phone ever ringing. It's not like I'm missing the calls because multiple people have reported that when they called it went straight to voicemail with no ringing.
There was some theorizing in a separate thread that the issue might be due to a compatibility issue with the T-Mobile network here in the United States (where the M20P isn't officially sold or supported) but I have found owners in other countries complaining about the same problem .
I've tried numerous fixes from experimenting with the APN and network settings, turning off raise to wake and voice answering settings, using performance mode, using Shortcut Maker to disable the hidden Wi-Fi calls menu, turning off power optomization for all apps, giving call related apps unlimited data access, disabling Power Genie with ADB--and every time it seems like the problem might be fixed it eventually happens again.
I previously owned both the M10P and P20P and never ran across the issue on either phone. I'm not sure if this is happening because of MIUI 9 or the way Huawei is implementing Android Pie or if it is only specific to this model but as much as I like the M20P I can't use it as my daily driver if I can't trust it to ring every time I receive a call.
I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, One Plus or Google Pixels so I'm looking at probably getting a Xiaomi MI 9 and relegating this to the back up phone status currently occupied by my Mix 2S.
Maybe the problem will get fixed in the 9.1 update but I can't keep missing calls.
jhs39 said:
The M20P is a great phone in many ways but I'm throwing in the towel. At this point I really wish I had held onto my P20P.
I can't trust this phone as a daily driver because of intermittent issues where phone calls go straight into voicemail without the phone ever ringing. It's not like I'm missing the calls because multiple people have reported that when they called it went straight to voicemail with no ringing.
There was some theorizing in a separate thread that the issue might be due to a compatibility issue with the T-Mobile network here in the United States (where the M20P isn't officially sold or supported) but I have found owners in other countries complaining about the same problem .
I've tried numerous fixes from experimenting with the APN and network settings, turning off raise to wake and voice answering settings, using performance mode, using Shortcut Maker to disable the hidden Wi-Fi calls menu, turning off power optomization for all apps, giving call related apps unlimited data access, disabling Power Genie with ADB--and every time it seems like the problem might be fixed it eventually happens again.
I previously owned both the M10P and P20P and never ran across the issue on either phone. I'm not sure if this is happening because of MIUI 9 or the way Huawei is implementing Android Pie or if it is only specific to this model but as much as I like the M20P I can't use it as my daily driver if I can't trust it to ring every time I receive a call.
I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, One Plus or Google Pixels so I'm looking at probably getting a Xiaomi MI 9 and relegating this to the back up phone status currently occupied by my Mix 2S.
Maybe the problem will get fixed in the 9.1 update but I can't keep missing calls.
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I do also Miss calls. And I can't get Google voice to work, and use it for voicemail. So sometimes I don't even get notification of new voicemail too. Same here, T-Mobile US. I'm thinking of trading up, but really waiting for the upcoming 5g phones.
For me, it's not a deal breaker. But an inconvenience. Might trade my son-in-law for his 6t.
I hate to do it. Because everything about the performance is great. I love the camera...... Ugh.
Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Afaik, this has never happened to me or anyone I know with the M20P. But we also weren't affected by the infamous iPhone Death Grip here in Sweden, probably because our mobile networks are decently stable.
No issues here on Rogers in Canada. Sorry to hear that.
That's also a deal breaker for me. If it can't make and receive phone calls, she's gotta go.
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No issues here on Rogers in Canada. Sorry to hear that.
That's also a deal breaker for me. If it can't make and receive phone calls, she's gotta go.
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Must be related to the network not the phone...either the band it's on in your area, or the communication with the tower.
While most of us in countries where the phone is sold have problems with notifications (EMUI 9.1....I hope that will solve them...) I NEVER missed a call. And my provider (Videotron) has agreements with 3 more for coverage, so I jump a lot between bands and carriers when I travel.
Considering you have no recourse in US, I would just give up and get something more mainstream. 6T might be good idea.
I can make phone calls and 95% of the time I receive them fine. But the other 5% is driving me crazy ?.
The other day I had to call Amazon customer service The website said the call was connected but my phone never rang. I canceled the call and clicked for them to call me back and the same thing happened twice more-the Amazon website said the call was currently connected but my phone never rang, there's nothing in the call history and no voicemail notification.
I reboot my phone and there's suddenly 3 missed calls and a voice mail notification and when I click for Amazon to call me again the phone rings immediately.
I hadn't missed a call for weeks before that.
Maybe I shouldn't have screwed around with manually flashing updates. It was never a problem with the M10P or P20P but since the updates for this phone aren't locked to the specific hardware version it's not the same as before and the phone always shows up as uncertified which never happened on the other phones.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Afaik, this has never happened to me or anyone I know with the M20P. But we also weren't affected by the infamous iPhone Death Grip here in Sweden, probably because our mobile networks are decently stable.
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or maybe we didn't held the phone wrong
You should try a factory reset as a last resort first
what firmware version are you on? M2p here in the states and have had zero problems here
I was on one of the versions with the April security patch. I did a factory reset and e-recovery to the latest approved version for my model which is 210 with the March security patch but it didn't make any difference. I haven't had any calls yet to miss but I couldn't get text messages to set up my Amazon and Chase apps until after rebooting the phone which is a different symptom of the same issue. I was sending and receiving texts earlier this morning with no issues. I had to reboot about 4 hours later.
I have the LYA-L09 version from the UK. I don't think It should make a difference but maybe the international or Canadian versions would work better with T-Mobile in the US. Band support isn't an issue but Huawei did something new with this phone where the custom partition (which contains carrier and region specific software) is separate from the rest of the firmware which is why the same firmware versions can be manually flashed across all non-Chinese models.
The new custom partition might be causing issues with missed calls and notifications that some people like me are experiencing.
On earlier Huawei phones removing specific apps from battery optimization was enough to ensure that notifications from those apps were delivered quickly but a really common complaint with many M20P owners is that doing that no longer works. Some people don't get any notifications from certain apps unless the display is on and others need to reboot their phones when they suspect they have missed notifications--especially from SMS.
I didn't come across this missing calls issue but there is a bunch of other annoyances that putting me off this phone. To start with, it disappointed me straight away from day one due to simple, unexpected reason - inability to unlocked it at first-second-third attempt with in-screen fingerprint sensor. It was like a sobering slap to the face. Believe me or not but this fancy feature was one of the buying point. Seriously, that fingerprint reader seems works only at the time of first set up . Next day during the phone normal use with clean screen with no screen protector the most common scenario - unlocked with face recognition after 4 failed fingerprint attempt. Seriously, the first "date" with this beautiful phone was ruined straight away!! Further - more "minor" issues like tons of accidental screenshots in my gallery due to improper buttons position, inferior sound from the speakers (coming from Pixel 3) - acceptable at max volume only for me, useless AOD, inability to wake up the phone with double tap, no notifications issue (due to too long (!) operator name as I figured out later), no Google Feed out-of-the-box for my region, poor tactile engine (still can't feel that it's even here compared to iPhones or Pixel 3), camera inconsistency (too many out of focus, blurry shots, bad selfies, poor low light video).... Basically the only things forced to keep me this phone are great battery life, versatile camera, cool unique back design. I understand that there is no perfect phone for sure BUT there are far too many negative bullet points for this one considering the price I paid for it. Frankly, it is certainly not a over $1000 phone at all. If I was aware of all above-mentioned issues, I would't pay more than $500 for it. Sure I have got some quite stunning shots from it BUT everything else must be up for the price as well! So I gave up and put it on sale as well. Sorry Huawei, try harder next time.
Boo hoo.
WarVic said:
I didn't come across this missing calls issue but there is a bunch of other annoyances that putting me off this phone. To start with, it disappointed me straight away from day one due to simple, unexpected reason - inability to unlocked it at first-second-third attempt with in-screen fingerprint sensor. It was like a sobering slap to the face. Believe me or not but this fancy feature was one of the buying point. Seriously, that fingerprint reader seems works only at the time of first set up . Next day during the phone normal use with clean screen with no screen protector the most common scenario - unlocked with face recognition after 4 failed fingerprint attempt. Seriously, the first "date" with this beautiful phone was ruined straight away!! Further - more "minor" issues like tons of accidental screenshots in my gallery due to improper buttons position, inferior sound from the speakers (coming from Pixel 3) - acceptable at max volume only for me, useless AOD, inability to wake up the phone with double tap, no notifications issue (due to too long (!) operator name as I figured out later), no Google Feed out-of-the-box for my region, poor tactile engine (still can't feel that it's even here compared to iPhones or Pixel 3), camera inconsistency (too many out of focus, blurry shots, bad selfies, poor low light video).... Basically the only things forced to keep me this phone are great battery life, versatile camera, cool unique back design. I understand that there is no perfect phone for sure BUT there are far too many negative bullet points for this one considering the price I paid for it. Frankly, it is certainly not a over $1000 phone at all. If I was aware of all above-mentioned issues, I would't pay more than $500 for it. Sure I have got some quite stunning shots from it BUT everything else must be up for the price as well! So I gave up and put it on sale as well. Sorry Huawei, try harder next time.
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I've never had any of those problems although the AOD display does seem to bug some people who are used to what Samsung or Apple does with it.
I think the Pixels are among the worst phones on the market. They easily list for twice what they are worth, have worst build quality than a $200 Xiaomi phone, run too hot, suffer serious hardware failure within 2 years in staggering numbers and every generation of Pixel devices to date has had significant hardware and software problems that the tech press ignores.
I really like this phone a lot. The build quality is fantastic. It takes great pictures and everything runs smooth and fast without the phone ever running hot (unlike Google phones which have been running in performance mode by default since the Nexus 5X). Battery life is great. My LG display (you know--the one that was supposedly defective?) is gorgeous.
But I can't deal with the missed calls anymore. I'm sure it could be fixed with a software update but after 6 months I'm not confident that a fix is ever going to come.
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I've never had any of those problems although the AOD display does seem to bug some people who are used to what Samsung or Apple does with it.
I think the Pixels are among the worst phones on the market. They easily list for twice what they are worth, have worst build quality than a $200 Xiaomi phone, run too hot, suffer serious hardware failure within 2 years in staggering numbers and every generation of Pixel devices to date has had significant hardware and software problems that the tech press ignores.
I really like this phone a lot. The build quality is fantastic. It takes great pictures and everything runs smooth and fast without the phone ever running hot (unlike Google phones which have been running in performance mode by default since the Nexus 5X). Battery life is great. My LG display (you know--the one that was supposedly defective?) is gorgeous.
But I can't deal with the missed calls anymore. I'm sure it could be fixed with a software update but after 6 months I'm not confident that a fix is ever going to come.
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
So.... I too have abandoned the phone. I love it. It was a beast with battery and camera and speed. But.... missing calls has cost me a vacation that my timeshare had called and I didn't get the trade for the time. And timeshares can be finnickey to get a trade for the area/time you want.
Anyway. I ended up trading to my son-in-law for the oneplus 6t since its sold by Tmobile and should have any missed calls. He got a hell of a phone for the trade. Oh well.....
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
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I have owned Nexus and Pixel phones. I definitely know what I am talking about. The Nexus devices had much more premium build quality than the Pixel line and the phones were much cheaper.
Just go to the Official Google Pixel Support site and read the posts from the many owners experiencing serious issues with their phones. That's pretty much the only place people can find accurate information about Pixel phones because the tech press holds Google to a much lower standard than it does Samsung, Apple, Huawei, or Xiaomi. The only company that gets a similar treatment to Google is One Plus. The official One Plus support site has so many reports of issues everyday that after a couple hours all of the posts that had been visible are completely buried under the tidal wave of new posts.
The difference is that the majority of issues One Plus owners report are software related because the coding on One Plus phones is inept and the majority of reported Pixel problems are hardware related.
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So.... I too have abandoned the phone. I love it. It was a beast with battery and camera and speed. But.... missing calls has cost me a vacation that my timeshare had called and I didn't get the trade for the time. And timeshares can be finnickey to get a trade for the area/time you want.
Anyway. I ended up trading to my son-in-law for the oneplus 6t since its sold by Tmobile and should have any missed calls. He got a hell of a phone for the trade. Oh well.....
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I am not a fan of One Plus but I'm sure you won't have an issue with missed calls. If you have a T-Mobile One Plus instead of an unlocked one you get far less frequent updates because T-Mobile is trying not to release Oxygen updates that introduce new bugs. I don't think T-Mobile knew what they were getting into before they decided to carry those phones.
I got my MI 9. It's not as nice as the M20P obviously but it's a good value which is what Xiaomi is known for. I'm also getting all my calls, texts and notifications with zero problems and VoLTE works.
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
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Looks to me you're the only one who doesn't know what he's talking about...plus you might wanna try to be more considerate when you post here. No need for personal baseless attacks.
Pixel 3 is an outdated phone with an excellent camera app and timely updates. That's ALL. Had one, ditched it for the Mate 20 pro (in before the personal attack that "you don't know what you're talking about").
I can also ask you how did you get your Mate 20 pro to become "hot as hell after just a half an hour driving with GPS app running". I took 4-5 hour trips with GPS on, the only slight warm area was the wireless charging one, as the phone sat in a holder with wireless charging.
Not sure what point you are trying to prove (if any) but you haven't convinced anyone.
Maybe this will:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/04/29/doesnt-sound-like-google-sold-very-many-pixel-3-phones/
have you tried using a fresh new sim card?