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Hi XDians,
First little background, I live in India. I had oneplus x(ONYX) which i dropped and it didn't survive. I wanted to buy oneplus 3T. So i started surfing for ads on olx(a website to buy or sell stuff just like local ebay). So i got a deal that i was offered chinese version of oneplus 3T(A3010) at less rates.
I have few questions. I wanted to ask to if should i go for this? and whats difference between Chinese version and International version? would this phone be compatible with bands of Indian operators in India?
A Chinese version comes with an H2OS rather than OOS, which is adapted to comply with Chinese law, but IIRC you can flash OOS on a A3010 just like regular 3T.
About compatibility with operators - look up at https://willmyphonework.net/
Dear community,
I just bought a Mi 8 online. Unfortunately, after the purchase I read about the new rules Xiaomi made for Global and Chines versions of their phones.
I then checked what I bought and sadly it is Chinese Version with "official Global ROM and OTA updates".
I assume that the bootloader will be unlocked, which ist not so nice for some apps.
But what I am more concerned about is the question if I will brick the phone if I try to upgrade to MIUI 10 Global (which I think I will but please correct me if I'm wrong)
Are there any disadvantages in just using the Chinese ROM (english language would be fine for me)?
So would you think, it will be better to return that device and buy a Global version instead? (I bought on AliExpress and its not delivered yet)
Thank you very much and kind regards,
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You can update to global MIUI 10 from OTA with no problem, i have done the same yesterday. The only thing you can't do is relock your bootloader
Thank you, roccovite, I didn't know that
Do you know if purchases in Google Play also work?
I think I would have to try, if my banking app will work too, even with unlocked boot loader. But I think I haven't locked the boot loader in my Redmi 3 pro neither and everything works.
Hi friends
I want to buy Mi8 in the next few days, In fact, this will be my first experience with Xiaomi devices, and frankly, I'm a bit afraid.
I did many web searches, I found that this problem is very widespread and it happens to many people, and this scared me frankly.
Is there a way to avoid this problem?, can I know if the phone is "really" Global, or Chinese, or -As in your case above- "Chinese Version with official Global ROM and OTA updates" before I purchase it ??, or I really need to purchase and open it to know??
thanks in advance
Dear A7.Rtb,
I think it highly depends on where you're going to buy. For example if you're going to buy on AliExpress, there is one major reseller which labeled all phones accordingly with "Global" or "Global ROM". You just need to look for the phones labeled "Global" and ignore all the others, even tho "Global ROM" is generally cheaper.
Maybe you can also see it on the box the phone came in with but I'm not sure about that
Kind regards,
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Thanks for your answer,bro.
In fact, I'm from Syria, and here we can't buy online, and we don't have any of the purchasing agencies such as AliExpress or Amazon or others. There are only small local shops, which means I can check the box before I buy the phone, I think the phone type must be defined on the box, isn't it ???.
But there is something I didn't fully understand.
Do you mean that the phones labeled "Global ROM" are Chinese version in the first place, but with the global ROM installed on them - as if I purchased the Chinese version and installed the Global ROM from miui.eu on it, for example - ???
I'm really sorry if I bother you, but this phone is priced here about 220000 of the local currency, and this is not cheap at all, so I don't want to venture ...
Thank you again
Dear A7.Rtb,
don't worry, you don't bother me
First thing, I hope you are as safe as possible in Syria, my friend.
As far as I read here in the forum and at Google is that the Chinese version box has only Chinese letters on it and that the global version box has a sticker saying "Global" on it.
But I can't confirm that because I haven't seen it in reality yet.
Yes, many sellers on AliExpress taking the Chinese version, unlock the bootloader, flash the official global ROM and put it back in the box.
I read today about the disadvantages of having an unlocked bootloader. As far as I read, the phone will work fine but Google Pay and some apps like banking and Netflix won't work because they check if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hope I could help you a bit
Have fun and stay safe
Undefined
undefined999 said:
Dear A7.Rtb,
don't worry, you don't bother me
First thing, I hope you are as safe as possible in Syria, my friend.
As fast as I read here in the forum and at Google is that the Chinese version box has only Chinese letters on it and that the global version box has a sticker saying "Global" on it.
But I can't confirm that because I haven't seen it in reality yet.
Yes, many sellers on AliExpress taking the Chinese version, unlock the bootloader, flash the official global ROM and put it back in the box.
I read today about the disadvantages of having an unlocked bootloader. As far as I read, the phone will work fine but Google Pay and some apps like banking and Netflix won't work because they check if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hope I could help you a bit
Have fun and stay safe
Undefined
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Thank you for explaining more to me, you helped me so much.
And yes, I'm fine here in Syria, there is no war where I live.
thank you for your kindness, dear friend
undefined999 said:
Dear A7.Rtb,
don't worry, you don't bother me
First thing, I hope you are as safe as possible in Syria, my friend.
As fast as I read here in the forum and at Google is that the Chinese version box has only Chinese letters on it and that the global version box has a sticker saying "Global" on it.
But I can't confirm that because I haven't seen it in reality yet.
Yes, many sellers on AliExpress taking the Chinese version, unlock the bootloader, flash the official global ROM and put it back in the box.
I read today about the disadvantages of having an unlocked bootloader. As far as I read, the phone will work fine but Google Pay and some apps like banking and Netflix won't work because they check if the bootloader is unlocked.
Hope I could help you a bit
Have fun and stay safe
Undefined
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Just love your empathy.
Kudos to people like you still care for people who are different from them without any racism and prejudice
Oh man; this is stressing me just a bit that I can ruin my new phone with one software button. Is it at least unbricka me from that state?
Cause I am buying a Mi9 More details here, idk if this is allowed to post this link
So I imagine I can convert it down the line. Bootloader unlocked isn't an issue for me since I always have my phone's rooted anyway which I need to unlock bootloader for anyway.
This is my first Xiaomi phone so curious, there is an official global ROM and a different one from xiaomi.eu? And one requires flashing tool and other can flash from TWRP?
Thanks in advance
I was planning on importing a few P30 Pro's from China to the US. Have a cousin who sells phones over there on commission and was planning to help her out.
Will there be any problems with the Chinese version in the US? I assume I can load a google play store APK. I am using T-Mobile for my provider. I think the modem and bands for T-Mobile and the P30 would work too?
Hoping there wont be many problems. Thanks!
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I was planning on importing a few P30 Pro's from China to the US. Have a cousin who sells phones over there on commission and was planning to help her out.
Will there be any problems with the Chinese version in the US? I assume I can load a google play store APK. I am using T-Mobile for my provider. I think the modem and bands for T-Mobile and the P30 would work too?
Hoping there wont be many problems. Thanks!
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You won't be able to change launcher (well you can if you install a secondary launcher and remove the stock one via adb) and also you will be missing some lte bands.
JJay666 said:
You won't be able to change launcher (well you can if you install a secondary launcher and remove the stock one via adb) and also you will be missing some lte bands.
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I think the phone is missing band 66 and 71? Let me know if I am wrong. I know that band 71 isnt coming to my area in a long time. How do I check what band my area is using?
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I think the phone is missing band 66 and 71? Let me know if I am wrong. I know that band 71 isnt coming to my area in a long time. How do I check what band my area is using?
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Yeah 66, you can refer here.Not really sure about the area specific part.
How much is it in China? L29?
so are there no problems with the China version such as plagued the Mate 20 pro? for example, google assistant and google pay work without problems on the china p30? is there another thread? I can't seem to find one
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so are there no problems with the China version such as plagued the Mate 20 pro? for example, google assistant and google pay work without problems on the china p30? is there another thread? I can't seem to find one
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It'll be the same as there's no google support in china. Why don't you order from Malaysia or Singapore ? Its L29 global version and much cheaper. Pm me if you need some help.
JJay666 said:
It'll be the same as there's no google support in china. Why don't you order from Malaysia or Singapore ? Its L29 global version and much cheaper. Pm me if you need some help.
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Are you speaking from experience or just saying this because google play is not installed by default on phones and google is blocked in China? These were specific issues with the last phone.. google assistant and google pay problems.
With the Mate 20 pro, Huawei made it easy to install the play store (so that means services was also installed)
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Are you speaking from experience or just saying this because google play is not installed by default on phones and google is blocked in China? These were specific issues with the last phone.. google assistant and google pay problems.
With the Mate 20 pro, Huawei made it easy to install the play store (so that means services was also installed)
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Playstore isn't an issue. Framework already comes pre-installed. You just need to install the apk however most sellers already do this for you. Almost all china models comes with google framework pre-installed now. In regards of the voice assistant when you press the power button, that i'm not sure if you'll be able to set google assistant. Main issue will be the obvious chinese recovery menu and a few bloatware and the ability to not change the launcher. You can get the launcher changed by installing a secondary launcher and debloating the stock one via adb. China version won't pass safetynet too.
With Chinese Rom you will get Chinese bloatware as which can be partially deleted from the face of it, and also some no delectable apps like Huawei voice assistant and browser, and you will spot some Chinese font here and there like contacts apps bringing up Chinese yellow book contacts.
I'm trying to understand the comparisons and the best one to go for.
I've recently become aware of the phones since I'm now hunting one for my wife.
I got excited to watch a review about the Redmi K20 Pro until I understood it was primarily for the Chinese & Indian market, and it doesn't support band 20.
I'm in the UK so it looks like I must import one and be mindful of the lack of band 20. Importing is not an issue for me since I've done with my Xiaomi Max 3 when it first came out.
But then I started to get a little confused because the review was comparing it to a Xiaomi Mi 9T and other sites said they were identical. They're not though as the Redmi has a better CPU but it is however, the same as the 9T 'Pro'. I realised (especially because of the title of this forum!) that the two Pros are the same except the 9T Pro is for the European market. Please let me know if I'm wrong at this point.
So, now for me, it comes down to the price versus band 20. Does anyone know when the 9T Pro is being released if not already because I can only find it to pre-order?
Also, will the difference between the 2 phones only be the bands?
I get the feeling the 9T Pro is going to be more expensive, how much I don't know but if it's going to be long time before it's released, I will consider the Redmi K20 Pro instead.
If you can see what my predicaments are then I'd be grateful for any advice about this and recommendations.
Thanks very much.
So i bought the k20 pro a few weeks ago and received it last Friday. The LTE connectivity is good for me in the Netherlands.
A friend of mine bought the mi 9t pro last week trough dutch smartphone seller belsimpel.nl and received his phone yesterday.
The phones are exactly the same, hardware wise. Firmware wise they differ. The 9T pro firmware has support for band 20, like you said.
But in theory the k20 pro should be able to support it band 20 because there is no hardware difference.
At the moment it is not clear yet whether the European firmware can be installed on the k20 pro since it is Qualcomm proprietary software. (this is what i read somewhere on this forum, correct me if iam wrong anyone)
Perhaps someone will be able to find a solution for that, but i don't know for sure whether its possible.
Is it worth buying the K20 Pro?
I'm comfortable with custom ROM flashing procedures.
Or is it better to pay for. MI 9T Pro?
I hear, even the global versions are not easier to unlock and update with custom versions, so it might not worth the trouble of getting this one, and go for a Chinese K20 Pro.
Anyone can comment on some quality differences?
Anyone in Europe feels a lack of coverage due to the missing B20 LTE band?
Is this still a good budget decision or better wait and invest in a more mainstream device?
Would always recommend the 9T Pro officially from the EU.
It comes with everything working correct (NFC, band 20, WidevineL1), switching ad's off means really off and Global EU Rom is that good that no other Rom is required so you can leave it locked.
And warranty is under EU law!!
For a similar price you'd be best off getting the Mi 9T Pro, but if you wish to save some money you can make the K20 Pro almost identical asides from Band 20 support.
I personally have the 8GB/256GB K20 Pro running:
TWRP from mauronofrio
Xiaomu.eu firmware (last MIUI 10 with Android 10)
Magisk 19.3 (Magisk Hide on Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Google Pay & my banking apps)
The Google Pay fix
that's your choice, i use to say that: everything comes with a cost and a price. I believe the money you save for getting k20 pro is paid for acquiring knowledge and working to make everything runs just fine... (I personally like this kind of stuff, like most of one here, but some people do not)...
mwarner said:
For a similar price you'd be best off getting the Mi 9T Pro, but if you wish to save some money you can make the K20 Pro almost identical asides from Band 20 support.
I personally have the 8GB/256GB K20 Pro running:
TWRP from mauronofrio
Xiaomu.eu firmware (last MIUI 10 with Android 10)
Magisk 19.3 (Magisk Hide on Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Google Pay & my banking apps)
The Google Pay fix
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It seems very hard to find an EU seller of MI 9T Pro.
Because there's no B20 support.
Do you know of seller that ships ?
thiagodark said:
that's your choice, i use to say that: everything comes with a cost and a price. I believe the money you save for getting k20 pro is paid for acquiring knowledge and working to make everything runs just fine... (I personally like this kind of stuff, like most of one here, but some people do not)...
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10x, I too like messing with the phone. So I won't keep it locked anyhow.
Just wondering if it's worth to buy this toy... Or wait for another.
mwarner said:
For a similar price you'd be best off getting the Mi 9T Pro, but if you wish to save some money you can make the K20 Pro almost identical asides from Band 20 support.
I personally have the 8GB/256GB K20 Pro running:
TWRP from mauronofrio
Xiaomu.eu firmware (last MIUI 10 with Android 10)
Magisk 19.3 (Magisk Hide on Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Google Pay & my banking apps)
The Google Pay fix
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Gpay has been broke for a while pal
sutty86 said:
Gpay has been broke for a while pal
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I used my phone to buy some stuff from the local supermarket just this afternoon, so the fixes I linked to above certainly work on my device.
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zagzag99 said:
It seems very hard to find an EU seller of MI 9T Pro.
Because there's no B20 support.
Do you know of seller that ships ?
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The Mi 9T Pro does have Band 20 support. You can either buy it locally or use a price comparison site for imports like Kimovil.
zagzag99 said:
Is it worth buying the K20 Pro?
I'm comfortable with custom ROM flashing procedures.
Or is it better to pay for. MI 9T Pro?
I hear, even the global versions are not easier to unlock and update with custom versions, so it might not worth the trouble of getting this one, and go for a Chinese K20 Pro.
Anyone can comment on some quality differences?
Anyone in Europe feels a lack of coverage due to the missing B20 LTE band?
Is this still a good budget decision or better wait and invest in a more mainstream device?
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I have the k20 pro and the band 20 is not an issue for me. I live in albania and use the 4g normally. To me it's a great phone. Beautiful display and performance. I have isntalled eu rom android 10 and gcam. Definitely would advise buying this one over mi9t pro.
mwarner said:
I used my phone to buy some stuff from the local supermarket just this afternoon, so the fixes I linked to above certainly work on my device.
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The Mi 9T Pro does have Band 20 support. You can either buy it locally or use a price comparison site for imports like Kimovil.
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I've just tried from your link and it won't work here in the uk
sutty86 said:
I've just tried from your link and it won't work here in the uk
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I am from the UK too & managed to set it up correctly and re-assign my Natwest credit card to Google Pay on my device.
Sorry offtopic, but, 4g band 20 is the only available on uk?