Visiting Italy, temperature 30°, sitting at the pool, put my phone 2-3 times into water, maybe 10cm depth. Took a 10sek shower near the pool couple of times, phone in my hands.... An hour later started to take photos and discovered moisture inside all 3 lenses!!! Waterproof phone? Forget it! Keep it away from water!
First of all it's water resistant and not waterproof. On top of that it's water resistant when it comes to fresh water and not pool water which contains chlorine.
ip68 - up to 1.5m and up to half hour - 10 cm fresh water kills it!? Don't understand me wrong - I love Huawei, have owned P6, P7, P9, P10, P20, P20Pro, but this dissapoints me...
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ip68 - up to 1.5m and up to half hour - 10 cm fresh water kills it!? Don't understand me wrong - I love Huawei, have owned P6, P7, P9, P10, P20, P20Pro, but this dissapoints me...
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It's the same with any IP68 rated device, it's not applicable to chlorinated water or salt water.
I've put it in sea water, a pool and in my bath and not a single problem was caused.
Took mine in a pool sunk to 12ft. No issues.
It could happen. It's all because using the phone it gets worn. A small fall, the use of the usb port, heat and other thing could weaken the IP68.
Same here, had in the water for a lot of times, no problems.
Maybe you have a faulty device, try to contact your retailer.
Have you ever dropped your device? Even if it did not cause any apparent damage or scratching, it may have damaged the protection.
I didn't put my P30 PRO in water, but I did with my S9+ and I didn't had any problem.
I also watched some videos of people using P30 PRO underwater and 0 problems.
Yep, it has fallen 2-3 times....
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So the protection may be compromised.
Hi, was cleaning my p30 pro when noticed a strip of glue pointing out from between the metal chassis and the rear glass.. I pulled it and about 2 inches of glue came off..... It was shaped like glass noodle.
I am worried as to how this will affect the water proofing of my phone... Or could this be just excessive glue on the sides...
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I saw many video on youtube where peoples put the 3T into the water and it survives. So is the phone secretly splash or waterproof or something like that?
https://oneplus.net/se/support/answer/is-the-oneplus-phone-water-resistant-or-waterproof
It's a thing that the manufacturer says (see Sony water resistance is not working) I mean like in real not at paper form.
I wouldn't bet on it being waterproof to the extent of phones that are advertised as such (iPhone, Samsung S7, S8 with their IP67, 68 ratings). Making the phone waterproof costs money, and it's a big marketing point. So it doesn't make any sense for OnePlus to have made it waterproof, and keeping it "secret".
Any modern phone is water resistant to some degree. Mostly, I expect phones to be able to survive some minor water on the outside, as you never know when you will be stuck outside in a sudden downpour. Or stray splash from a sink, etc.
Whether a phone survives being submerged depends on how much water gets into seams and ports (and speaker openings, etc.), and then once inside whether it gets to a spot that causes a short circuit or corrosion. On those points, just because the phone works right away after being submerged (such as in the videos - I just watched a couple) does NOT mean the phone will be free of the effects of water damage days/weeks later.
Therefore, I would not count on this phone being able to survive submersion. Treat it as you would any electronic, that is not waterproof. Minimize exposure to moisture, wipe it off and dry it immediately if it is exposed, etc.
I got my 3t spilled with water couple of times. The 3rd time the fingerprint scanner and the left capacitive button didn't work at all. So i just left it on a bowl of rice for couple of days and it works fine now. In conclusion, this phone is not water resistant.
Ah okay thanks the answers.
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I got my 3t spilled with water couple of times. The 3rd time the fingerprint scanner and the left capacitive button didn't work at all. So i just left it on a bowl of rice for couple of days and it works fine now. In conclusion, this phone is not water resistant.
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It is more likely the phone sitting for a few days with or without rice is what dried it out and has it working fine now. Just to clarify for others on this, it's a myth and has been proven by science many times that a bowl of rice does not actually do anything to dry out your phone's internals. Simply having your phone air out for a few days has been more effective than almost every other method found on the internet.
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Just to clarify for others on this, it's a myth and has been proven by science many times that a bowl of rice does not actually do anything to dry out your phone's internals.
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Do you have a decent link? I was curious, and searched. All I could find reference the same 2 "studies". One is posted on gazelle.com, and doesn't see much about the methodology or specific results, other than that rice is the worst of the substances they tested, in drying a sponge. No mention of the environment or other controls, sample size, etc.
The other often quoted study by TekDry appears to only have one data point for each condition (rice versus just drying in open air) which is definitely not science.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtPNh6MfpU#action=share
Like most new phones op5 is basically glued together which provides some resistance to water.. so while I wouldn't worry about using the phone is light rain I still wouldn't trust it for underwater experiments. Water damage can also be tricky and start causing issues much later.
This video doesn't tell you anything. Oneplus tells you it isn't water resistant, so any potential water damage isn't covered by warranty. This experiment is the same as dropping the phone from 2 meters and having it not brake; it might happen, but it also might not. Do you want to take the risk?
nothing new here, you can find those kind of video from all oneplus devices and almost all popular phones.
My galaxy S3 was in a hot jacuzzi all night ( about 8 hours ), and after 3 years, it still working,
I drop many electronic devices in water, and it still working, even without the ingress protection.
Make sure to not power up the device before it's completely dry (about 2 weeks)
Op5 boards are probably IP ready, but the case is not sealed. You won't have any issue, until the oxydation is becoming bad.
The one plus is water resistant, however they didn't get it certified so people can't RMA for water damage. I think apple did something similar, the Nexus 6 is the same.
Although i wouldn't like to be the mug to test this theory.
That's pretty much how I'm looking at it. I won't stress if I get caught in the rain with it, but I'm not going to go swimming with it, either.
I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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I can verify it's at least resistant to water. Dropped it in the sink three days ago. Got it up in about 5 seconds (it felt like 10 minutes, tho...). I quickly dried it with a hanky and then blow dried it. At first there was some glitching with the alert slider, but that went away after an hour. Now it's all good.
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Water damage can show up weeks or months later. I hope your device isn't damaged, but I would definitely keep any non ipx7 or higher device away from water. Especially submersion.
This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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Just wait, I accidentally splashed mine, the moisture notification disappeared after some 4 hours, it depends on ambient conditions, where I live it is 100% humid 24 hours, as I live 200 meters away from the beach..
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The notification has gone but the phone is getting warm and it feels dampy.
I knoknows that depends of aambient conditions but I feel it different...
Thanks for your comment
Regards
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This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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I would try putting your phone in a bag of rice overnight to draw any water out that may have been forced in from the pressure of the running water. Never use soap on your phone or place it under running water. The soap lubricates the water and allows it to be more easily forced where it wasn't intended to go. I just use a microfiber cloth with lens cleaning solution sprayed on the cloth. Even doing this causes the moisture detected warning for a few.
Buy some anti-bacterial wipes to clean your phone with. There is absolutely no need to wash it with soap and water.
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This is the first time since 5 months that I trythe ip68 certificate just putting the phone under water in the handwash to wash the entire phone.
How much time do I need to wait to disappear the notification of USB port wet? It seems that the phone is getting hot. Also I use handsoap for wash it. Hope that not be a big deal...
There is something that I can do to get normal again?
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Why on earth royals tu nerd soap to clean a phone? The i68 rating is about water resistance of under water. At 1 mtr for 30 minutes.. My figures may be wrong as they change from ip67 to ip68 but the point here is that you're not supposed yo it it under a tap!
He depth and time of water resistance is defined in these certifications because it is about pressure and time.. Eg The phone can hold up to the pressure at 1 mtr of hat ever depth has been mentioned in the rating for a maximum of the time given in the rating.
If it is 5 mtr 15 minutes, then it will not be damaged by water if it's 5 mrt see for 15 minutes max.. As time increases the pressure on the seals can and probably will get water into The phone.
Remember it is water resistant not waterproof! With a tap The after comes out with pressure and that could cause one of the seals to fail.
Also, soapy water is better at conducting electricity, it could have shorted out the phone and you would have a spotless but dead note 8.
Water resistant does not mean water proof and it certainly does not mean dunking the phone in water all the time. It is a safety measure which helps if you accidentally get it wet or drop it in a puddle.
The guys testing phones on YouTube are different as they try to push the limits but do not recommend it for others to follow or repeat Their tests
This us long but I see a lot of people are unaware and say their phone is waterproof.. I recently met a guy at a cellphone shop that is run by my friend.. The guy had an IPhone 7 or 7s or 7s+ if there's one.
He got it wet accidentally, spilled water on it and it died.. I asked him whether he went to apple he said he did and they want Rs. 35000 which is $500 to replace it.
I told him that it is supposed to be ip67 or ip68 so they should cover it under warranty.. But they never offered him this solution..
Don't you think it is wrong that they claim water resistance and it dies because of a splash and they do not cover it?
Hope this helps..
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Nice opinion and as you Said: waterproof is not the same like water resistant.
As I have seen reading several posts regarding this issue about claiming warranty due to water damage, it is very difficult if not impossible to get a device fixed by means of warranty under this circumstances, because the damage might be caused by exceeding the max allowed depth, or the time it was submerged and, if the device was put into a strong flow of water, as they can not verify anything about these possible scenarios, they refuse to make valid the warranty
This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
Anyone had trouble with water?
Still don't understand why people purposely put their expensive smartphones under water. regardless of the IP68 spec
It's a very sensitive electronic device which may or may not be correctly sealed, keep the IP68 rating for when it rains or when you accidentally get it wet, don't put it under water on purpose...
And why did you only check Huawei's water policy 'after' you put it in water? Why not check these things first?
Plus, how dirty was your phone that you needed to put it under the tap? A damp cloth would have been better no?
I'm fully understanding the last message, and as you I'm not gonna put my phone willingly under water...To clean it... Or anything else!
BUT, in other hand, huawei worked (and marketed communication) to put an ip certification on it and we all paid for it too.... Not 'the only' feature but it's part of the price for that product.
Will anyone say 'ok it's fine' if your water-resistant watch is filled with water after you've washed your hands or done some dishes?
Could be a 10€ ones or 15k€...water-resistant or ip is still the same... Even more with a device like this phone which was launched around 1k€.
Will somebody say 'ok...' too if your brand new jacket which was sold as bullet proof is scratch by a paintball ? ...
Etc etc.
OK : don't look to damage your stuff willingly
Not OK : companies wash their hands so easily...
Hope your device get repaired !
Or put in rice bag for the night ... Old style always relieved
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Did you bought it from an official seller??? Because there are a lot of cheap refurbished that they don't mention this of course.
I had a scare with my p30pro. Walked into a swimming pool with my phone in my swimming shorts. Phone fell out and stayed under water for approx 5mins in under 1m depth. Got the phone out and dried it with a towel. Had phone microphone issues for two days after that - people on a call could not hear me properly, but all issues cleared out after a couple of days, so I'm guessing there was some water stuck in mic holes that had to dry out. Since then, I had no issues so I'm guessing IP68 rating was true in my case
I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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I've used mine in the Mediterranean Sea, no problems so far. Multiple times under water.
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/what-is-ip68-ip-ratings-explained-2947135
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You know what salt water does to electronics right?
Even if the water doesn't cause a problem the salt will corrode the contacts for charger etc
Can I swim with my smartphone?
We certainly wouldn’t recommend swimming with your phone. When the IEC tests a smartphone it’s done under lab conditions, with the handset in standby mode – not in a swimming pool full of various chemicals used to cleanse the water.
The same applies to the ocean. Seawater is full of salt, a mineral device-makers stress isn’t tested when the unit is being put through its paces for an IP rating, so we’d also strongly suggest steering clear of that.
Let’s be clear here: the rating the International Electrotechnical Commission assigns is strictly for fresh water. That means it doesn’t guarantee protection from submersion in other liquids – beer, coffee, salt water and soda, to name but a few.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/what-is-ip68-ip-ratings-explained-2947135
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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Yes, Did plug my port on the bottom first and give it 'normal' water bath afterwards.
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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You will destroy your phone, hope you are rich
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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No, putting a smartphone into the sea will not be fine, but carry on
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This week I decided wash my device with tap water and for my surprise I realized a few hours later that my cameras was with water inside... I never let it fell down and I was shocked with the "protection" and even more after reading that Huawei doesn't guarantee protection against water...
So if it really has IP68, what's the point?
Anyone had trouble with water?
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never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
wajeehuzkhan said:
never had any issue like this and i do clean my mobile like this quite often even cleaned it with soap on many occasions.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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It'll be fine. Well worth the footage I got.
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There is a dedicated underwater case for P30 pro and underwater photo mode.
Much cheaper than new phone IMO, if you're into underwater photos.
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Then you've been lucky so far, that's all, every time you put it in the sea it starts to eat away at the metal contacts, sooner or later they will fail, then you will be here on XDA asking why and how to fix it
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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I guess that you confused users, this guy said that he ony washed the device, no put in the sea (like mine)
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Doesn't matter really, purposely putting your phone under any water isn't the best idea, they do not come advertising that you can do that, there is no picture of the phone under the water taking photos to show you what you can do with it, it is literally just a rating to say it is water 'resistant' and even then, only at a certain depth for a certain length of time, under lab conditions, so in other words, Not waterproof at all as it will eventually leak in, that alone tells me some devices will be better sealed than others, which has already been shown by people complaining water got in the camera and display
Your phone your choice, just don't come making threads on XDA asking how to fix it when it all goes wrong
Yes it has IP68, I tried putting it on a pool and under a waterfall. Just don't let your speaker grill and charging port submerged in the water for a long period
Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
Phone is IP68 rated. It can survive underwater. IP68 is great if you are under a rain shower or if the phone falls accidentally in water. Well, I use it in the shower and i wash it under tap water. Never had any problem. Remember that, if the membrane of mic gets wet, the quality of your voice will be worse.
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Wait i thought the p30 pro was waterproof???
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IP68 is splash proof only, not really a waterproof, even Samsung's S & Note series
This is silly.. It's supposed to be IP68. It got wet from low pressure tap water, I didn't mind because I know it's IP68. I was about to take a photo and noticed it's blurry, looked on the back and both the main and wide angle lenses are filled with water drops. So annoying.
The 5X lens is perfect for some reason, zero drops there.
I sent email to Giztop, I hope they can help.
Don't trust any phone to be watertight... many have learned the hard way.
Think of it more like being water resistant.
NEVER expose a phone to salt water. If -any- gets inside it's a sure death.
Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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Damn.. I bought the 512/12 version just 5 months ago. What a sh*tshow..
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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If it hasn't worked it's way to the mobo you should be fine after the clean out.
Just keep it powered down until then.
Truth be told the seals are rather puny on all phones. It's nice when they work, just don't count on it.
Realize that being under water 3 feet is 1.3 psi of pressure. It will find any openings... hence the max 30 minute warning on most "waterproof" phones.
Two ziplock freezers bags will make it waterproof for a couple inches to a few feet in depth. Even then I would keep an eye on it.
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I had an LG V30 in the past.. It was in the water so many times , I figured IP68 can be trusted. I guess not all phones are made alike.
Anyway, I turned it off and it's sitting in rice (no idea if it actually works, but better than nothing).
My biggest worry is actually water marks on the camera glass after it dries. The main reason for buying this phone is the camera.
I already sent Giztop an email about it, let's see what they will reply.
Mine fell in a sink once but it was ok . Xiaomi waterproofing seems kinda hit and miss tbh
Forget the rice, eat it.
Heat drives out moisture even in a high humidity environments ie a hot box. Used in tropics to perverse lens, surgical equipment, etc.
Don't over cook it though
A constant 110F will work but it may take a spell.
The water will likely leave a residue but it may not be an issue. Try to gently tap it to the side so it will vaporize elsewhere.
I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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I'm using a sous vide box , inserted a hair dryer in the whole of the sous vide and set the HD on low. Whenever it's turned on the moist goes away, as soon as I stop it comes back. Trying now 30 minutes or so, I'll update.
Giztop seems to avoid taking care of it, but I learned IP68 is not to be trusted. $1200 lesson.
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It's not a expensive lesson yet... have it taken apart and dried.
That's probably the best option to avoid damaging it.