Did anyone of you go to a service center for those high temprature automatic shutdown problems!? What was the response? Was the device fixed? What was the problem?
My phone went for a warranty and repair service for about 16 days and my motherboard was replaced. I got it today.I am currently not facing the problem of high temperatures , shut down while charging and gaming but will let you know as I've got my phone today. Also I ran geekbench to make my phone heat while charging but it didn't shut down let's see l ll post more after two to three days of usage.
Niks6164 said:
My phone went for a warranty and repair service for about 16 days and my motherboard was replaced. I got it today.I am currently not facing the problem of high temperatures , shut down while charging and gaming but will let you know as I've got my phone today. Also I ran geekbench to make my phone heat while charging but it didn't shut down let's see l ll post more after two to three days of usage.
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So did they replace it for free or charged something!? Because mine was rooted they are asking for 5k which I think is pretty generous considering the motherboard's real cost is 26k or something! I am just asking was your phone in warranty or not and how much they charged you!?
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So did they replace it for free or charged something!? Because mine was rooted they are asking for 5k which I think is pretty generous considering the motherboard's real cost is 26k or something! I am just asking was your phone in warranty or not and how much they charged you!?
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My phone is in warranty n was non rooted. the problem is gone as of now I think. The phone is not shutting off while charging or playing games and also phone is going above 40 degrees to 43 degrees while playing it's not shutting down like before .Its solved in my opinion .replacing the motherboard will solve the problem.
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My phone is in warranty n was non rooted. the problem is gone as of now I think. The phone is not shutting off while charging or playing games and also phone is going above 40 degrees to 43 degrees while playing it's not shutting down like before .Its solved in my opinion .replacing the motherboard will solve the problem.
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Okay! Thanks for the info! I will get my motherboard replaced then!
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So did they replace it for free or charged something!? Because mine was rooted they are asking for 5k which I think is pretty generous considering the motherboard's real cost is 26k or something! I am just asking was your phone in warranty or not and how much they charged you!?
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Are you from the Philippines bro? That is cheap already.. what is the location of that service center?
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Are you from the Philippines bro? That is cheap already.. what is the location of that service center?
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No I am from India, you can convert it in your currency. 5k rupees.
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Hi.. Does anyone have any idea on whats the approx price of the Motherboard of our ACE in India. Checked in few Samsung service centers but got different quotation from diferent service centers varying from INR 3K to INR 4450.
Thanks
Jei
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Hi.. Does anyone have any idea on whats the approx price of the Motherboard of our ACE in India. Checked in few Samsung service centers but got different quotation from diferent service centers varying from INR 3K to INR 4450.
Thanks
Jei
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Yeah. You wont gettit any cheaper.
In fact, 3k is actually a pretty good deal.
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Yeah. You wont gettit any cheaper.
In fact, 3k is actually a pretty good deal.
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Thanks Pal. Yeah, 3K seems to be THE cheapest price i got after checking many Samsung Service centers at the moment but not sure how it can vary this drastically. Wondering if it would be original board. Anyway shall check again.
BTW, do we get these kinda motherboards in open market so we can fix it ourselves?
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Jei Kumar
Did you brick your device or something?
The samsung service center guys always say that you need to replace the motherboard to unbrick it. But actually, they just use jtag to fix your device! If you have warranty, you need not worry. But if you don't, then it is very difficult to get your phone fixed.
The last time I bricked my phone, they said the motherboard is 5000k.
Good luck!
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Did you brick your device or something?
The samsung service center guys always say that you need to replace the motherboard to unbrick it. But actually, they just use jtag to fix your device! If you have warranty, you need not worry. But if you don't, then it is very difficult to get your phone fixed.
The last time I bricked my phone, they said the motherboard is 5000k.
Good luck!
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Havent bricked yet but got water poured on it accidently. Its functioning all well but got problem with charging. The battery icon graphic shows the "charging" status even after unplugged. And much worse is the phone gets switched off in 15-20 mins though it was put on charge for hours together.
The warranty is over so had dis assembled every accessory from the motherboard and tried cleaning the board and power connector unit with spirit, axe/denim deodarant and what not.... no good so far...
Surpise is, the phone still works well while its on ... Love this phone
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Havent bricked yet but got water poured on it accidently. Its functioning all well but got problem with charging. The battery icon graphic shows the "charging" status even after unplugged. And much worse is the phone gets switched off in 15-20 mins though it was put on charge for hours together.
The warranty is over so had dis assembled every accessory from the motherboard and tried cleaning the board and power connector unit with spirit, axe/denim deodarant and what not.... no good so far...
Surpise is, the phone still works well while its on ... Love this phone
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Well. Maybe your only hope is the service center.
BTW...I live in Chennai too! :laugh:
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Well. Maybe your only hope is the service center.
BTW...I live in Chennai too! :laugh:
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When checked the same service cemter today, they claim the price to be INR 4400
Had asked them if they can get me the board so i can fix it myself but it also seem to be not possible as they claim the board would be blank without any IMEI # and they had to update the board with my IMEI #
Seems like no other option now than to replace the board.
Thanks everyone.
Hi everyone,
First off, my samsung galaxy note n7000 has a strange battery problem. It charges really slowly in the wall but seems to be faster in a pc, and when it finally gets to 100%, I get the notification that says 100% charged; so I unplug and it quite literally jumps to; 1%, 67%, 84%, 15%, it differs everytime. Ive tried a factory reset and wiping cache paralition, nothing has worked. :crying:
This brings me to my second problem, a few months ago I dropped it whilst working(I'm a farmer, which explains why I dont know how to fix it) and the screen glass smashed, but the touch screen works perfectly however if I take it back to the store, will it still be under warranty? Ive only had the phone for six months.
I have tried numerous chargers and batteries, doesnt fix the problem. If its not under warranty, would it be worth waiting for the official samsung ota update to android 4.1 jelly bean, or will the problem carry over.
I hope somebody could help me with this problem and give me advice about whether I'm covered under warranty. Thankyou
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Hi everyone,
First off, my samsung galaxy note n7000 has a strange battery problem. It charges really slowly in the wall but seems to be faster in a pc, and when it finally gets to 100%, I get the notification that says 100% charged; so I unplug and it quite literally jumps to; 1%, 67%, 84%, 15%, it differs everytime. Ive tried a factory reset and wiping cache paralition, nothing has worked. :crying:
This brings me to my second problem, a few months ago I dropped it whilst working(I'm a farmer, which explains why I dont know how to fix it) and the screen glass smashed, but the touch screen works perfectly however if I take it back to the store, will it still be under warranty? Ive only had the phone for six months.
I have tried numerous chargers and batteries, doesnt fix the problem. If its not under warranty, would it be worth waiting for the official samsung ota update to android 4.1 jelly bean, or will the problem carry over.
I hope somebody could help me with this problem and give me advice about whether I'm covered under warranty. Thankyou
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Dear kylegriffies,
First on the battery problem, I can think of two possible explanations: 1) the battery aged, you need to change a new battery. But as we have seen you had down it before, so it must be a phone hardware issue. 2) There is a damage in some voltage detection unit, maybe a water damage or something that made it short a little bit?
For your the screen damage, that is an accident I guess. If you have insurance for accidental damage I guess you can fix it, but if not, the screen is not under warranty. Try to ask them if they can fix the circuit problem.
The best way I suggest is taking it to Samsung service center regardless if you have voided the warranty. Sometimes for luck too.
P.S If you work in the farm, I recommend a Otterbox case(if you get your screen replaced), so even if you drop them it's not likely to be damaged.
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Dear kylegriffies,
First on the battery problem, I can think of two possible explanations: 1) the battery aged, you need to change a new battery. But as we have seen you had down it before, so it must be a phone hardware issue. 2) There is a damage in some voltage detection unit, maybe a water damage or something that made it short a little bit?
For your the screen damage, that is an accident I guess. If you have insurance for accidental damage I guess you can fix it, but if not, the screen is not under warranty. Try to ask them if they can fix the circuit problem.
The best way I suggest is taking it to Samsung service center regardless if you have voided the warranty. Sometimes for luck too.
P.S If you work in the farm, I recommend a Otterbox case(if you get your screen replaced), so even if you drop them it's not likely to be damaged.
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thanks for the reply
yeah bought a case as soon as i smashed so it never got worse and i dont have insurance unfortunatly... however, even if my screen is broke, will they still fix my battery problem? if it was a hardware issue... how could i resolve it?
cheers
Samsung will change it in warranty. I see no reason since battery related unit and screen is pretty irrelevant.
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Samsung will change it in warranty. I see no reason since battery related unit and screen is pretty irrelevant.
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okay thats brilliant. will take into the store when i have time and let you know how i got on
Hi everyone, I purchased my Xperia TX 2 months ago in Singapore and now I return to my home country- Vietnam. My phone was working good till last week.
I was surfing via 3G on my phone and i remember it was 3% battery left and then BANGGG...My phone turned black and i though it was out of battery.
Then I charged it on wall socket as usual and saw the red notification light as usual but it disappeared after a while. I couldnt turn it on anymore. I charged it for 4 hours and the screen kept the same.
I have tried to press "power +up/down volume" keys and its still frozen. Only the red light vibrates and nothing more.
I DIDNT unlock the boot loader, water, or drop it. I use my phone for daily uses and usually connect with the Sony Companion so I make sure again its not rooted yet.
Finally, I bring it on the customer service and they said its because of my fault to unplugged it when flashing ROM bla bla bla. i though Its because they have not seen any problem like this before since Xperia TX has not been released in Vietnam yet and they could not turn the phone on or connect it to PC. So, I left it there this morning and wait for the result.:crying:
Does anyone have the same problem with me? Is it the hardware or software problem? Is it the Sleep of Death (SOD) mentioned in some thread here? PLEASE show me how to fix it!
Have you tried taking out the battery, wait awhile and put it back again and plug the phone for charging again?
But since it's already in the service center, no need to worry, they can repair whatever the problem is.
Tapatalked from my TX
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Have you tried taking out the battery, wait awhile and put it back again and plug the phone for charging again?
But since it's already in the service center, no need to worry, they can repair whatever the problem is.
Tapatalked from my TX
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Already man! BUt it wont work I hope that they can fix it for me. I am regretting abt pictures, apps and stuff which havent been back-up yet (
Hawstein said:
Already man! BUt it wont work I hope that they can fix it for me. I am regretting abt pictures, apps and stuff which havent been back-up yet (
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you should have tried the backup and restore app of Sony bro, copy the backup to your PC and then restore it later after your phone got back from service center
anyways, next time try that app, it saves a lot of time
and about service center, they are quite very good in service quality
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Already man! BUt it wont work I hope that they can fix it for me. I am regretting abt pictures, apps and stuff which havent been back-up yet (
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I have the same problem, Orange light, wont turn on or respond no matter what i do. But i have not removed the battery yet, so wish me luck. Wont buy a Xperia ever again!.
Have try with Sony Update Service?
Xelestial01 said:
I have the same problem, Orange light, wont turn on or respond no matter what i do. But i have not removed the battery yet, so wish me luck. Wont buy a Xperia ever again!.
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Dont be so pessimistic like that dude, We are just not so lucky at all Best luck to you!
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Dont be so pessimistic like that dude, We are just not so lucky at all Best luck to you!
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Yesterday i tried removing the battery and it was no use. I am mad because i just lightly used the product for less than 2 weeks, took good care of it, and wont be able to return it because I am in another country. So that is 539 USD wasted.
Hey, anything could solve this problem?
As many threads about this (Or a similar problem) suggest you just need to leave you rphone on charge for at least 24 hours. Use a wll charger not a USB.
Do not touch the phone in this time, just wait. If after this it does not charge, it appears your battery is FUBAR'd
Hey, device more than 24 hours when there is no change, still red light. I had some battery nothing helps. Help please what can be done? Thank you.
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Hey, device more than 24 hours when there is no change, still red light. I had some battery nothing helps. Help please what can be done? Thank you.
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Do you know someone else with a phone that yu could borrow their battery to see?
I take it you have checked whether the charger works and tried other chargers?
Another trick I have heard of in the old X10 forum is to cut the end of your charger lead and directly put red wire onto positive end of battery and black wire onto the negative end and charge the battery that way. But do this at your own risk. I have no way of knowing if this will work on the TX and it may even make the battery worse....but for a last chance it may be worth a go.
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Also, its not yet been 24 hours since my post saying leave it plugged in for 24 hours...so maybe following instructions to the letter is something to go with in the future...
Hey, thanks for the experience to help and sorry for publication in both forums. I just gave up. I tried another battery I have another battery ... Did not work I think just the CPU burned or something? Sony is waiting for a reply on the matter. Unfortunately I did not buy the device in my country is not out here so I'm not sure I'd have a warranty. Thanks again
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Hey, thanks for the experience to help and sorry for publication in both forums. I just gave up. I tried another battery I have another battery ... Did not work I think just the CPU burned or something? Sony is waiting for a reply on the matter. Unfortunately I did not buy the device in my country is not out here so I'm not sure I'd have a warranty. Thanks again
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Got the same problem. No one can resolve this, and Sony refusing to repair a month old phone if you bought it not in your country. What a shame.
Bought new phone instead of bricked one.
So about a year ago, without warning, my Nexus 4 phone got so hot I had to throw it out of my car, the battery blew up like a balloon, and it blew the back off the phone and shattered the case. Really don't want to go through that again, so I was wondering if anyone had to replace the stock battery on their Moto G (2015) yet because it died, and at which point?
after using two years battery of my g3 got dead and i got it replaced within a day he took 700 indian rs for replacement
Amar 721 said:
after using two years battery of my g3 got dead and i got it replaced within a day he took 700 indian rs for replacement
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Was it done from the official service centre?
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Was it done from the official service centre?
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official service centre doesn't charge 700 ..service centre charges 1350 for battery replacement..am also in a idea of doing it..!!
STOCK OEM BATTERY
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So about a year ago, without warning, my Nexus 4 phone got so hot I had to throw it out of my car, the battery blew up like a balloon, and it blew the back off the phone and shattered the case. Really don't want to go through that again, so I was wondering if anyone had to replace the stock battery on their Moto G (2015) yet because it died, and at which point?
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Mines about to explode too...
Hey guys, so I bought a used Note 8. The battery has drained down to 0% in the past and this wasn't an issue until a month and half after I bought it. I was watching a youtube video then fell asleep. Wake up and try to charge my phone and it won't charge. I try some tricks I find online and none works. So i go to a phone store and get the battery replaced. That was two weeks ago.
Fast forward to last night and the same thing happens and my phone won't charge. I've seen two different threads about this on the Samsung forums website. I was wondering anyone else here has had this problem and how they fixed it.
It will appear that my phone's circuit is faulty and I'd need to sell mine and buy a new one, hopefully free of these issues. Have any of you experienced this?
Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Exynos or Snapdragon?
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Not sure.... My phone is the U.S. T-Mobile Variant
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Not sure.... My phone is the U.S. T-Mobile Variant
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On snapdragon it is known issue:
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-deep-discharge-protection/
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On snapdragon it is known issue:
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-deep-discharge-protection/
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Thanks I'll look into it. So buying a new T Mobile NOte 8 wouldn't be worth the risk cause the issue might show up again?
I'm gonna go after that tool but now I wonder if this issue would happen again if my battrey deplets over time even if my phone is off
It's NOT a Note 2!, It's a Note 8. It still has warranty. Same thing happened to mine, 0% and would not come back on nor charge. The service center changed the charge port and battery and still no charging. Then they changed the mainboard and now it works fine. WARRANTY
There was a guy on here who managed to fix it without changing hardware.
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One fix for 0% battery is to plug-unplug charger for 30 minutes or so until it gets enough power to turn on(didnt work for me). Another fix I read about was to open phone and "shock" battery back to life. I like my solution....WARRANTY. If the phone is dead, and there is no physical damage and no water damage when they open it, then they WILL fix it.
Does this occur with the Exynos variants?
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One fix for 0% battery is to plug-unplug charger for 30 minutes or so until it gets enough power to turn on(didnt work for me). Another fix I read about was to open phone and "shock" battery back to life. I like my solution....WARRANTY. If the phone is dead, and there is no physical damage and no water damage when they open it, then they WILL fix it.
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It's NOT a Note 2!, It's a Note 8. It still has warranty. Same thing happened to mine, 0% and would not come back on nor charge. The service center changed the charge port and battery and still no charging. Then they changed the mainboard and now it works fine. WARRANTY
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I bought it pre owned from swappa but what I did do was slap a Warranty Life wrranty on it. Its $50 deducatable. I used it to get it open and replaced the battery last time. And it was quick and painless except for the 50 bucks from the local repair store that supported Warranty Life. Are you saying Samuing itself would take the phone? Even if I bought it second hand? I thought you'd need to pay for their premium care thing
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I bought it pre owned from swappa but what I did do was slap a Warranty Life wrranty on it. Its $50 deducatable. I used it to get it open and replaced the battery last time. And it was quick and painless except for the 50 bucks from the local repair store that supported Warranty Life. Are you saying Samuing itself would take the phone? Even if I bought it second hand? I thought you'd need to pay for their premium care thing
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Yes Samsung would take it in for repair. I did not provide an invoice when I brought to repair center(UbreakiFix). They know its under warranty because the phone is under 1 year old.
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Yes Samsung would take it in for repair. I did not provide an invoice when I brought to repair center(UbreakiFix). They know its under warranty because the phone is under 1 year old.
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Free of charge?! YOu just took it in and they did it free of charge?
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Does this occur with the Exynos variants?
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I don't know, but I drained mine to zero once by accident, so I plugged it in for a bit and it booted up fine.
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Free of charge?! YOu just took it in and they did it free of charge?
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Step 1: Called Samsung and told them phone is dead. They asked for my name and phone number(just for the call not for warranty purpose), and asked for IMEI
Step 2: Gave them my Postal Code(Canada) and they found an authorized service center near me(in this case it was a UbreakiFix. They are now Samsung authorized and everywhere).
Step 3: Brought it to UbreakiFix and they did not ask for anything but my name and phone number, to call me when it was ready.
Step 4: Picked it up a week later(because they had to order a new mainboard). If it was just a battery or usb charge port, probably would have been a day or two.
Step 5: Walked out of the service center having not paid one cent for the repair (usb charge port, battery and mainboard all changed, something like $700 repair cost)...because it is under WARRANTY. The phone is less than one year old(released in September 2017 here in Canada) and it comes with a standard one year warranty.
The repair center looks for physical damage and water damage(once it's opened). If they don't find damaged caused by the user, they fix it. The only problem I had with Samsung was with an S7 a few years back. The screen started to flash(blink) and they refused to fix it. No physical damage at all but it was rooted. They said too bad we won't fix(even though root did NOT cause this problem). The screen was defective and phone was a few months old. What I should have done was fried the f*ckin mainboard (can't see if rooted) and they would have fixed it. Live and learn....
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I don't know, but I drained mine to zero once by accident, so I plugged it in for a bit and it booted up fine.
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Not all Note 8s have this problem. Definitely some out there do and Samsung has acknowledged this.
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Not all Note 8s have this problem. Definitely some out there do and Samsung has acknowledged this.
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I know, I was just replying to the guy who asked if it specifically affected Exynos. You're right though, it seems to be a problem with some units but not all devices.
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Step 1: Called Samsung and told them phone is dead. They asked for my name and phone number(just for the call not for warranty purpose), and asked for IMEI
Step 2: Gave them my Postal Code(Canada) and they found an authorized service center near me(in this case it was a UbreakiFix. They are now Samsung authorized and everywhere).
Step 3: Brought it to UbreakiFix and they did not ask for anything but my name and phone number, to call me when it was ready.
Step 4: Picked it up a week later(because they had to order a new mainboard). If it was just a battery or usb charge port, probably would have been a day or two.
Step 5: Walked out of the service center having not paid one cent for the repair (usb charge port, battery and mainboard all changed, something like $700 repair cost)...because it is under WARRANTY. The phone is less than one year old(released in September 2017 here in Canada) and it comes with a standard one year warranty.
The repair center looks for physical damage and water damage(once it's opened). If they don't find damaged caused by the user, they fix it. The only problem I had with Samsung was with an S7 a few years back. The screen started to flash(blink) and they refused to fix it. No physical damage at all but it was rooted. They said too bad we won't fix(even though root did NOT cause this problem). The screen was defective and phone was a few months old. What I should have done was fried the f*ckin mainboard (can't see if rooted) and they would have fixed it. Live and learn....
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Not all Note 8s have this problem. Definitely some out there do and Samsung has acknowledged this.
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Hmm so you think replacing my mainboard would stop this from happeneing again? Replacing the battery the first time this happened fixed the issue? When yours was fixed, did it do it again? or was it the mainboard was fried?
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Hmm so you think replacing my mainboard would stop this from happeneing again? Replacing the battery the first time this happened fixed the issue? When yours was fixed, did it do it again? or was it the mainboard was fried?
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The mainboard was not fried. When they changed the damaged usb charge port(and the battery as per Samsung policy), it powered up, but would still not charge. So the next step was a new mainboard. From my understanding, and what the tech guy told me, these authorized Samsung service centers follow Samsung's procedure when warranty repairing a device.
It's been more than a month and no problems so far. It's like I got a new phone
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The mainboard was not fried. When they changed the damaged usb charge port(and the battery as per Samsung policy), it powered up, but would still not charge. So the next step was a new mainboard. From my understanding, and what the tech guy told me, these authorized Samsung service centers follow Samsung's procedure when warranty repairing a device.
It's been more than a month and no problems so far. It's like I got a new phone
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Yeah they do. I'm sure I'm gonna have the same issue again. If I purposefully let the battery drain to 0, i'm sure this stuff will happen again. I don't want to be caught with my pants on the ground. I'm thinking, get the mainboard/pone replaced will stop me from ever having to fret again.
Have you ever tried letting the battery go to 0% with your new phone?
It's very rare my phone goes to 0%. I always charge at night because I want a fully charged phone in the morning. I don't want to experiment or test this new repair by killing the battery on purpose. From what I have been reading(and I read a lot when this happened to mine), it not a good idea to completely discharge lithium batteries. That doesn't mean if you do, the battery should fail, it's just better for the life of the battery.
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It's very rare my phone goes to 0%. I always charge at night because I want a fully charged phone in the morning. I don't want to experiment or test this new repair by killing the battery on purpose. From what I have been reading(and I read a lot when this happened to mine), it not a good idea to completely discharge lithium batteries. That doesn't mean if you do, the battery should fail, it's just better for the life of the battery.
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So you haven't tested to see if it'd happen again? I've heard this is an issue with like 25% of them. I had drained my battery to 0 like once or twice before this happened. I don't want this to happen anymore and I am sure if I were to sell this to somoen else, they'd have gotten to a point where the drained to 0%. Most avg user don't know this and I dont' want a phone that can run into a danger of doing it