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I have been looking at the camera, he actually and ordinary card machine than what outstanding? Easy to use? The best a few proofs, give me have a look.
Awsome camera go into the main general thread there is a best pics thread with some good pics . Ive just updated it so it should be near the top
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What I generally tell people who ask me that very same question, is this, admittedly there are cheaper cameras that produce a better image quality, that's not to say the photos are rubbish, I just know that you could spend considerably less for the same or equal image quality.
You're paying a premium for what it is, as there is only one other device like it on the market right now (more are on the way) if you buy this camera, you're definitely buying it as a WANT, not a NEED and probably succumbing to the need to have the latest and greatest tech.
The functionality you get over a standard point-and-shoot (PaS) is definitely the key thing here, I've not plugged this thing in to a computer to transfer images one, it's all done over the air.
I will go out, take whatever photos and by the time I've got home, they are already waiting for me to view, whether that's on Google+ via it's auto upload feature, or the full size images that have been synced through to my machines via dropbox. The ability to instantly share those photos using any method available to the Android platform is another massive bonus, as well as all the editing apps available on the platform too.
The lens on the camera gives ample range and in some cases greater than other, normal, cameras out there and the pre defined "Smart Settings" work very well, as well as the manual settings which for me, is a very welcomed feature.
The remote viewfinder and the ability to control the camera from your phone is an excellent feature, doing group shots, with yourself in the group is now an easy thing to do, without the hassle of setting a timer and running back etc...
One problem I have found with the camera, which will get better with upcoming software updates I believe, is the occasional lag, not just in the camera app but the while device and it's no where near as quick to load from a cold boot.
Overall it's a great device, the build quality is good and all the features you get from having the Android OS bolted on is great. But only you can decide whether you think it's worth shelling out the money they're asking for it and if not now, maybe when the price drops you might. And if your sole requirement is to have the best image quality possible and nothing else, then there are other cameras in the same price bracket that yield better results.
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Anyone know anything about phone camera sensors?
Wondering if it's a hardware- or software-limitation that stopping us from shooting in RAW rather than JPG.
Can't seem to find anything remotely close to a whitepaper regarding the technology.
I think Android OS doesn't allow saving raw files taken by the camera.
Furthermore, since each cell phone could mount different sensors, each brand would have to develop a lot of drivers to save in raw and provide "album app" with drivers to be able to read them.
In addition, raw files are so heavy that they need more time to be saved (slower camera app).
Most of people uses the phone for take and shot pics, almost anybody is really interested in the extra quality provided by raw... Even usually compact cameras can't shoot in raw mode, and I know some people who own a dslr and still shoot in jpg...
I would love shooting in raw mode too, but I think it's a huge utopia.
there have been several android based devices that allow shooting in RAW, the Z seems to be restricted by its driver..\
you can shoot with uncompressed png in some software, but other than upping the file size it doesn't do a lot to improve the quality.
fards said:
there have been several android based devices that allow shooting in RAW, the Z seems to be restricted by its driver..\
you can shoot with uncompressed png in some software, but other than upping the file size it doesn't do a lot to improve the quality.
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Could you tell me one of that android based deviced which allow shooting in RAW? :S
Is RAW a better extension (higher quality) than JPG and PNG then?
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Is RAW a better extension (higher quality) than JPG and PNG then?
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Yes,it's a file created directly from the cmos or ccd without any software manipulation.
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Don't doubt what you fellas are saying, though you have to admit that - despite the lack of a dedicated imaging engine supporting the sensor - the speed of the inbuilt NAND and the capabilities of the S4 shouldn't really preclude the Z from managing this (surely better than the most capable Cybershot).
Admittedly (or I'd gladly accept) there'd be a lack of modes like panorama and burst, but that's of little bother when framing a single portrait or landscape shot. Would be great (a pipedream?) if they could implement it...might give PureView a run for it's money (personally think UltraPixels are a non-starter, but Sigma made it work with Foveon so there may still be some legs in it).
Can continue to hope, I s'pose.
Guys, it's a tiny phone sensor. Not even most compact cameras can shoot in RAW. It just doesn't have much use for a phone.
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Guys, it's a tiny phone sensor. Not even most compact cameras can shoot in RAW. It just doesn't have much use for a phone.
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My low end HTC Incredible S could shoot RAW....
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Guys, it's a tiny phone sensor. Not even most compact cameras can shoot in RAW. It just doesn't have much use for a phone.
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Beg to differ. Reckon by having the direct sensor output rather than anything post-processed we'd end up with a few happier folk in these forums.
And given the additional data there'd be more room for movement using the likes of Snapseed and Photoshop Touch while mobile.
Not intending for this to replace any dedicated equipment, but the only good camera is the one on you: if you can score that perfect moment with only your phone, the opportunity to do so with the greatest amount of raw data will make up for some of the deficiencies of the sensor, allowing for post-processing on the desktop.
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just came out today,? is will their be a mod to put note 8 120hz or im i going to hear the magic words ...no its hardware thing?
Um ... why , 2k screen at a 120hz would take some power. Plus with small size really wouldn't be worth it. High fps really only matters in shooters on pc. On a phone there are too many weak links to make it good for games that would call for 120hz..
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Um ... why , 2k screen at a 120hz would take some power. Plus with small size really wouldn't be worth it. High fps really only matters in shooters on pc. On a phone there are too many weak links to make it good for games that would call for 120hz..
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Hz (refresh) is not the same as fps (framerate)...
And higher refresh rate actually makes everything smoother, including simple animations, etc. For example, I have a three monitor setup (2 x 60hz, 1 x 144hz), and you can easily see the difference just by moving the mouse cursor. Much smoother and easier on the eyes.
Razer includes a 4000mah battery...if Samsung bumps up the Note's battery capacity again in the future (and/or introduces further OS optimization for increased efficiency) then it could mitigate any additional draw in power. Personally, I think a Note 9 or 10 with faster refresh would be sweet
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Hz (refresh) is not the same as fps (framerate)...
And higher refresh rate actually makes everything smoother, including simple animations, etc. For example, I have a three monitor setup (2 x 60hz, 1 x 144hz), and you can easily see the difference just by moving the mouse cursor. Much smoother and easier on the eyes.
Razer includes a 4000mah battery...if Samsung bumps up the Note's battery capacity again in the future (and/or introduces further OS optimization for increased efficiency) then it could mitigate any additional draw in power. Personally, I think a Note 9 or 10 with faster refresh would be sweet
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thanks for the tech lesson, i know wha hz is,but can its be done though?
hz works in movies to with smooth transitions
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thanks for the tech lesson, i know wha hz is,but can its be done though?
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...I was replying to the other post (that I quoted).
Yes it can be done, the Razer just did it. Not likely on the Note 8 though, but can't really say for sure. I do know that the refresh rates of some monitors can be overclocked, but it only works up to a certain point (much like ram or processors). So even if it were possible to increase refresh on the Note 8, I don't think it would be anywhere the Razer's 120hz. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong though.
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...I was replying to the other post (that I quoted).
Yes it can be done, the Razer just did it. Not likely on the Note 8 though, but can't really say for sure. I do know that the refresh rates of some monitors can be overclocked, but it only works up to a certain point (much like ram or processors). So even if it were possible to increase refresh on the Note 8, I don't think it would be anywhere the Razer's 120hz. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong though.
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i dont think the note even running 60 fully,its could be cool if their 60hz mod like the qhd 60fps,i think the note 8 exynos can handle 60hz or 120hz,that software not hardware
Deezy88 said:
i dont think the note even running 60 fully,its could be cool if their 60hz mod like the qhd 60fps,i think the note 8 exynos can handle 60hz or 120hz,that software not hardware
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Just found this article which explains a lot:
https://www.androidauthority.com/120hz-displays-the-future-or-just-a-gimmick-782717/
Sounds like the refresh rate on the Note 8 could theoretically be increased through software alone, but that it would likely introduce issues such as screen tearing, etc. In contrast, the Razer's panel (for example) has hardware technology to reduce or eliminate these types of artifacts. So I'd say yes it could techically be done on the Note 8 to some degree, but even then the results wouldn't be great. Better to have the hardware that makes it work right and delivers the desired/expected visual experience.
OLED is not able to do those high refresh rates yet.... Its hardware
Even if you got it to work it would absolutely kill the battery and if/any games even are optimized for 120 hz is another story.
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Hz (refresh) is not the same as fps (framerate)...
And higher refresh rate actually makes everything smoother, including simple animations, etc. For example, I have a three monitor setup (2 x 60hz, 1 x 144hz), and you can easily see the difference just by moving the mouse cursor. Much smoother and easier on the eyes.
Razer includes a 4000mah battery...if Samsung bumps up the Note's battery capacity again in the future (and/or introduces further OS optimization for increased efficiency) then it could mitigate any additional draw in power. Personally, I think a Note 9 or 10 with faster refresh would be sweet
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You can see the difference if you have the video/game that uses it otherwise it's number theater . I would venture most folks couldn't tell between 60 and 144 unless it was in action. 24 to 60 yes, but beyond 60 is splitting hairs. Also on the small form factor of a phone, with the control latency of a phone not sure tour getting bang for buck . I am aware that Hz and fps are different ,just as I am aware that using different refresh rates in a triple monitor set up is just asking for problems as well. To me it's just the same as THX speakers on a phone or Dolby Atmos on a phone, yes they're there but it's more like a gimmick because of the small form factor. I am also biased towards pc gaming , and could not imagine playing any serious shooter on a phone, just like I couldn't do it on a console either(but at least consoles have the horsepower now).
My biggest fear is this catches on and Samsung ditches it's Amoled displays for LCD just to get the specs for the next phone.
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No as I said you can see the difference just moving a mouse (or watching movies, etc). Also, no issues at all in a triple monitor setup with different refresh rates, so long as you know what you're doing. Obviously if you try and play a game on 3 monitors at once with different rates then you're asking for trouble lol. Anyways, moot point now as OP's question has been answered.
Animation in android
Can the animations and UI in android currently even run at 120? Are they not rendered at or around 60fps?
sefrcoko said:
Just found this article which explains a lot:
https://www.androidauthority.com/120hz-displays-the-future-or-just-a-gimmick-782717/
Sounds like the refresh rate on the Note 8 could theoretically be increased through software alone, but that it would likely introduce issues such as screen tearing, etc. In contrast, the Razer's panel (for example) has hardware technology to reduce or eliminate these types of artifacts. So I'd say yes it could techically be done on the Note 8 to some degree, but even then the results wouldn't be great. Better to have the hardware that makes it work right and delivers the desired/expected visual experience.
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I wouldn't put too much credit in this article. They seem to be sort of talking out of their asses on this.
Adaptive display technologies reduce screen tearing yes, but their main benefit is the reduction of resources. Allow me to explain.
Your free to correct me if I'm wrong but this is my full understanding.
When a screen displays an image it has to get told to display an image. However, it's not quite as simple as the CPU saying, please display an image.
The screen will continue to display an image until it's told to Change to a new one (think of when your PC freezes. This is why the image can sometimes freeze. The display adapter has stopped sending new images to the monitor).
So what happens when your computer is creating a new image, 1000x a second? Well, it would tell the display to "display" 1000 images in a single second, even though it's only capable of let's say 60 (this is where 60hzcomes from) this creates the tearing effect. To combat this there are controls we can use, Such as vertical sync, where we can just Pull an image from that 1000 image pool when we want to display a new image. For example, your phone might tell android, since it is running at 60hz to just pull a new image from that pool once every second. We could also limit the software to only create a new image once every second as well to combat this. The problem with these is they require CPU cycles. And they have an impact on the memory, with the frame buffer holding that 1000 count image pool. Ideally went want the CPU to only worry about creating an image when we 'want' one. So that it can move on to the next process in it's Queue.
With adaptive display technology, we can 'sync' these two numbers without creating a significant performance impact, and because we have synced them the overall smooth transitions require less motion smoothing, or blur effects that alot of movies might use to help create that clean look (This magic is why movies at 24fps look fluid). When it comes to Android, 120hz vs 60hz would most definitely be noticeable, so long as UI transitions and the OS itself had animations that could display 120 different frames. Currently I think that it does not. Also, let's be honest, until the hardware starts supporting it, android won't support it. We are starting to see that support now, in the Razer phone and in some Sony phones.
I am unsure of the currently refresh limits of OLED. I do know however that OLEDs response time is faster than that of LCD. Response time doesn't directly effect refresh rate, That would be the job of the display controller, or whatever that strip is called haha. Response time is important though as it'll determine the quality of the images being displayed at higher refresh rates. Which would be the significant factor in whether you would want your display running at 120hz or simply 60hz
Also... Before anyone chimes in, with "you can't see more than 60 frames per second" your wrong. Don't bother. Sorry, but you've done zero research.
Note 8
So samsung Note 8 runs on 60 GHz?
And razer runs on 120 GHz
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So samsung Note 8 runs on 60 GHz?
And razer runs on 120 GHz
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No, just Hz. And yes, 60 &120. Did you join xda just to ask this question ?
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Hello Stalwarts
I will be digitalizing all family photos in the cloud soon. They range from B&W from 70s to late 90s. I have a semi professional 'photo-box' set up to place photos in there and click them using either phone.
For those who have both, can you kindly comment on quality of photos for these two - as in should I take them with PG pixel and let Google store in Full res or take them on Pixel 5 and store in Google Photos at 'standard resolution' now called Storage saver quality
- Is the latter good enough for viewing on a laptop / phone screen for quick access ?
- Also is the latter good enough for 5" X 7" prints if I need them at a later date ?
Any other thoughts / ideas on above method, pros cons critique ?
PS I do not want to set up a home NAS/RAID etc etc as I am dissatisfied with the phone app of any such service [ e.g. Moments ] that I researched and the price plans of current paid non Google providers such as MS/pCloud etc etc .
PPS Price is a semi- object. I already have a OG Pixel and Pixel 3. So those are no cost to me but if the (standard resolution) picture quality of Pixel 5 is that much better, I will buy a Pixel 5 (or 6 if they allow unlimited standard res back up Like the Pixel 5 ) for this specific purpose.
Am I crazy ?
"standard resolution" isn't a function of the phone/camera but a function of Google Photos when images are sent to it. I suppose there will be some differences based on the source photos but I'd be shocked if you could see them.
As to whether you will notice the difference between the original and "standard" in a print your best bet would be to print one of each and see what you think. Your eyeballs are the only ones that count in that instance.
Personally I let Photos do standard resolution and then also save the original on my own file server. I can use Photos to view and the originals to print if I want to.
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"standard resolution" isn't a function of the phone/camera but a function of Google Photos when images are sent to it. I suppose there will be some differences based on the source photos but I'd be shocked if you could see them.
As to whether you will notice the difference between the original and "standard" in a print your best bet would be to print one of each and see what you think. Your eyeballs are the only ones that count in that instance.
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Thank you for replying
I understand Std Res is function of google photos, but I wonder how the FULL res of camera / sensor from 2016 of Pixel OG compares to "just the std res" of photo from camera / sensor from Pixel 5 of 2020
Not sure if that clarifies my qn
Do your homework. Save at native resolution; you should dictate the resolution not Gookill!
I would also put them on the PC and back them up to at least 2 hdds that are physically* and electronically isolated from each other as well as from the PC. Do Not encrypt.
Trusting cloud backup can turn into the perfect storm and complete data loss.
There are only two kinds of data users, those who have lost data... and those who will.
Always use redundant backup for critical data.
*best stored in a earth grounded box or safe in separate locations. Rewrite them every 2-3 years.
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Do your homework. Save at native resolution; you should dictate the resolution not Gookill!
I would also put them on the PC and back them up to at least 2 hdds that are physically* and electronically isolated from each other as well as from the PC. Do Not encrypt.
Trusting cloud backup can turn into the perfect storm and complete data loss.
There are only two kinds of data users, those who have lost data... and those who will.
Always use redundant backup for critical data.
*best stored in a earth grounded box or safe in separate locations. Rewrite them every 2-3 years.
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hmmmm
thank you for chiming in
I agree that redundancy is the key but I always thought cloud services from a Big corp like Gookill will have much much more ways to back up to protect them from loss than my 2 well grounded brand name HDDs/SSDs.
I would love to save all of them in full res but in Pixel 5, those count towards the google 15GB limit, hence the qn of saving in Full res with OG pixel ( where they dont count) or use newer cam / sensor of Pixel 5 and just use standard res
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hmmmm
thank you for chiming in
I agree that redundancy is the key but I always thought cloud services from a Big corp like Gookill will have much much more ways to back up to protect them from loss than my 2 well grounded brand name HDDs/SSDs.
I would love to save all of them in full res but in Pixel 5, those count towards the google 15GB limit, hence the qn of saving in Full res with OG pixel ( where they dont count) or use newer cam / sensor of Pixel 5 and just use standard res
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Originals should always be stored at full resolution. It's a no brainer.
For sharing lower res can be used... they are throw aways.
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Originals should always be stored at full resolution. It's a no brainer.
For sharing lower res can be used... they are throw aways.
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I agree
I have a feeling that my question is not being understood
I want to use GooKill photos as primary source of back up
for free
options to use gookill photos are pixels
OG pixel @ native full res
or
Pixel 5 but at 'standard' resolution
anyone has opinion / experience how std res of P5 in Google photos compares to full res of PG pixel ? mainly for viewing on phone/24" screen and occasionally for printing no bigger than 5 x 7 s
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I agree
I have a feeling that my question is not being understood
I want to use GooKill photos as primary source of back up
for free
options to use gookill photos are pixels
OG pixel @ native full res
or
Pixel 5 but at 'standard' resolution
anyone has opinion / experience how std res of P5 in Google photos compares to full res of PG pixel ? mainly for viewing on phone/24" screen and occasionally for printing no bigger than 5 x 7 s
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Primary backup should always be multiple hdds.
I prefer enterprise class drives but the chances of losing 3 properly stored standard hdds at once is still astronomically high.
They will likely outlive you... no offense intended.
Make sure they are brought to room temp before spinning them up. Magnetic retention is better at a lower constant temperature ie 50-70°F
Always protect them from near lightning strikes and magnets... like bookshelf speakers.
I have ones that still remained readable with no data corruption after 10 years in less than ideal conditions. They can be quit durable.
You can never have too much backup.
Hi.
I want to ask, if theres any way, to get the phone to just save the RAW Sensor output with 108MP without compressing or altering
the image in any way?
I also ask myself already all the time, why the 108MP setting is only possible in the stock camera app.
If you use for example open camera, its not possible to set a resolution bigger than 12MP. Is this a error, or why does
this happen?
Regards
The 108 mp is hype. The top Canon pro cam is 24.1 mp on a sensor many times bigger. It delivers much sharper, higher resolution images than any smartphone can. It also uses lens that have exponentially more light gathering ability.
Bigger pixels mean more light gathering ability and a higher signal to noise ratio. The noise floor is constant and you need a strong enough signal to overcome it even in digital data sampling.
The highest reasonable mp size for a phone cam sersor is 20mp but 12mp is probably ideal. Sound familiar?
At 108mp that sensor's light gathering ability is almost nothing especially with a lense that size.
Maybe in bright light stills but even then it may lack the bandwidth and processor power to accommodate that amount of data.
How many raw 108 mp images would you even want to store if it was possible?
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Hi.
I want to ask, if theres any way, to get the phone to just save the RAW Sensor output with 108MP without compressing or altering
the image in any way?
I also ask myself already all the time, why the 108MP setting is only possible in the stock camera app.
If you use for example open camera, its not possible to set a resolution bigger than 12MP. Is this a error, or why does
this happen?
Regards
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If you are on stock MIUI, there's the possibility to make 108 but if you compare with a gcam app like Shamim V12 you'll see that the 108 of MIUI is not as good as gcam pixel binning, further more more storage is needed
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If you are on stock MIUI, there's the possibility to make 108 but if you compare with a gcam app like Shamim V12 you'll see that the 108 of MIUI is not as good as gcam pixel binning, further more more storage is needed
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They had been far better off using larger pixels with better microlense quality/design than doing the binning garbage. Binning only screws up the signal to noise ratio more by increasing the noise floor. A smartphone is already a warm, electronicly noisy device as it is... the enemies of cmos sensors.
Binning is effective to a point at the cost of resolution for low light performance. 108mp binning on a sensor of the size used on smartphones seems counterproductive. Binning can introduce artifacts to the image.
Yes yes yes, I know about the disadvntages of this high resolution, I am into DSLR photography,
but I want to see how the RAW picture from the sensor at full resolution the sensor can deliver looks.
It seems to be impossible to get on a real RAW photo on Stock MIUI ROM?
(I Want to install another ROM anyways, but still waiting for bootloader unlock permission)
Do you have a rom to suggest, that is able to make real 108MP RAW photos, and probably 8k Video (The sensor A Samsung
Isocell HM2 supports that, the ROM doesnt)
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They had been far better off using larger pixels with better microlense quality/design than doing the binning garbage. Binning only screws up the signal to noise ratio more by increasing the noise floor. A smartphone is already a warm, electronicly noisy device as it is... the enemies of cmos sensors.
Binning is effective to a point at the cost of resolution for low light performance. 108mp binning on a sensor of the size used on smartphones seems counterproductive. Binning can introduce artifacts to the image.
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You're right.
But 108 stock isn't good as 12 in gcam, or what you think?
Which cam and settings you're using?
GCAM Doesnt allow 108MP, the stock camera APP seems to be the only one that allows 108, but only as JPG, not
as RAW10 the sensor can output native.
I want to see, how a photo in 108MP looks straight out of the sensor, but it seems not that easy to get
your hnds on one, without the device modifies it before...
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You're right.
But 108 stock isn't good as 12 in gcam, or what you think?
Which cam and settings you're using?
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Don't have this phone. It's likely optimized at or near the best ratio.
At higher brightness levels and if digitally zoomed in it may deliver higher resolution (for that given area).
It's seems these manufacturers now have a rather pointless pixel race in progress.
So to say it short: No one here knows how to get RAW 108MP Photos out of the sensor?
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No such thing is my guess. The hardware has to support that method of output. The best you can do is whatever the lowest binning rate is. If has provisions to access individual pixels on a hardware level it be possible.
The Hardware (Sensor) can do RAW 10 at full 108MP resolution, see here:
108MP ISOCELL HM2 | Mobile Image Sensor | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Samsung ISOCELL HM2 mobile image sensor brings every detail of your scene to life. It delivers 108MP, 0.7um pixel size and Real-time HDR.
semiconductor.samsung.com
It also can record at 8k 24fps or 4k 120fps, but the device doesnt allow 8k at all, and 4k recording only at 30fps...
It seems that they have locked down the software, for what reason ever, probably because its a mid class phone, to prevent
it come too near to the upper class devices...
Its camera also makes already very good photos, if you know what you have to set in the settings. I really would
like to see how this would look in 10Bits uncompressed RAW at 108MP, I tried to upload here one of the 108MP JPG Photos,
but it broke the forum:
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Heres a Dropbox Link for the Picture:
IMG_20220328_153250.jpg
Shared with Dropbox
www.dropbox.com
Best is to download it and then take a look on it, the Previev on Dropbox seems to have some issues to handle that resolution.
affirmative it's possible as of today, previously the sensors full potential wasn't accessible due to the extensive os and system feature lock downs but even after the phones themselves were capable of being unlocked the sensor still remained unavailable because it has it's own dedicated chipset that has a dedicated partial operation and algorithm system which meant that it couldn't be modified or accessed unless you had very specialized equipment. there's a lot of technical complexity that i've forgoed elaborating upon to keep this response less lengthy lol, at any rate after roughly a year of effort i've finally found a way to bypass all of the restrictions and i'll be potentially publishing the results of the code named C.I.A.R.A. project once my tests are complete and furthermore i may be able to make such feature functionality commercially available and distributable once the project has been thoroughly and fully completed in all of it's entirely lol.
^_^
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affirmative it's possible as of today, previously the sensors full potential wasn't accessible due to the extensive os and system feature lock downs but even after the phones themselves were capable of being unlocked the sensor still remained unavailable because it has it's own dedicated chipset that has a dedicated partial operation and algorithm system which meant that it couldn't be modified or accessed unless you had very specialized equipment. there's a lot of technical complexity that i've forgoed elaborating upon to keep this response less lengthy lol, at any rate after roughly a year of effort i've finally found a way to bypass all of the restrictions and i'll be potentially publishing the results of the code named C.I.A.R.A. project once my tests are complete and furthermore i may be able to make such feature functionality commercially available and distributable once the project has been thoroughly and fully completed in all of it's entirely lol.
^_^
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Welcome to XDA.
Pictures or it never happened.
The individual pixels are so minuscule their sampling capture is pathetic and is further exacerbated by the noise floor/noise cancellation errors. Good pixel lens at this microscopic size... no such thing especially at this price point.
A good 26mp even 20mp sensor can capture a sufficient amount of detail for even poster size blowups. These are full frame sensors with precision pixel lens.
Samsung knows this... you'll get a mushy raw image with a hugh file size. Perfect.
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Pictures or it never happened.
The individual pixels are so minuscule their sampling capture is pathetic and is further exacerbated by the noise floor/noise cancellation errors. Good pixel lens at this microscopic size... no such thing especially at this price point.
A good 26mp even 20mp sensor can capture a sufficient amount of detail for even poster size blowups. These are full frame sensors with precision pixel lens.
Samsung knows this... you'll get a mushy raw image with a hugh file size. Perfect.
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that's a bit of an impolite thing to say although rest assured once it's finished i'll have to find a platform to upload it to so that it can be accessed and viewed without compression, one individual recommended google photos or documents or something like that lol and indeed i usually enjoy the benefits of high resolution capture for forest and nature based photography as of such i usually utilize it during the daytime so the pixel light collection area size isn't a concern for me personally lol also affirmativ the standardized twelve to twenty four megapixel resolution of most modern camera's likely work for the majority of individuals lol.
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nosidamXumres said:
that's a bit of an impolite thing to say although rest assured once it's finished i'll have to find a platform to upload it to so that it can be accessed and viewed without compression, one individual recommended google photos or documents or something like that lol and indeed i usually enjoy the benefits of high resolution capture for forest and nature based photography as of such i usually utilize it during the daytime so the pixel light collection area size isn't a concern for me personally lol also affirmativ the standardized twelve to twenty four megapixel resolution of most modern camera's likely work for the majority of individuals lol.
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Not impolite, blunt.
I don't think it's capable of much greater resolution than it's getting as is.
Grabbing a good sample per pixel is more important than number of pixels.
16mp is a lot.
As is the file size you're going to get with a raw...
nosidamXumres said:
affirmative it's possible as of today, previously the sensors full potential wasn't accessible due to the extensive os and system feature lock downs but even after the phones themselves were capable of being unlocked the sensor still remained unavailable because it has it's own dedicated chipset that has a dedicated partial operation and algorithm system which meant that it couldn't be modified or accessed unless you had very specialized equipment. there's a lot of technical complexity that i've forgoed elaborating upon to keep this response less lengthy lol, at any rate after roughly a year of effort i've finally found a way to bypass all of the restrictions and i'll be potentially publishing the results of the code named C.I.A.R.A. project once my tests are complete and furthermore i may be able to make such feature functionality commercially available and distributable once the project has been thoroughly and fully completed in all of it's entirely lol.
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We look forward to your project.
So the code , I take it directly interfaces with the camera or not ?
any elaborations there ?
NEWTINGZ said:
We look forward to your project.
So the code , I take it directly interfaces with the camera or not ?
any elaborations there ?
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affirmative that is correct traditionally the only information that comes from specifically the one hundred and eight megapixel sensor with moderate exceptions to the others is the data that has been processed by it's onboard algorithm to compress and save space with and roughly the only information going to that sensors chipset is traditionally update and diagnostic information but now that's been technically bypassed utilizing a code and language that unfortunately can only be emulated which makes it very inefficient because it was designed for completely different custom hardware but nonetheless the project is complete, where can i find a compressionless platform to upload and share my photos? also the image's on average are roughly almost a hundred and fifty megabytes including various metadata lol.
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nosidamXumres said:
affirmative that is correct traditionally the only information that comes from specifically the one hundred and eight megapixel sensor with moderate exceptions to the others is the data that has been processed by it's onboard algorithm to compress and save space with and roughly the only information going to that sensors chipset is traditionally update and diagnostic information but now that's been technically bypassed utilizing a code and language that unfortunately can only be emulated which makes it very inefficient because it was designed for completely different custom hardware but nonetheless the project is complete, where can i find a compressionless platform to upload and share my photos? also the image's on average are roughly almost a hundred and fifty megabytes including various metadata lol.
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Hey there!
i have been waiting for some update on the project.
This might help-
READ THIS FIRST - Development Rules
I know we all have busy lives and don't have time to go through a list of long winded rules, so here's a shortened version to make your life easier Only the following topics are allowed in DEVELOPMENT area: [DEV] - Development for any special...
forum.xda-developers.com
You can create a new thread for the development of the project you have made and store the images in a .zip file and share the file with dropbox, gdrive or mega etc.
(Remember to attach the code, and some information about it in the thread you make.)
M0nK_101 said:
Hey there!
i have been waiting for some update on the project.
This might help-
READ THIS FIRST - Development Rules
I know we all have busy lives and don't have time to go through a list of long winded rules, so here's a shortened version to make your life easier Only the following topics are allowed in DEVELOPMENT area: [DEV] - Development for any special...
forum.xda-developers.com
You can create a new thread for the development of the project you have made and store the images in a .zip file and share the file with dropbox, gdrive or mega etc.
(Remember to attach the code, and some information about it in the thread you make.)
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thanks for the suggestions i appreciate it, i created a post attaching images and sharing a google drive link lol.
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Thread 's21 ultra 108mp raw' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/s21-ultra-108mp-raw.4589163/
nosidamXumres said:
thanks for the suggestions i appreciate it, i created a post attaching images and sharing a google drive link lol.
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Thread 's21 ultra 108mp raw' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/s21-ultra-108mp-raw.4589163/
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I read your new post and it's amazing
Hopefully, you'll make the new project available to the public soon.
If you want help, there are many individuals on the internet, you don't need to disclose the language used or anything confidential.
All you need to do, is explain the concept of how you made it possible, and probably there will be someone who'll come for the rescue.
one more suggestion -
you can open a github repo, and add the code which you are trying to make (the latest one), there might be someone who could help....
(ty for mentioning me, it's fine ^_^)
also, both communities of rn10pro and s21_ultra can help you, just gotta mention the working and goal of your idea, and it'll work.