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how come only iphone has it...? it is the main reason why everybody loves it...
Basically it's a sharp display. Iphone makes it, really not too much better than say Super Amoled.
Super Amoled blows the Retina Display out of the water imo.
DirkGently1 said:
Super Amoled blows the Retina Display out of the water imo.
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Having tried both i would say the Super amoled is the better screen
because it made their job easier to upscale their apps 2x to keep em compatible
1.5x upscale would of been blurry and cpu intensive , they really didnt have a choice
after realizing this , they wrapped it in their good ol' magical marketing concept which is about persuading you to believe that apple products are made by not engineers , but wizzards
souljaboy said:
after realizing this , they wrapped it in their good ol' magical marketing concept which is about persuading you to believe that apple products are made by not engineers , but wizzards
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A marketing concept full of lies and pretty words and yet extremely successful.
htrx said:
A marketing concept full of lies and pretty words and yet extremely successful.
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That's why marketing managers earn more than engineers.
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how come only iphone has it...? it is the main reason why everybody loves it...
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It's not
Google up Sharp IS03
The so-called "Retina Display" is just a damned buzzword. It's basically a hi-res screen which is, as previously stated, inferior to S-AMOLED.
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That's why marketing managers earn more than engineers.
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Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad.
Besides the screen quality.. the others could increase their resolution as well. Like 480x800 they could find a new standard I think..
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Super Amoled blows the Retina Display out of the water imo.
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retina display is pretty good, but there is something super amoled that just jumps at you.
it's great.
I didn't think too much about this tech till I watched the video. Near the end of the video, you will see what I mean. Something the Knight Rider would gush at.
The video is toward the bottom of the page and is the Bose suspension video
http://www.gizmag.com/electromagnetic-automobile-suspension-demonstrated/18331/
Amazing!
great for my roads!
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Amazing!
great for my roads!
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Hahaha...same here. The local gov deliberately lets the roads go to hell to beef up the local auto repair businesses...lol That means they are generally rough to the point of swallowing a whole car in some extreme cases.
I wonder if that suspension tech would be able to leap over such holes...LOL
Haha.
It will certainly make drink driving a lot easier.....cup of coffee I mean, of course
Less spillage
Magnets. How do they work?
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Magnets. How do they work?
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Fantasically! According to that demonstration...hehe. This is pretty much a more advanced version of an active suspension system where the struts are electrically controlled. It's actually basically rather simple in design, but the complexity comes from integrating electronics and all the associated hardware...like a CPU and all the sophisticated software and algorithms. Apparently the demonstrated system is using some kind of distance detection system...maybe infrared, radar or laser based...because the car actually jumps up like a horse before getting to the obstacle. Either that or it is a well created photoshop video where a ramp was made to look like a wall.
How did the car like jump on the last bit? :confused;
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Fantasically! According to that demonstration...hehe. This is pretty much a more advanced version of an active suspension system where the struts are electrically controlled. It's actually basically rather simple in design, but the complexity comes from integrating electronics and all the associated hardware...like a CPU and all the sophisticated software and algorithms. Apparently the demonstrated system is using some kind of distance detection system...maybe infrared, radar or laser based...because the car actually jumps up like a horse before getting to the obstacle. Either that or it is a well created photoshop video where a ramp was made to look like a wall.
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Surprisingly;
1. You answered the trolls number 1 troll question.
2. You answered the question wrong. The question was how do magnets work, not the concept we see above.
From the website:
"SVP allows you to watch any video on your PC file with frame interpolation (like you can watch it on high-end TVs and projectors). It increases frame rate by generating intermediate animation frames between existing ones to produce very smooth, fluid and clear motion. The technology is well-known for a while ("TrimensionDNM", "Motion Plus", "Motionflow" and others), but now it's available for free to PC users with simple GUI and just a couple of mouse clicks.
SVP provides GPU acceleration and it's possible to watch FullHD 1080p-video recalculated to 60Hz in real-time with mid-range CPU and almost any GPU hardware.
SVP actually is not a video player itself, but it enables almost any player to play smooth video."
I've been using this for a few days now and have been blown away by it. The initial kneejerk reaction when using it for the first time is that it's a little odd. We're so used to seeing video played back at the same low frame rates that we've had for decades that it takes a little time for the brain to adapt. For the first couple of hours of using it myself i had no intention of keeping it installed. After the second day of using it you couldn't pay me to go back to watching low frame rate video again! It's a night and day difference.
I could go on being effusive but you really need to try it yourselves to make your own minds up. All i would say is use it for a couple of days. You'll be impressed. The SVP package includes, and is preconfigured for MPC-HC. It does work with other players too though. I would recommend installing the full package using the default settings, ensuring that you've removed any other instances of MPC, Codecs and Filters first. And you do need reasonably decent hardware to run it well too.
Playing back a 1080 video uses 40% on all cores with my 3770K and 25% on my GTX570. I for one am actually glad to have something to run on a daily basis that justifies having spent money on good hardware though. Today i've watched a selection of HD movies and sport and each time it's taken my breath away how life-like everything appears. The clarity and immersion is incredible.
Here are some more links about SVP and HFR video:
Guru3D
Short Wikipedia entry
Interactive Demo
Demo Videos
Here are two short clips from Sons Of Anarchy. The first is normal framerate and the second at 60fps:
Original
HFR
The difference should be immediately obvious watching those two clips. If it's your first time watching HFR playback you might have experienced what people call the 'soap opera effect'. I know i did. That's what takes getting used to, but you soon do. It's LFR video that looks wrong to me now!
The flip side to using Frame Interpolation is artifacting. I found it intolerable with the default SVP settings, but setting 'Artifacts Masking' to 'Strongest' in each Profile has almost completely eliminated it for me. I might notice it once or twice during an entire movie only using that setting. Beside that, you might want to select the option for running SVP at Windows Startup and disabling the SVP On Screen Display too.
It's a profound change. James Cameron and Peter Jackson say it's the future of film. I would agree. Give it a go and see for yourselves.
Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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Is it free?
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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I know what it is.
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I know what it is.
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Lets be straight you were wrong firstly stop promoting amazon on aliens private chat forum
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Is there a tl;dr version?
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Is there a tl;dr version?
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No its a super boost mod for space ship DX-164B
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Is it free?
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I know its tl; dr but at least read the first paragraph.
I'm watching live sport at normal framerate right now and it looks like a stuttering, jittery mess. Once you go HFR, you can't go back.
Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
Will give this a try, i am used to that effect on the TV already, it wont matter.
Aaand welcome back Dirk! Again!
Quoting wiki here "Thomas Edison said that 46 frames per second was the minimum: 'anything less will strain the eye.'"
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Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
Yup Hobbit was 48fps..they are critics after all. I thought higher fps in 3D=less strain.
Anyway, I tried reading about this whole frame rate and eye thing yesterday night and gave up. Glad i didn't take up medicine in college...
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
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The human eye doesn't see in still frames, The reason why shooting at 24fps became standard was because first, it was just high enough to give a sequence of images a continuous look, while second being not so high that it became too expensive in celluloid costs.
As for The Hobbit. Remember the kneejerk reaction i mentioned? After a century of film being played back at 24fps we have become used to that. Of course it looks a little strange at first when seeing HFR for the first time. For most people, watching The Hobbit was the very first time they had been exposed to it. A lot of people conceded that by the end of the film they had not only grown accustomed to it, but also didn't notice it any more. It took all of a couple of hours for the soap opera effect to disappear for me too, as it does for everyone. As i said in the OP, you have to use it for a day.
Have a look at the Poll results on CNET. Most people liked the HFR version of The Hobbit btw:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57559560-221/poll-did-you-like-the-smoother-hfr-hobbit/
As i said before, i've used SVP all weekend on a variety of media and it is amazing. Once i had to watch something at normal speed after being adapted to HFR it really exposed the difference. LFR is a stuttering, blurry mess in comparison.
HFR is the future. James Cameron has already committed to it for his future projects. Most good quality HDTVs are released now with different implementations of Interpolation that people are getting used to using. SVP just brings that ability to the PC/HTPC. The same software also makes it possible to re-encode any movie you have made to 60fps ready for uploading or sharing, but improving the quality of them. Great for fast moving gameplay videos. The package also includes SVPTube, a nifty little app that lets you play back YouTube videos in real time with HFR applied to it. Pretty cool!
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Ah that's the second naruto refrence I had to read today. Well I'll give it a try.
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Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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I used to be so into anime that i got it
This program is free though right?
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I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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Not every time background is covered by content. I can clearly see difference on youtube app, top part of display is slightly lighter and greenish and bottom is darker and reddish.
I did nothing to the links. I just tried to add pictures (insert image) but it didn't work.
seems my note 9 does not have the issue u reported
see the pic u posted as screenshot from my note 9
No issue here.
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I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Thats why Im disappointed. Didnt expect this from Samsung.
Im going to try another piece so we will see.
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I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
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I am pretty sure they will agree to change it + the chances to draw again a problematic display are really slim. Sadly some do have such a problem and actually I saw a lot worse on the xda forums. Return it for exchange is my advice.
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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I think it has improved a lot since a couple of years. Before that, I used to swap my Samsung phones once or twice to get a decent one.
But the last 4 or 5 phones I bought, all with Samsung screens, were all perfect.
That includes Pixel 2 (not XL), Note 9, S8+, P20 Pro, etc....
Either I got extremely lucky to get as many perfect screens in a row, or they really improved things. Now I think it will happen to me again to have a bad one, but I'm not as nervous anymore. It's not a lottery anymore.
My Note 9 in particular is extremely impressive with a perfect screen. Perfect whites, no uniformity problem with any shades of grey at any brightness. Pure oled bliss.
BUT, I've had so many problems before that I'll ALWAYS be a little nervous before unboxing an oled screen smartphone. I've been burned too many times with crappy panels.
Let me tell you I was extremely nervous the day I bought my LG Oled 4K TV 55"..... Thousands of dollars thrown at an Oled panel lottery.... I was lucky this time again
Times are changing.
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...???
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...??
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You literally missed the most important part of my original post. That's why I stopped reading your post.
And yes I do know you have to have "Perfect" eyesight to join some military air forces.?
And I hope you aren't calling me closed minded. I never said someone has to have perfect eyesight to see the differences of the pixels in the image.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Quite pointless now.??
Someone point me towards a good measurement app (ruler) that works flawlessly on Oneplus10 pro, the one's google suggested aren't good enough
To measure what? Like a ruler? Or measure battery?
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To measure what? Like a ruler? Or measure battery?
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Ruler
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Ruler
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Oh it is a ruler.
Crikey, im really not sure buddy.
I think if it works well enough, then one of the AR rulers sounds amazing. If they work. I think it depends on how big the thing is you want to measure (not entirely sure where my trail of thought is heading at this point, I'll keep it clean)
For accuracy I'd say honestly any of the ruler apps.
For much larger things, cars etc, it has to be augmented reality, although I would fear the lack of a laser on the camera system would prohibit accurate defining of distance.
So personally from this knowledge I'd say any of the non AR apps.
Download a bunch and test them