Is Froyo oficially out? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all.
I got the Desire and expecting Froyo, but I was just wondering.. is Froyo oficially out for the N1?
I mean oficially, by google, for global usage.
If it is, how is flash 10.1 working? Is it much better/faster then the one we have on Android 2.1?
If Froyo is not oficially out, when is it expected, what are the rumors?
So many questions, so little time, ha?
Thanks.

ljesh said:
Hello all.
I got the Desire and expecting Froyo, but I was just wondering.. is Froyo oficially out for the N1?
I mean oficially, by google, for global usage.
If it is, how is flash 10.1 working? Is it much better/faster then the one we have on Android 2.1?
If Froyo is not oficially out, when is it expected, what are the rumors?
So many questions, so little time, ha?
Thanks.
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Froyo is not out officially, and the last official word from google was "we're working it, soon."
That said, Flash seems to be working well on the leaked version that we've been playing with.

Thank you very much for your answer.
Is the flash experience much/noticeably improved on Froyo compared with the Eclair?
I am talking about framerate to be more precise. For example, on Eclair flash videos on websites skip many frames, the experience is not smooth. Is that changed on Froyo?
Thanks again, I just got Desire because of the "coming soon full flash support" (was impossible to get N1 in my country) and that feature is very expected for me.

There are quite a few threads discussing the Flash functionality on Froyo. I don't have data access where I am so I can't confirm it's operation, but I think the general consensus is that it is much better than Flash Lite on Eclair.

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android 2.2???

i was just curious if the hero was getting the 2.2 update? doesnt look like much of a difference but im still curious
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
lol, let the 2.2 threads begin....
We barely got 2.1.
Im sure after the devs get froyo working, sprint will steal it, mod it slightly, leak it back out to the devs for them to tweak, and us to test, then sprint will release it officially about 6 months later, blaming htc for the hold up and it will still have tons of problems. Then the devs will figure out how to root it and sprint/htc will put out a update almost the next day to patch the root exploit.
Anyone else have a idea?
DevinXtreme said:
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
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So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement (har har har oh not funny). Yeah your right we'll probably never see an official release. Unlike tmobile who have said or rumored to say all their phones that can get it will.
thatguythatdid said:
So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement.
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Nope. I would, however, say it would be pretty Xtreme
I would love to see 2.2 on my Hero. Especially because that would mean I could go into Sprint and show them that my Hero is running faster than their EVO
thanks for the feedback guys. yeah i was watching videos of the nexus one running 2.2 and that thing was blazing fast!!!
i sent HTC a message last night asking if the hero was going to get the 2.2 release and this was there response...
(Hello Chris, Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support about your device. Before releasing a ROM update we have to be sure that the software is going to work properly on your hardware and on your carrier’s network. This testing does take some time but will result in an update that is optimized to work on your device and on your carrier’s network. While we want to release software as soon as we can we will only do so once the software has passed our quality standards. At this time we do not have any information about an update for your device. When the update is released it will be announced on HTC.com.)
So basically "We don't feel like it"
abcdfv said:
So basically "We don't feel like it"
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yeah basically who needs official anyways. we can do it ourselfs!! lolol
the 2.1s are still buggy... stock or not. i don't even want to think about 2.2 yet.
Only way to fix bugs is with updates.
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[Q] Why Official Froyo Being Called Back?!

Hi all,
As with the topic above, anyone knows the real reason with the call back of the official JPM firmware( or JP6)?
Read up on some sources, some said that its causes unstability. However, so far it seems okay to me in terms of stability and usabilty. Running on Darky's Steel Edition Rom 3.0. Seems good.
Cheers.
dplate07 said:
Hi all,
As with the topic above, anyone knows the real reason with the call back of the official JPM firmware( or JP6)?
Read up on some sources, some said that its causes unstability. However, so far it seems okay to me in terms of stability and usabilty. Running on Darky's Steel Edition Rom 3.0. Seems good.
Cheers.
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Just take a quick look at the changelist from JJ1 (SC02) and JPK, JPM / JP6 and compare these. All of these builds are from the same tree!
And did you ever take a look @ your logs (being on "stock" JPM / JP6)?
Yes, the customized ROMS are really really good. But all of 'em still have some (mostly minor) issues. I think Sammy has got to fix all (or most) of them before
they finally want to release it.
Btw, do you remember the first 2.2 releases from HTC
The only question is: Which way does less overall damage?
I think the final release will be almost identical as JPM/JP6 but Samsung has to patch the Kies so that it won't brick SGS so easily.
My Froyo 2.2 is unstable!!!
I for one really can't wait for the next "official" fix
My cold boot up times are way slower than the JG5 firmware and the phone suffers from forced closes sometimes and lags like hell!
It's just so annoying knowing what the phone is capable of but not having the firmware to back it up.
I hope the official froyo 2.2 release fixes all the bugs!
Well mine run better then ever on the official jp6. Granted root and lagfix is still needed becouse of the lovely rfs...
Sent from my imba sgs @ froyo 2.2 rooted / lagfixed
Here's hoping that the delay means that they will upgrade to 2.3 rather than 2.2 that will save you samsung.
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Is there any official news or informations what is happening with android update for sgs? Its not proffesional at all that we are stuck in progress darkenes thanks to ****sung. Hmm, i think im sorry that i didnt buy htc....
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immyh said:
Here's hoping that the delay means that they will upgrade to 2.3 rather than 2.2 that will save you samsung.
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That would be one of the few things hey could do to justify the wait. Unfortunately I hear someone knocking on the door, it's reality.
That guy always ruins my dreams...
LOL - Very well said!
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[Q] So, should I "upgrade" to Froyo or not?

Hello everyone...
I am still running an old version of JG5 along with mimocan's fix and despite a few lags here and there I am quite satisfied with the performance obtained.
So, having go past the "new" thing enthusiasm for froyo would you recommend to me an upgrading thereto? I have seen a number of reports about it being more laggy than Eclair and that its GPS performance has not improved that much..
Thanks in advance!
If you're happy with your phone, and don't see any feature/whatever on froyo that you really want, no reason to upgrade IMO.

[Q] Downgrade from Froyo to Eclair

Guys,
I'm using Froyo 2.2 on my G1 for 2 days, but seems a little problem there. Responses are a little bit slower than before (when used 1.6). The rotating home screen is a little bit slower to response.
1. What should I do except downgrade it to Eclair 2.1?
2. Is there any complete guide to do it?
Thank you very much for any suggestions
Try Sparksco's v1.5 Froyo Rom. Its extremely fast! Works great for me.
I'm curious too as i'm not too fond of the battery usage i'm getting from froyo at the moment.
ricowix said:
Guys,
I'm using Froyo 2.2 on my G1 for 2 days, but seems a little problem there. Responses are a little bit slower than before (when used 1.6). The rotating home screen is a little bit slower to response.
1. What should I do except downgrade it to Eclair 2.1?
2. Is there any complete guide to do it?
Thank you very much for any suggestions
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What Froyo rom did you try? Some are faster than others. 1.6 was specifically designed for the G1, it's unreasonable to expect any rom to run as fast as that. 2.2.1 is a Froyo update designed for the MyTouch, it's still a little slower than 1.6, but it's faster than the other Froyo's.
Bigt2003 said:
What Froyo rom did you try? Some are faster than others. 1.6 was specifically designed for the G1, it's unreasonable to expect any rom to run as fast as that. 2.2.1 is a Froyo update designed for the MyTouch, it's still a little slower than 1.6, but it's faster than the other Froyo's.
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Yeah, you can't expect newer versions of android to run as well on old hardware. The g1 wasn't designed for anything above donut. It can barely handle froyo, its almost too big for the g1. 1.6 is going to be way more responsive, but the issue there is that you are running old software, and in turn some apps won't work, among other downsides, such as not as much support. So its a choice, slightly less responsive but more features and more up to date software that all apps work on and is supported and such, or an out of date rom, not as supported, with less newer apps, but way more responsive and smooth.
Personally I got used to the less response in favor of auto updated market apps and newer gapps, etc.
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well...thanks to every comments here, but now...I can not open sms and market (they were normal). I havent done anything yet, suddently it just happend.
What should I do know? I'm very noob with this...sorry to bothering you guys
ricowix said:
well...thanks to every comments here, but now...I can not open sms and market (they were normal). I havent done anything yet, suddently it just happend.
What should I do know? I'm very noob with this...sorry to bothering you guys
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Are you running a cyanogenmod-6 based ROM? Something probably just got corrupted. I would back up your apps, do a nandroid backup, and reflash the ROM you're using. Titanium is an amazing tool for seamless backing up and restoring of user apps with their data and market links. If that doesn't work, post back, but I doubt that it won't work.
Its written on my G1...mod version: CyanogenMod-6.0.0-DS-RC1 , build number: FRF91
ricowix said:
Its written on my G1...mod version: CyanogenMod-6.0.0-DS-RC1 , build number: FRF91
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http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=dream_sapphire&type=stable
Download the top link, it's 6.1.0 stable. It's the latest cm6, flash it and see if it fixes your issue
You ARE on a release candidate, there's been two stable roms since, a stable ROM will probably fix it.
Bigt2003 said:
2.2.1 is a Froyo update designed for the MyTouch, it's still a little slower than 1.6, but it's faster than the other Froyo's.
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32B Magic and Dream use identical RAM and I believe the same CPU (slightly different variant AFAIK, but same ARM version and clock speed). Either way it makes no difference.
Also I accidentally gave you thanks because I'm used to having 'Quote' on the far left :-S
AdrianK said:
32B Magic and Dream use identical RAM and I believe the same CPU (slightly different variant AFAIK, but same ARM version and clock speed). Either way it makes no difference.
Also I accidentally gave you thanks because I'm used to having 'Quote' on the far left :-S
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I'm doing the same thing, it's annoying the crap outta me, especially because there isn't any "unthanks" button, you know? Putting it in a different place would've been nice

So is stock 2.1 + root still the best?

I haven't tried any of them yet, but it seems 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 have issues or are rough around the edges. It's understandable with honeycomb, but I thought by now there might have been a solid, stable 2.2 or 2.3.
Not complaining, but just thought something would be better than the stock 2.1 by this point. I was hoping for a speed increase with 2.2+ as there are some android git optimizations that 2.1 lacks, but yet I read that 2.1 for nc is still the most responsive.
Many people have reported much better bechmark scores with 2.2 and 2.3, and overall the feeling from those who run 2.2 or 2.3 is that they are more snappy than the stock 2.1. So far as being faster, the custom builds are probably generally better.
However, in terms of stability and compatibility it is my humble opinion that the stock 2.1 is still the winner. The CM7 build of 2.3 is getting pretty close, but still lacks some pretty important features. They will get there eventually...probably pretty soon....but I actually use my device quite heavily (at home and for work) and don't want to have to deal with 'minor' issues on a daily basis. I think that the Froyo build is going to fall out of favor - the CM7 build is better, more updated, and much more supported by the CM7 team with nightly builds. I am not sure about Honeycomb...haven't heard any real updates there in a while.
I am waiting for most of the wrinkles to get worked out for the CM7 version of 2.3. They do great work and if past performance is any indication once they get a solid and stable build it will be hard to beat. For now, my overclocked version of 2.1 does everything I want, is extremely stable, has very few software compatibility problems, and is certainly fast enough.
Thanks for the reply. You say the froyo build is probably going to fall out of favour over the cm7 build. Isn't the cm7 build based on froyo?
CM7 build is based on Gingerbread.
CM7 is based on 2.3 which is Gingerbread (Froyo is 2.2)
Confusingly, the upcoming 2.4 is also Gingerbread (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history)
EDIT: What he said! ^
As of this time, for day to day stable use, stock rooted. That's my opinion. Too many quirks and resets and "can't boot again" and other misc stuff that seems to randomly happen on the rest.
That'll change eventually, hopefully soonish, I would really love me some solid Froyo.
xdajunkman said:
I think that the Froyo build is going to fall out of favor - the CM7 build is better, more updated, and much more supported by the CM7 team with nightly builds.
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But right now the Froyo build is where its at. CM7 lacks working Youtube among other things. With the current Froyo build you get speed, working Youtube, and many working apps.
Stock rooted has no Flash correct? I think I'll be waiting until CM7 is finalized before I start rooting anything.
poofyhairguy said:
But right now the Froyo build is where its at. CM7 lacks working Youtube among other things. With the current Froyo build you get speed, working Youtube, and many working apps.
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I have plenty of speed on 2.1 overclocked at 1.1ghz, my YouTube works just fine (the app that is), and I have yet to find an app I want that doesn't work that would work on Froyo.
Yes...no Flash...but from what I have heard the Flash on Froyo is far from perfect...a bit choppy at best. Actually, no Flash is not quite correct...there is an older version of Flash that runs on 2.1 (Flash 9.something)...so you can veiw some older Flash content on the stock Eclair.
To each their own...
Can't fine that damn grail ANYWHERE
xdajunkman said:
Many people have reported much better bechmark scores with 2.2 and 2.3, and overall the feeling from those who run 2.2 or 2.3 is that they are more snappy than the stock 2.1.
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It amazes me that people say this. Not saying they are wrong, I just wonder what magic nooks they are using that I don't have.
I've tried two different cards (a class 4 and a class 10, which really is class 10 fast) on two different nooks (mine and my wife's) and almost a dozen different install attempts of 0.6.7. and 0.6.8 and they have all been less "snappy".
It took me quite awhile to even get decent wifi speeds, and I still don't know what I did differently to get it right on the last install (different cards, different nooks, different wifi routers, clear-market-caching and clear-framework-data-ing till I'm blue in the face didn't do it).
I get back on my rooted BN1.1 eclair and breath a sigh of relief at the improved responsiveness and usability. Does anyone know what the secret sauce is to get froyo to REALLY feel better?
That said, I'm more than happy with the 2.1 nook; it's a great tablet and loads of fun. The dev community is fantastic and I've had a ball with all of the experimentation. Keep it up!
xdajunkman said:
I have plenty of speed on 2.1 overclocked at 1.1ghz, my YouTube works just fine (the app that is), and I have yet to find an app I want that doesn't work that would work on Froyo.
Yes...no Flash...but from what I have heard the Flash on Froyo is far from perfect...a bit choppy at best. Actually, no Flash is not quite correct...there is an older version of Flash that runs on 2.1 (Flash 9.something)...so you can veiw some older Flash content on the stock Eclair.
To each their own...
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Can I ask whether a 10-min youtube playback is choppy in your nc? Cause mine is choppy sometimes...
I tried nookie froyo and it was really slow. Stock rom is much faster and reliable. I've heard honeycomb runs much better than froyo. I've seen videos and it looks good. The only think i can complain about stock rom is the lack of flash player
I've tried stock rooted, sdcard froyo, and emmc froyo, and I've run into minor issues/flaws with all of them, but the current emmc froyo (for me, at least) has the least amount of problems and the speed over slow eclair and my class 4 sdcard made it worth flashing. It's currently my daily driver.
If/when official CM7 comes out with, I'll probably give it a whirl, but I'm happy with my froyo build right now.
Maybe it'll bite me eventually... But i just put froyo 2.2 on my nook, and it runs so much better off the internal memory
wintwelve said:
Can I ask whether a 10-min youtube playback is choppy in your nc? Cause mine is choppy sometimes...
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I don't use YouTube much...but when I have used it I do not notice any problems. I am sure that it depends on the quality of the video, but I have played cartoon episodes that are several minutes long without any delays or playback problems.
swoozle said:
It amazes me that people say this. Not saying they are wrong, I just wonder what magic nooks they are using that I don't have.
I've tried two different cards (a class 4 and a class 10, which really is class 10 fast) on two different nooks (mine and my wife's) and almost a dozen different install attempts of 0.6.7. and 0.6.8 and they have all been less "snappy".
It took me quite awhile to even get decent wifi speeds, and I still don't know what I did differently to get it right on the last install (different cards, different nooks, different wifi routers, clear-market-caching and clear-framework-data-ing till I'm blue in the face didn't do it).
I get back on my rooted BN1.1 eclair and breath a sigh of relief at the improved responsiveness and usability. Does anyone know what the secret sauce is to get froyo to REALLY feel better?
That said, I'm more than happy with the 2.1 nook; it's a great tablet and loads of fun. The dev community is fantastic and I've had a ball with all of the experimentation. Keep it up!
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I agree on all accounts. I also have played with Froyo and Honeycomb on SD and have not personally seen the speed improvements others have reported. Perhaps it is better if installed to internal memory.
Definitely better installed to emmc. Been through Stock rooted, nookie 0.6.8, and HC. HC is sweet, softkeys and interface are great. but lack of key apps in the market is a bummer. nookie 0.6.8 ver 3 has been my everyday driver, no complaints over here.
I'm using cm7, nightly 7 and I like it better than stock. It does feel a bit snappier (but honestly I never had any issues with speed on rooted 2.1 so it could be in my head.) I know there's no DSP, but I don't plan on watching movies any time soon so that's fine for me. I like the UI alot...I like having built in copy/paste, I like having flash, and I like not having to worry about BN pushing out updates that could screw up my root. I'm only a few days into having used CM7, but as of now I'm really happy with my choice.
I've been running Honeycomb v4 2ed on a development Nook for awhile. I think it shows great potential! But the Nook I take with me is 1.1.0 with a 1.1ghz kernel. Fast, stable & very reliable.
I have to say. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Honeycomb AOSP drop! This thing is going to be Great.
I'm really enjoying stock 1.1 rooted. It has everything I could ask for in a value tablet and more. (Browsing, video, music, apps) The stability has been great...knock on wood. I was hell bent on buying an iPad before I purchased the nook color. I dont think I'll need an ipad, or anything else for that matter anymore.

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