Okay, I know its a tricky subject, however I try the question.
This is because I have read dozens x dozens pages on this forum about this subject, and I cant' figure out :
If I buy now a Galaxy S (that should be recent), do I have a change to get a GPS that is fine ?
Thanks for the answers (and sorry if I start another battle : mine is working, not mine, ...).
fredjm31 said:
Okay, I know its a tricky subject, however I try the question.
This is because I have read dozens x dozens pages on this forum about this subject, and I cant' figure out :
If I buy now a Galaxy S (that should be recent), do I have a change to get a GPS that is fine ?
Thanks for the answers (and sorry if I start another battle : mine is working, not mine, ...).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think anybody knows for sure and Samsung has recently been very quiet about GPS and GPS fixes. If GPS is a critical feature for you than I think it is fair to say you are better off buying another phone, maybe a Desire or Desire HD.
Most likely all Galaxy S will have crap GPS hardware.
No firmware can fix this.
An external GPS receiver will fix this for in-car use though.
The Desire HD has better specs regardless.
You must also remember the most vocal of those who supports the SGS GPS (DamianGTO) has some pretty crazy claims, but seems to get pretty defensive when asked to actually prove the quality of his GPS.
The GPS is merely average on this phone, but it could be far better, and even 4 year old Garmin fitness watches seem to produce more consistent results. The GPS sometimes looks accurate, and then goes skitzo suddenly. There are FAR safer phone choices available. My mum also recently got a Desire, and not sure about the GPS, but there are minor things which are more polished than the SGS's firmware
Mind boggling this GPS isn't it?
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER, bought the phone in July, GPS is very much perfect.
I'm using Navigon.
Satellite locks in under a minute.
PS: tested about 500km in a car, highways, normal roads.
I too don't see any problems with the GPS in the Galaxy S, think this story has blown way out of hand. GPS locks in 30 seconds and is for the most part fairly accurate when I use NDrive. Brutmod or whatever its called doesn't work for me at all and was very unreliable. However, both Co-Pilot, NDrive and Trapster work flawlessly.
My phone's battery shows 21. Sept and my GPS is flawed.
In my experience, the GPS works ok in open spaces. Driving on roads, highways, and outside the city the GPS performs OK.
The problem is when you try to use it into de city. Then it seems unable to keep lock on satellites while you're moving around streets sorrounded by buildings.
It also performs better some days than others for unknown reasons.
In my opinion. If GPS is important for you, buying any other phone will be a safer choice.
I'd advise one thing, ask if you can take it out for a "spin", walk / run / drive around for a while and record the track. You'll see if you have something descent.
Apparently, some are, some aren't. Mine isn't "acurate" by itself but it is flawless with trackerbooster (can be found in app).
Between the SGS and the Desire HD, the SGS has the better display and a waayyy better GPU. DHD has a better cam (as per specs, we should see pictures from both to be sure) and a camera flash (but SGS has night mode, wich is, in my opinion, way more wrorthy than a flash)
GPS is basically average.. its not without flaws.. far from it.. but it works ok in most cases. It's just not a super great GPS. I suppose the hardware is nice and could be made to work better (it might also be interferences due to the hardware placement/RFI/etc..) but that's not perfect yet and probably wont ever be
It's brilliant(!)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Andrew stop posting lies about me in every gps tread.
OP: i would say you can't get a better phone then sgs. But you can be unlucky and get a bad phone.
Its not only gps that can be broken, but this is how products works in mass production. There will always be products that's bad that slips through the checks. But there will also be products that's is much better then it should normal be.
Im lucky to have 2 of them.
But try the phone out when you buy it.
Try the gps and make sure you 3 button combo works.
If it look god buy it.
If it looks bad, ask to try an other phone. If they don't let you, just go to an other store.
I did have an iphone 4 to, but i did sell that. Still got the iphone 3gs left.
So i can compare with them to.
The sgs is better in all area accept apps, mostly games.
But the sgs need some care to make it very good.
Mostly its a lag issue on some of them. But that easy to fix.
But a have never regret that i buy it in the first place. Also my girlfriend did buy one after she used mine.
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 341MB Ram
DamianGto said:
OP: i would say you can't get a better phone then sgs. But you can be unlucky and get a bad phone.
Its not only gps that can be broken, but this is how products works in mass production. There will always be products that's bad that slips through the checks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Come on. Let's be serious about this matter.
The day you see as many people complaining about broken screens, broken batteries, broken 3G reception, or any other phone part, as you see complaining about a flawed GPS behavior, THEN you could assume that we are facing an ordinary problem, as ordinary as a faulty screen, or any other part of the hardware. But this is not the case.
I don't see loads of people claiming about every other part of the phone being broken, as I see complaining about the GPS. And more important, I don't see loads of people with other hardware problems complaining about they having exchanged the phone for a new one, or having sent it to repair, and having got back another phone with the same problem again and again. That only happens when we're talking about the GPS problem, so we can say with no doubt whatsoever that this GPS thing is way bigger than "normal mass production fault rate".
So, buying a Galaxy S with faulty GPS is not just a matter of being unlucky. Thanks to people like you who wrongly drove me to believe that the GPS problem wasn't such a big thing now I own a Galaxy S with a mostly useless GPS.
maesebit said:
Come on. Let's be serious about this matter.
The day you see as many people complaining about broken screens, broken batteries, broken 3G reception, or any other phone part, as you see complaining about a flawed GPS behavior, THEN you could assume that we are facing an ordinary problem, as ordinary as a faulty screen, or any other part of the hardware. But this is not the case.
I don't see loads of people claiming about every other part of the phone being broken, as I see complaining about the GPS. And more important, I don't see loads of people with other hardware problems complaining about they having exchanged the phone for a new one, or having sent it to repair, and having got back another phone with the same problem again and again. That only happens when we're talking about the GPS problem, so we can say with no doubt whatsoever that this GPS thing is way bigger than "normal mass production fault rate".
So, buying a Galaxy S with faulty GPS is not just a matter of being unlucky. Thanks to people like you who wrongly drove me to believe that the GPS problem wasn't such a big thing now I own a Galaxy S with a mostly useless GPS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Excellent post. The GPS is certainly Galaxy's Achilles foot and anybody buying a SGS should realize that there is a significant chance that GPS on their device will not work properly. How big (or small) that chance is is a matter of debate, but it is certainly much larger than being just a random production fault that is normal with any mass produced product.
Come on guys, lets not argue pointless-ly again about GPS issue.
Some have issue, some don't so, The answert has been stated: Test it before buying it.
Test for Time having a fix
Test it for accuracy (for at least 15 min.)
Then you'll see if it works fine or not.
Bought Mine in July (Vodafone Ireland 16GB). Never had problems with GPS.
Looks like the first batches was the best
Open sky in the car:
Fast fix < 10secs
Sat Fix > 8 sats (16 in view)
accuracy: very good < 10m
navigation: No issues until now > 800Kms use
DamianGto said:
But try the phone out when you buy it.
Try the gps and make sure you 3 button combo works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for the advice. But this brings two questions :
- how can I test quickly the GPS is (well) working ?
- what is this 3 button combo you are talking about ?
fredjm31 said:
Thank you for the advice. But this brings two questions :
- how can I test quickly the GPS is (well) working ?
- what is this 3 button combo you are talking about ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The three button combo is the way to get the phone into "download" mode so that you can flash new ROMs on it. To test it, shut down the phone, and then power up the phone while holding down volume down, home and power keys. You should see a "yellow man" and a "Downloading" text - if that appears, the phone can enter the download mode.
The GPS can only properly be tested by actually driving (or running) somewhere and seeing if Google Navigation is able to keep GPS lock and track your movement correctly. Just testing in shop whether the phone can get GPS lock is not enough.
Just try to get a fix inside the shop, phones good GPSes can (like the HTC Desire), Those with bad can't. (like mine, 3 weeks old)
Got mine in october, battery is 1.9.2010 dated, and I drive with GPS without any issue using Navigon and stock JM7
I'd say: buy from a shop with a 100% satisfied or money back logo. Then test GPS, if it's bad, return the phone. I personally think newer batches should be the most trouble free. However, there are surely still many old batches around even if you buy it today, you could get one of them...
I'm happy with SGS, won't get the desire (screen too ugly compared) and the HD is too big for my taste. But I got a good batch phone
t1mman said:
Come on guys, lets not argue pointless-ly again about GPS issue.
Some have issue, some don't so, The answert has been stated: Test it before buying it.
Test for Time having a fix
Test it for accuracy (for at least 15 min.)
Then you'll see if it works fine or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, it isn't really that easy, unless you know someone who owns one
It isn't something you can test accurately in store. Either way, my advice is still that it's better to be safe than sorry. Even if the issue is hardware related, there is no way of knowing if the unit you buy works, the software on the Desire was heaps better for me (and so the Desire HD is probably even better).
Related
Ok, here we are.
I bought the HTC Diamond one week ago.
The first unit i had, had some issues with the screen : the right corner of the screen was a bit high compared with the left corner.
Here is a a picture of the problem :
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Since this is not the only problem i was having with it, the lcd screen also appeared to have some problems, text wasn't very clear/cut at all and was in fact pretty blurry.
The problem could be temporary solved by turning off the screen, and turning it on again.
NOT OK
OK
NOT OK
http://www.hostingpics.net/pics/793204texte_net.jpg OK
Finally, i came back to the shop where i bought it, get another unit and.... i'm currently experiencing the same problems.
1/ Inaccurate position of the screen with the button and the whole unit
2/ Blurry screen
I contacted the French Customer Service one week ago, didn't had an answer from them. They don't seem to give a damn ****
SO, for those who are currently thinking of buying an HTC Diamond, be aware of these problems.
If you can wait, then do it. It may be the smarter choice to do, in waiting of HTC to solve these youthful mistakes.
Im on my third, the first wouldnt power up, the second one wifi wouldn't turn on, and the third still has issues with the actual construction just like yours, but not nearly as bad. All three however, had slight imperfections in the build. Finally, none of them have been accepted as an HTC product when registering.
If I were deciding on buying a new phone, it would still be the diamond, but never will I buy another phone until it is officially released in the UK. These grey markets are probably the first batches that still go through redesign and testing thus have the imperfections. The phone having issues isnt a retailer issue, but a manufacturing issue. Such a nice piece of tech (I have bought EVERY mid to luxury phone since the Nokia 8800, and yes I have an issue with spending $$$), but I always but them the day they drop. The same old story, pulling my hair until the official is released, and then all the fixes and mods come out for my grey market phone to work 90% properly. FED UP, really. This is the last one I buy when they come out, my main concern is I am in the US, and some phones make it to the US market and then my phone is no longer unique.
Conclusion, in my vast experience of mobile tech, never have I been this irritated with a poor release. Like I said, such an impressive phone..........in theory.
If HTC ever wants to contact me to make up for this debauchery and release this sense of being bamboozled, PM me, I'll have my people call your people.
I bought two Diamonds. Found these issues:
1. one of the LCD Screen is more yellow when compared with the others
2. power on/off button is not senstive on the right side (too low, and no click feel; its right side is ok.)
3. mic becomes mute during calls (happended twice), I had to soft reset it.
4. screen doesn't turn on sometimes (the button light is on, just not the screen). Press the power button on and off to turn on the screen.
Called HTC tech support, they told me to get a replacement from vendor. And the Vendor told me to wait for the 2nd batch to arrive in 1-2 weeks.
Overall, Diamond has very good design and form factor, but poor quality control.
I'm lucky...
No any issues about build quality.. Especially screen is the magnificent..
no issues with mine
mines from the 2nd batch my wholesaler told me that the 1st batch of every phone are not perfect
hopefully the product come with a two year warranty...
I had a build quality issue that a bit diferent than the dispaly. But it adds to the general poor build quality of the Diamond
Here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405088&highlight=reset+button
C'mon zmob123, quit whinging! If you go to the grey market you get grey (dodgy) products. If you live in the UK, WAIT until it is released in the UK officially! If you live in the US wait until it is released there! If you are desperate go for the grey market - sometimes you are in the luck, sometimes you are in the s**t. Now, if any of you are so desperate that you spend around £430 for the very first version of ANY mobile phone, you should go and see a shrink because you are in serious trouble. I am still waiting for my MDA Compact IV and even though I really, really what it ASAP I will stay put and wait. No risky grey market for me. That way I'll not have to be disapointed.
aiwama
ive always owned a grey market import, never had any issues.
maybe as i wait 2-3 weeks so all the people who want to have the 1st from the factory can have it with issues.
and i get the 2nd batch.
when the n95 came out there was similar issues, it was mostly for the 1st batch of phones, all others had no issues.
my advice, is you want a grey market phone get one. BUT wait 1-3 weeks before you buy for the dust to settle on build quality issues, or contact the supplier to see if they are selling the 2nd batch....
aiwama said:
C'mon zmob123, quit whinging! If you go to the grey market you get grey (dodgy) products. If you live in the UK, WAIT until it is released in the UK officially! If you live in the US wait until it is released there! If you are desperate go for the grey market - sometimes you are in the luck, sometimes you are in the s**t. Now, if any of you are so desperate that you spend around £430 for the very first version of ANY mobile phone, you should go and see a shrink because you are in serious trouble. I am still waiting for my MDA Compact IV and even though I really, really what it ASAP I will stay put and wait. No risky grey market for me. That way I'll not have to be disapointed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hear you man, I live in the US, but not whining. I like to get it when it comes out, just like everyone else on here I love tech a gadgets, but I have to agree with you, just avoid the risk and leave the worries behind. Only problem is I get this "itch" as soon as its released. Besides, the guy who started the thread started the *****ing, just thought I'd throw in my two pennies. Please, don't get me wrong, the phone is fantastic, just needs some finishing touches. To be honest, never had major issues until the diamond, but I think to root of the evil is the TouchFlo3D. The cosmetics is just a bad job on HTC's part. Oh, and the shrink, I'll phone in the morning,
zmob123 said:
I hear you man, I live in the US, but not whining. I like to get it when it comes out, just like everyone else on here I love tech a gadgets, but I have to agree with you, just avoid the risk and leave the worries behind. Only problem is I get this "itch" as soon as its released. Besides, the guy who started the thread started the *****ing, just thought I'd throw in my two pennies. Please, don't get me wrong, the phone is fantastic, just needs some finishing touches. To be honest, never had major issues until the diamond, but I think to root of the evil is the TouchFlo3D. The cosmetics is just a bad job on HTC's part. Oh, and the shrink, I'll phone in the morning,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not "*****ing", boy, therefore please watch your word.
I am writing here the problems i am encountering with this phone (not a black market one, an official one i get to a high price in a big brand french shop) since it is the second unit i'm getting and still having the same problems.
These problems are not software related, they can't be resolved with an update, a program, or with gold help.
Since we have no way to know if HTC is aware of these problems and going to solve them, and since i don't think i'm wrong by saying that some of their staff is walking on this forum (do you remember HTC Kaiser drivers issue?), i don't think it was a such bad idea to post this.
Everything is not black with this phone, but at this level of price you are expecting something better than these speakers, screens, and builds problems.
So, if other peoples are having the same problems, don't hesitate to give your feedback.
All in all..
Ladies and Gentleman, i'm afraid i have to leave you for some hours.....
I wana buy this phone but ppl say it has gps problems and laggy but what exactly is wrong with gps? And is the phone fast? Does captivate has these problems ? Do u need app to SD for this phone or everything goes on internal memory ? Please help me pick and y did u guys bought galaxy s for ? Please share
Bought it over the Desire on reviews, looks and GPU.
After seeing how laggy the Desire is first hand and how horrible it looks, I don't regret my choice one bit. The Galaxy S is an incredible phone.
the_ahmadzais said:
I wana buy this phone but ppl say it has gps problems and laggy but what exactly is wrong with gps? And is the phone fast? Does captivate has these problems ? Do u need app to SD for this phone or everything goes on internal memory ? Please help me pick and y did u guys bought galaxy s for ? Please share
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Used to have an HTC Magic (heavily modified) and I needed something else since ROGERS wasn't being good to me and HTC was trying to lock out the SPL. I switched to Bell because of their deals and got the Galaxy S because of it's interface, open recovery, style, and feel.
GPS: It's perfectly fine for me, never had a problem and it tracks perfectly. People seem to have problems but I don't see them with mine.
Laggy: Feels perfectly smooth, I came from an HTC Magic and going to a Galaxy S is night and day; it feels great for me. Some people are just hopping onto the band wagon saying it's laggy and forcing themselves to believe that, others though legitimately have lag, although I am not one.
SD: Everything goes into the internal memory; no A2SD yet until Froyo (official) comes out everywhere then it might have it, but as of now, no A2SD.
Usually people posts on forums because of problems, or just because they want to play with their phone,
Well, if you observe the first page of xda, there are 100people viewing NOne forums, 120 HTC Desire, and...
500 or more on Galaxy S,
don`t know if this means problems or popularity, just a tip..
sonci said:
Usually people posts on forums because of problems, or just because they want to play with their phone,
Well, if you observe the first page of xda, there are 100people viewing NOne forums, 120 HTC Desire, and...
500 or more on Galaxy S,
don`t know if this means problems or popularity, just a tip..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to remember that Galaxy S is on A LOT of providers meaning we have people of all kinds on the Galaxy S forum compared to NOne where you had to buy full price from Google themselves or Desire where it's only on one/few providers.
I got the Galaxy S for it's specs. I live in Canada so phones like the Evo and Droid X were out of range for me because of CDMA. Galaxy S, with it's nice screen, good processor, and GPU seemed like a natural choice for me for my first smartphone (especially since I play games and watch movies on my phone alot.
Although there are problems with the GPS, I've found it to be usable and secondary GPS programs like CoPilot seem to make the problem a little softer. In terms of some lag, there are multiple lag fixes that can be applied.
Only thing I don't like with the phone is the looks. Everyone who sees it thinks I have an Iphone
All in all a good phone with a lot of potential if you're willing to put the time into it (which was actually sort of fun for me) and don't mind the looks.
It depends what you want it for. The screen for me is by far the main selling point, but as an all round device I honestly couldn't recommend it to anyone. Sounds harsh, but I've just sold mine and got an n1, and the n1 runs rings round it I'm afraid.
The sgs simply has too many niggly bugs which waters down the ownership experience.
I bought my Galaxy S because it seemed like the best phone on the market, even with the issues you can read on the internet, including these forums.
It came with JM2 firmware and I have to say that it worked surprisingly well after reading all that stuff about lag: I barely experienced any lag at all and there weren't many bugs. The biggest complaints I had were about KIES and faults with Android in general. Of course, it would have been nice to have a phone with less crapware (Aldiko eBook? Layar?) installed on stock firmware.
In overall, JM2 was a pleasant version to be on - the biggest lag I experienced was when rebooting the phone (and that was annoying - it took minutes to get it functional)!
However, that didn't excuse Samsung's delays on Froyo. Now that it's here, I installed it right away - and I can't say that I was very pleased at first.
As my phone booted to the new version, everything was intact except my homescreen. I can deal with that - but after I played around more it seemed very laggy in general. The new zoomout feature in the app drawer ran at a maximum of 10 frames per second. The Market was missing.
This is obviously inexcusable for an update that is supposed to fix issues and is touted as "improving performance" in a Samsung press release. Especially the issue of Android Market just missing - how is the average customer going to figure out how to get it back?
I simply caved in and did a factory reset after backing up some stuff. I'm glad to say that this restored my phone to how it was on JM2 - very responsive in general. I used AppBrain to tap through tens of install dialogs to get all my apps back, and now it's just like before.
In overall I can recommend the phone, but Samsung can (and needs to) do better. On the hardware side, three things: the plastic back cover creaks too much (but I use a silicon case, so that's not an issue for me). A camera flash would be nice, and a dedicated button for it would make shooting pictures easier too.
The lag issue seems to be more of an problem with Samsung's marketing department than with their engineers - it wouldn't look good to ditch their own filesystem. But then again, in my personal experience I believe that complaints about it are greatly exaggerated.
I'm from canada, still running original rom (2.1 JH2)
got it for the quality of the pictures; Night mode is amazing, the pictures I've taken with it shows more than my own eyes!! I was sceptical at first because of the lack of flash light, but francly, a flash can only light a certain part... Night mode shows it all!!
also 3D processor is wayyyy more than anything else out there. you can do anything graphic on this baby! Videos are fluent, using gallery, taking pictures, gaming, etc!
Only down part I can see is the GPS (at first) is kind of all over the place. Not realy helpfull when you're using the device to keep track of run (workout and such), but after fidling with the settings, it's pretty descent!
bonus was the amazing Super Oled...this thing is bright and precise! Also, the device is pretty thin (the thinnest around?), since the display and the touch sensor are all integrated.
And you can see more "activity" in the SGS section for the main reason that they sold 5 millions of those babyes, surely you'll get more activity than most (not selling as much). And, on android, more users means more devloppers!
t1mman said:
Night mode is amazing, the pictures I've taken with it shows more than my own eyes!! I was sceptical at first because of the lack of flash light, but francly, a flash can only light a certain part... Night mode shows it all!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i couldn't agree more
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
that is the feature i like the most about the phone
I do have 2 now.
The bad part of sgs is that there are phones that are bad.
They are like small computers and do sometimes not what they should.
The good part is that you get the best hardware any phone has.
I do own iphone to. But sgs bet them on all area accept for apps.
Sgs has a fantastic screen.
Its nice to handel.
If you like to tweak and take time to learn about the phone. You can't get any better phone.
If you read here you will se people has problem but there almost always a solution in them.
I would never trade my sgs away. It the best smartphone on the market.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I would wait and see if froyo fixes the lag. If update don't fix the lag don't buy. If you still want it I will sell you mine.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
mammenj said:
I would wait and see if froyo fixes the lag. If update don't fix the lag don't buy. If you still want it I will sell you mine.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have jpm and no lag.
There is also many fix for lag.
One sgs of mine i have oclf. Nice and lagfree.
On the other i have a alfa system with ext2 Filesystem that works very good.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
DamianGto said:
I have jpm and no lag.
There is also many fix for lag.
One sgs of mine i have oclf. Nice and lagfree.
On the other i have a alfa system with ext2 Filesystem that works very good.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For non techies, applying hacks are not an option.
If you don't mind hacking your phone, then its a good phone.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I bought it mainly due to it's specs. and I'm curious about the Android platform(never owned one). and after sitting through hours of unbiased comparisons on the top market phones then, and most importantly, Google's Froyo keynote ;p
that's a lot of ands.
mammenj said:
For non techies, applying hacks are not an option.
If you don't mind hacking your phone, then its a good phone.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most is easy like installing an app.
So yout don't need to be a techies.
But if you can flash and stuff you will have a great time and a very good phone.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
For me the SGS is disappointing.
My main reason to buy this phone was the hardware.
It realy has great specs and outperforms any other phone.
But when it comes to daily use it's not as reliable.
I read that GPS wasn't that good but nevertheless decided to buy this phone.
I had hope that it can be fixed. But for me, the GPS is completely unreliable.
In car it takes ages till I get a lock. And during the drive it's most of the time ~10m behind me.
And when I am not constantly on the route that it suggests me, it losts the lock and need to find me again, which takes ages.
I can't use any function that relays on GPS.
The last days I have more problems than ever. Even standing on the street it doesn't get any lock.
Thinking to buy me a "slower" but more reliable smartphone, like the HTC Desire.
It has some goddamn software issues. ( lag, gps. )
But it's probably the only affordable device that has a WORKING multitouch controller, and it also has the most powerful GPU, and a CPU that matches the best. ( It's actually slightly better, but JIT isn't optimised for Hummingbird )
So it's some bloody good hardware that goes with some not to good software to make an alright phone.
With a fair bit of tinkering/rooting/etc the phone is easily the best at the moment.
Update on my case:
I got my replacement unit yesterday and the screen is great. However now I have a slightly bent border and the infamous clicking sound issue on the left side...
I contacted GameStop again and requested a replacement when their 2nd wave comes, which is early next week so I'll see if I can be lucky this time. GameStop cs has been great so far.
Also Asus saw this post and contacted me for details. It seems they are aware and are doing researches on these defects.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Anyone having their nexus 7 with screen burn in and washed out colors with super obvious backlight bleeding?
I got mine yesterday and everything was great but this issue all of a sudden appeared when i turned it on after i woke up today.
Gamestop will try to do a special replacement order for me.
Edit: added some shots to show how uneven the backlight is and also the burn in issues. There was no flash used to take the shots.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Yes!! I was just googling like crazy to find people that have the same issues. Its like one of those old screens where the backllight is illuminating the side of the screen. It is very strange and unpleasant.
Add some photos in op
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
jjjsong said:
Add some photos in op
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not only is it burnt in and pale, but its also upside down
lol my bad.
But it demonstrates the issues regardless.
the photos don't really show how washed out it looks. It's like having a semi transparent layer on top of the screen.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
It will be interesting to see if those who ordered from the Play Store have the same issues. Maybe they were in different batches
jjjsong said:
lol my bad.
But it demonstrates the issues regardless.
the photos don't really show how washed out it looks. It's like having a semi transparent layer on top of the screen.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes its really hard to capture with a camera but its definitely there. I found kicking up the brightness helps. The issue i was referring to might be intended so its easier to read in the dark.
Go look at threads from the G2x forum about screen bleed. Ridiculous amount of bickering over the same thing. If you don't like the product you got, exchange or return it. Not trying to stick it to the OP or anything, thanks for photos, just trying to kill this at the source before the N7 gets tainted with bad publicity because people didn't want to exchange. G2x's resale value plummeted because of issues like this being blown out of proportion, so it's in your best interest to bring the issue to light, let everyone know of any possible issues, then leave it up here for consideration if others have the same issue. Not make a 300 page thread about it comparing the extent of which you have the issues. It ended up as people taking countless photos and comparing them like a contest or something. I'm very sorry for anyone with this issue and i do hope you get it sorted out. For all I know mine will have the same issues.
Not trying to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to prevent the mass hysteria caused by this on the G2x.
From the arstechnica review:
A few days after the Nexus 7 hit developers' hands, a number of outlets reported that the tablet has problems with ghosting. Bringing up an image and letting it set on the screen for a couple of minutes would leave an impression of the image on the screen for up to a few minutes after the user has navigated away. We were able to recreate the problem, and found high-contrast images were particularly susceptible to imprinting ghosts on the screen.
However, the more we tried to recreate it, the faster the effect seemed to fade after we navigated away from the ghosted image. Eventually it was fading in a matter of seconds. The problem seems to be related to whether the screen is warmed up or not—if the tablet hasn't been recently used, an idle image will remain ghosted on the display for at least a couple of minutes, even as users continually change what the screen is showing. But once it's been on for a while—even if the image is left up for up to ten minutes—the ghost fades in a couple of seconds. There definitely is a problem, but it doesn't strike us as serious. That's as long as it doesn't, for instance, get worse as the tablet gets older.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's your brightness set on. Too high will make it worse sometimes. Will also kill battery and overall screen life ( just like TVs) I say this because you also mentioned "washed out" look. This tends to happen when brightness is too high. (People do this on TVs too). High brightness is to help outdoor viewing, will actually make picture worse but people think it "pops" more. IF, this is the case try turning it down some You'll get use to it after a while. Mine at like 20% and I rarely have problems seeing screen. I do home theaters so take the advice knowing I'm not just spouting BS.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
The one I picked up from Gamestop today hasn't exhibited this at all and thankfully no dead pixels either, I'd be pretty pissed honestly if it looked like that
dorkdotcom74 said:
What's your brightness set on. Too high will make it worse sometimes. Will also kill battery and overall screen life ( just like TVs) I say this because you also mentioned "washed out" look. This tends to happen when brightness is too high. (People do this on TVs too). High brightness is to help outdoor viewing, will actually make picture worse but people think it "pops" more. IF, this is the case try turning it down some You'll get use to it after a while. Mine at like 20% and I rarely have problems seeing screen. I do home theaters so take the advice knowing I'm not just spouting BS.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I already played around with brightness, it's all like that from the lowest to the highest brightness settings. It's super washed out with lights all bleeding from the sides and also areas in the middle. It's like the LCD panel can't block the lights out anymore.
Note that it was perfectly normal the day i got it. It only started happening today. So I know how it should look like...
Take it back. I have no light bleed at all. I think you got a lemon I would not accept light bleed in 4 corners, the center, burn in and washed out colors. I have none of your issues so take my advice and exchange it or if they have no more inventory return it and pick one up from another store
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda app-developers app
Theres always a lemon for a device. Sorry that you got a poop one. Your replacement should be flawless?
r4d14n7 said:
Go look at threads from the G2x forum about screen bleed. Ridiculous amount of bickering over the same thing. If you don't like the product you got, exchange or return it. Not trying to stick it to the OP or anything, thanks for photos, just trying to kill this at the source before the N7 gets tainted with bad publicity because people didn't want to exchange. G2x's resale value plummeted because of issues like this being blown out of proportion, so it's in your best interest to bring the issue to light, let everyone know of any possible issues, then leave it up here for consideration if others have the same issue. Not make a 300 page thread about it comparing the extent of which you have the issues. It ended up as people taking countless photos and comparing them like a contest or something. I'm very sorry for anyone with this issue and i do hope you get it sorted out. For all I know mine will have the same issues.
Not trying to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to prevent the mass hysteria caused by this on the G2x.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, you must work for Google or something.
So what if a user gets angry at a corporation that doesn't give a [email protected]#% amount of care of a little something called quality control. It's the 21st century and there are means by which end-users should be alerted of what they may eventually buy. The Galaxy Nexus screen issues were never mentioned anywhere but here, on xda. Even Samsung denied the issue and dubbed them as being "non-existent", so they thought they'd just swap out used phones, and now you have pissed off users who made 3-4-5 swaps already and their issues are still there.
Remember the iphone 4 reception issues and apple's reaction to them? And don't even let me even mention the ridiculous amount of epic memes that derived from it.
My point is that to prevent these things from happening, end users should get mad and spread the issues as wide as one can, so that eventually it reaches the upper levels of the company, so they can start doing something about it.
A positive example is Sony with their flagship Xperia S and it's screen issues. They admitted their fault and triggered an utter logistical nightmare to exchange or replace any faulty screen, although even they tried to "limit" it to one faulty batch.
So yes, blow these tiles of things out of proportion, because this is not a minor issue!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
r4d14n7 said:
Go look at threads from the G2x forum about screen bleed. Ridiculous amount of bickering over the same thing. If you don't like the product you got, exchange or return it. Not trying to stick it to the OP or anything, thanks for photos, just trying to kill this at the source before the N7 gets tainted with bad publicity because people didn't want to exchange. G2x's resale value plummeted because of issues like this being blown out of proportion, so it's in your best interest to bring the issue to light, let everyone know of any possible issues, then leave it up here for consideration if others have the same issue. Not make a 300 page thread about it comparing the extent of which you have the issues. It ended up as people taking countless photos and comparing them like a contest or something. I'm very sorry for anyone with this issue and i do hope you get it sorted out. For all I know mine will have the same issues.
Not trying to sweep anything under the rug, just trying to prevent the mass hysteria caused by this on the G2x.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol.
if there is a common problem, everyone should know about this. samsung is still manufacturing ****ty hardware albeit this 300 page threads. look at the sgs3 section and see faulty screen posts. they are treating end users like beta testers.
I was using mine all day yesterday and didn't notice that the screen was a little washed out till today, seems to have went away tho (or less noticeable now). I also have minor screen bleeds but from what I've read this is common with IPS displays.
Yeah, right, I work for Google... Good detective work there.
Obviously you didn't read or understand my post.
What I'm saying is just because there are some defective units out there, doesn't mean you need to start writing hate mail to Google, Asus, and Obama. Every product has defective units, even with QA checks. I'm just hoping the N7 users will get warranty replacements instead of just whining and complaining for 6 months when they could have just called a freaking phone number and taken care of it.
And if the company is willing to replace the product, why would you blow it out of proportion? Companies can easily find excuses not to replace your product. THAT is when you need to blow issues out of proportion.
murrun said:
lol.
if there is a common problem, everyone should know about this. samsung is still manufacturing ****ty hardware albeit this 300 page threads. look at the sgs3 section and see faulty screen posts. they are treating end users like beta testers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every device has defective screens it seems like. Honestly, it might just be cheaper for them to piss off the 2% of users who actually read stuff here than change the manufacturing process. It sucks. It really does. It forces us who are actually bothered by it to exchange til we get a good one. Which can take a few tries sometimes. It's a bummer but that's what our profit-driven society has come to.
Mostly first batches have problems, not all off them are working properly. I don't see why everyone complaining, just get it exchanged, it is £200 or $200 tablet, they aren't gonna put a super expensive display on. The IPS is already good enough for its price, heck the Kindle Fire display is terrible compared to this and I hardly see they complain.
IPS Screen burn are only temporarily compared to Amoled, use 'Dead Pixel Test' in the market to get rid of it. The app flashes different colour screens and it'll eventually go away faster. Trust me, I've had this problem before but never complained. *cough*
As an owner of several android devices I've been thinking of getting a Nexus 7 tablet as a replacement for my Garmin GPS unit. The GPS unit I have today cost me $400 when I bought it and when I look at the platform it's a slow processor, 4gb of on-board storage, god awful voice control and 4 hours of use without the power. It led me to think about ditching it and using the Nexus 7 solely as my GPS but I think it would take some work to make it operate as a traditional GPS and it would need some thought around these areas;
Interface or Launcher - I'm thinking something similar to HTC Car or a full launcher replacement to lead right into a GPS app.
Mapping Program - There are several programs out there like NavFree and CoPilot but I still hope that Garmin Street-pilot comes to Android
Power Management - As your car starts the tablet to start and fire up the mapping app/Car Launcher without a ton of notifications and stuff (suppressed maybe?) and as your car powers off the tablet needs to shut itself down after let's say 5 minutes of no active power.
Traffic Updates - I'm not too sure how this can be done without a subscription in an app like CoPilot
Voice Command - I'm hoping Google Now! with a mapping app as the default it should be like 1000x more accurate at voice recognition. I think it needs a way to have a voice control daemon listening for a magic phrase to accept a command.
Enhanced POIs - it would be awesome if Poi could launch the native app associated with if need be.
these are just some of my random thoughts I was wondering what you guys thought? I think it could be done relatively simply and it'd be something i'd be willing to pay for to improve my GPS experience than the limited tech included in today's GPS navigation devices.
For the launcher idea, you could just spam a whole ton of maps icons all over the home screen. Then place some nfc stickers all over your car so you could activate wifi hotspot from your phone and activate wifi from your tablet to pair the 2 devices to use google maps.
I typed all that with google voice typing. Oh my goodness this is amazing.
Edit: By spam I mean placing a poopton of 2x2 squares of Maps, Navigation, Places, My Tracks, so that if you miss a tap with your finger, you won't dangerously scramble to resolve the issue and impair your driving.
Sent from my Nexus 7 on the XDA app. GO CANADA GO
Be aware that a lot of what you are asking for relies on internet connectivity with an Android device. Might need to tether for best results!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Garmin bought out Navigon which I hope means that application will improve. Currently it's a steaming pile of poo though and can't touch the ease of use of Google Maps. The shear act of trying to search for an address in these GPS applications (particularly Navigon) when one has been used to the simplicity of Google Maps is enough to make one want to throw the device against a wall. I say keep your Garmin and supplement it with Google Maps.
There's something to be said for the simplicity of having integrated google services, like planning a road trip on your desktop in Google Maps and having all of your favorites right there on your android device along with other useful information like websites and reviews. As others have stated though, you will need internet access.
Ive been testing it out a little bit. Obviously the stock google offerings are no good if you are trying to do this without a data connection.It looks like navFree is the best option i have used so far, nice interface and maps, accurate and good voice guidance. The only thing i dont like about this app is there is literally no way to cancel guidance mid trip, unless you just add a new destination. I like the co-pilot app too but once i used it in the car it become apparent there is no voice guidance, at least for the free version.
Won't work with polarized sunglasses in landscape, though.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
cmunic8r99 said:
Won't work with polarized sunglasses in landscape, though.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
Andrew025 said:
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's a thread about it around here somewhere, something about the way the screen is made. If you search for polarized sunglasses I think you'll find it.
I pretty much bought it just for this. Although after using it for a little bit i am liking it more than my tf300.
I used it for a few trips with it tethered in car with google navigation and waze and it works well. The audio is piped through aux port and sounds good enough. However the mount i got from ebay is terrible... It shakes really bad, so hoping i can find a better mount.
And finally still looking for a car charger.
Also using go launcher so i can mount it landscape.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2
Andrew025 said:
That's how I have my Gnex mounted in my car and I can see it just fine with my polarized glasses.
Is the AMOLED different?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My SGS2 works in both, but it blacks out if you turn it 45 degrees clockwise (or 270 CCW) . iPad has the same problem, but in portrait mode.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Check this out - http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/upvy9/android_car_project/
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
sparky222b said:
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1 - Yes. It has a real GPS chip. User reports suggest it's very reliable, but I cannot comment as I don't own a N7 yet.
2 - I've seen some huge GPS units, but never a tablet mount. That said, check this link out.
3 - GMaps in offline mode can only cache select areas that you specify. When I go down south in a few weeks, I don't anticipate using Google Maps since their offline feature is (without being too mean) a joke. I'll probably be using NavFree or some other full featured offline GPS apps that I've read about on these forums. I love Google Navigation, but c'mon - how long have we been requesting offline maps? If other apps can take care of it, I'll easily switch to them to take care of the job.
Navfree, navigon and sygic work offline
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk 2
Eagle1337 said:
Navfree, navigon and sygic work offline
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you by chance comment a little further on these apps if you have experience with them? I'm curious how big they are when fully downloaded. Likewise I'm curious if I can download offline sections of the United States, but not the entire thing. For example, I don't want to have the entire globe downloaded if I'm only going to be traveling up and down the east coast, etc.
react9 said:
. . . And finally still looking for a car charger. . .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://store.griffintechnology.com/ipad/ipad-3/powerjolt-dual - dual outlets with full 10 watts of power for iPad or other tablets.
GPS seems pretty accurate. Took this sitting on my covered, south-facing front porch with WiFi turned off. This is after about fifteen seconds of measuring.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Co-pilot fan
I have been using co-pilot for quite some time. It works flawless on my a500 tablet. And on my Huawei cell phone. It keeps maps up to date . There live traffic does cost a bit and you would need to tether to your phone to get the Right now accuracy. I do not think you need to reconfigure the tablet in any way. If you want CO - PILOT ONLY Edit the boot init script to boot co- pilot on start. FREEZE ALL OTHER APPS OR remove them (root needed for those two things ) .
I have tried many gps apps CO -PILOT IS by far the best and most accurate. GOOGLE MAPS will have you going wrong way on one way street . or showing you driving thru a field where there is now Roads. .
good luck
sparky222b said:
Actually, I had the same thought. Forgive the possibly stupid questions but.
1. First of all does the Nex7 even have a GPS chip? If so has anyone tested it for navigation to see how reliable it is?
2. Has anyone seen a car dock that will fit a 7" monster like this?
3. How reliable is GMaps offline? I have an EVO LTE but have not saved any map data offline - I wonder if I were to save my whole metropolitan area on an N7 if GMaps would be feasible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have used a piece of Velcro to mount my Garmin, but don't know if Velcro will stick to the Nexus.
cmunic8r99 said:
GPS seems pretty accurate. Took this sitting on my covered, south-facing front porch with WiFi turned off. This is after about fifteen seconds of measuring.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Was going to ask what app you were using to get this data but I found it myself, just wanted to post the link in case anyone else wanted to know:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest
Going to give this a go on my N7 right now!
EDIT: I gave it a go and I can say that the GPS on N7 picks up satellites a heck of a lot better than my cell phone (Optimus 2X) and my actual dedicated Garmin GPS. I'm getting a connection to 10 satellites while *indoors* (couple meters from a window, sitting at a desk). It's about 39 feet accuracy from this position. I'll test it standing outside my front door and see how the accuracy improved and update this post further.
EDIT2: Standing out on my driveway I get the same accuracy as above (20 feet) connected to 12 satellites - from Toronto, Ontario.
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
[*]should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i lolz. sending it back because you can't google. priceless.
sorry about your troubles, i guess you got the antitheses of my N7, because it's mint.
mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then contact Google for a refund. I don't have any problems with my Nexus.
Sent from my Nexus 7
mesmerize_21 said:
Problems:
extruding screen with the odd noise when you touch it
flashing graphics and lines flicker across screen
sometimes unresponsive when clicking icons
can't detect ad hoc networks (meaning lack of connection to internet phones, esp. Nokia, Symbian)
this coupled with no 3G connection (i.e. sim), gives connection on the move an added complication
drops internet connections too often for comfort
white graphics on the screen, look yellow
some bad lighting around edges of screen
apps in app store might not be for this device (more of an issue for basic users, but still frustrating),
app store lacks a Nexus 7 only feature.
cant turn it on and get started, without internet connection (that was annoying)
a camera, but you cant take pictures with it, need to get an app first (not user friendly for non techi people)
no music store
8 gb space but really its 5.8gb (they should stop selling things like that. 8gb space should mean that you get what it says in 'space').
slight strange issue; purple metal edging (why purple tint?)
poor quality speaker
should have called it something other than Nexus, hard to search internet for things specific to this device.
things i now miss and should have realised I would have, before I bought it:
- no rear camera, makes photo taking stupidly difficult.
- no memory card slot
- things are geared toward the cloud, but with all the internet issues it often means you can't connect to files on the go.
Rival to iPad? No way, why I didn't dig deeper into my pocket, I don't know.
Rival to Kindle Fire? only in power but bad quality control by google has let it down, it's a no from me.
Will I be sending it back? Yes.
Do you also feel as let down as I do? Answers below:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got a bad unit. Happens to iPads too. For what it's worth a good unit works fantastic.
As for the bottom half of your list.... you are really complaining about no memory slot and rear camera? And that there isn't really 8GB of space? EVERY device does that. There is a music store, it's called Google Music, but feel free to use Amazon MP3 as well. You seem to have let yourself down.....
Mine is perfect and everything I thought it would be, sorry for your problems.
It sounds to me like you wanted an iPad and tried to buy the nexus to save some money.
Go ahead and get an iPad, Android is more for people who like to tinker and modify and have choices. Apple works out really well for people who want a system laid out for them that's real simple and dummy and non techie friendly. I buy them for my parents for that reason. I also have an iPad and an iPhone 4S so when I tell you that you and Android arent a match I'm not meaning any harm.
Make sure you get the 3G model iPad because they are much more picky about WiFi tether than Android.
However keep in mind that many of the negatives you don't like about Android are identical with the iPad.
And android has the play store which is a music store so I'm confused on that one and some of the other complaints, I think a lot of it was just not taking the time to learn your way around.
I'm very happy with my nexus its exceeded my expectations by far. Its in perfect condition physically and Im running an amazing custom ROM and kernel.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Wow. Just wow. ...First post. No way this is real. :laugh:
Sounds like a troll to me, listing things it doesn't have that are clearly stated in all reviews and spec sheets - yet you label it all as negatives & utter surprise.
Also, where is the proof of your problems?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
U mad brah?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
_MetalHead_ said:
U mad brah?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That never gets old. :laugh:
I don't even own Nexus 7 yet, and I am still debating whether or not to get one, but this is obviously trolling. Same power as the Kindle Fire that doesn't even have Bluetooth? On what planet? Lol
Love those who join a forum just to post how they dislike something, and then never to be seen again.
Mine goes everywhere with me. I don't take pictures with a 1.2MP camera (what is this, 1998?)
Almost the entire list of "missing features" were never even speculated to be in this tablet. You fail at being a smart consumer. I chuckled. Was a joke, right?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
trolling...
please close thread
Trigger the trolls and go spend 500+ on a "new" iPad. My unit is a bad ass peace of tech, I'm not going to answer every problem you stated because you don't seek out solutions to these "problems".
Once I get my new phone (current one wont recognize USB connection) I'm tethering like a mofo.
Sounds like a one post iTroll.
Just buy an iPad and go away from this forum.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
I mean, you could always just google Nexus 7.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium