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Is there a rom with smooth working flash and youtube?

With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?

This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)

Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.

Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.

flammenwurfer said:
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)​
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.

Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?

flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg

The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.

I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.

Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.

JLCollier2005 said:
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?

I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.

flammenwurfer said:
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7

That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.

flammenwurfer said:
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....

Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.

I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.

glgehman said:
And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)

Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".

I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.

[Q] Uses for a disconnected Hero?

I just upgraded to the Epic 4G
Running SyndicatedROM Frozen 1.1 and it does everything
Now, what to do with my old phone...
Needless to say, my old phone is the HTC Hero CDMA, and it is no longer connected. Really sad since it's a perfectly good phone. I've been having trouble re-gifting to my friends because they are too cheap for Sprint, and they don't like the concept of texting on a (small) touch-screen phone.
I have been using it as my primary music player to off-load the battery drain on my Epic. However, it bugs me to use it *just* as a music player. With that said, what are some other uses for a disconnected Hero?
BTW - I'm running CyanogenMod7 rc4. And before you mention it, I know the stable release is out. I'll get around to it... eventually.

I use mine as a remote for my XMBC media player ( converted acer revo ) I can view all my media and tv shows etc on the hero's screen.. its nice..

jerm1027 said:
I have been using it as my primary music player to off-load the battery drain on my Epic. However, it bugs me to use it *just* as a music player. With that said, what are some other uses for a disconnected Hero?
BTW - I'm running CyanogenMod7 rc4. And before you mention it, I know the stable release is out. I'll get around to it... eventually.
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I have an old deactivated one that I use for mostly a music player / newsreader / game player on the road. It also occasionally functions as a remote for my PC/TV and a testbed for ROMs that I don't want to flash on my new Hero. (The old one got dropped in the snow and the speaker no longer works; though the headphone jack works fine... hence the replacement).
I have thought about getting a VoIP client set up on it (not sure if Google Voice would work with a deactivated phone or not) to use as a "home phone".
It does seem like a shame, though, huh? All that wasted glory.

MoMatt said:
I have an old deactivated one that I use for mostly a music player / newsreader / game player on the road. It also occasionally functions as a remote for my PC/TV and a testbed for ROMs that I don't want to flash on my new Hero. (The old one got dropped in the snow and the speaker no longer works; though the headphone jack works fine... hence the replacement).
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I just use mine for music. I found that the Hero doesn't work well as a gaming device since it lacks a decent GPU, and reading is fairly difficult, especially now that I'm use to to the Epic. In speaking of test beds, do you have any ROM recommendations for me? I'm looking for something lightweight; just for music, and a back-up phone.
MoMatt said:
I have thought about getting a VoIP client set up on it (not sure if Google Voice would work with a deactivated phone or not) to use as a "home phone".
It does seem like a shame, though, huh? All that wasted glory.
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That would be a great idea! I'll look into it. The Hero was great while it lasted. The perfect alternative to the iPhone that wasn't buggy as hell *cough,cough**Moment!**cough*

jerm1027 said:
In speaking of test beds, do you have any ROM recommendations for me? I'm looking for something lightweight; just for music, and a back-up phone.
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The gingerbread ROM builds started out as awesome and have only gotten better. I run aosp's 3/26 build with the s0be 2.6.35 #5 kernel on both of my Hero's and it is a million times snappier and stable than stock ever was. The 3/26 build is very small and let's you choose which Google apps to install, so it can be kept pretty lean.
Otherwise I'll just flash a new ROM on the old one first to test it out before putting it on my new one.
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I just use mine for music. I found that the Hero doesn't work well as a gaming device since it lacks a decent GPU, and reading is fairly difficult, especially now that I'm use to to the Epic.
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Yeah yeah yeah... I should upgrade. I really should.
Another suggestion for music; if you're short on sd card space and will have WiFi access with your Hero, check out Subsonic music streamer. It lets you stream your music through the web and they have an Android app.

MoMatt said:
Another suggestion for music; if you're short on sd card space and will have WiFi access with your Hero, check out Subsonic music streamer. It lets you stream your music through the web and they have an Android app.
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That's a sweet idea and thanks for the app too. Hopefully the EVO 3d doesn't use too much of my SD card memory but ill keep my hero for experimental purposes. Because I plan on learning how to fully theme Roms this summer , so the Hero will be a good experimenting phone.
From my Gingerbread Hero.

The new ICS beta-3 ROM

I would like to list few problems that i encounter after flashing the ICS-beta3 ROM through nvflash to my dell streak 7...
1. on press the wake button, before unlocking if i press the wake button again, the tablet freezes.
2. Titanium backup doesnt seem to work
3. bluetooth doesnt work properly
4. trebuchet doesnt work if the persistent search bar is turned off
5. LED too doesnt seem to work
6. few apps seem to ve lost compatibility
All said... DJ_Steve et al are doing an highly commendable job... thanks guys!
People do share your experience with the new ROM, any bugs, cool features, work-arounds....

Netflix does not stream video, just audio

also my .wma files are not being played by the music player any more and the power led doesnt work too

Tried it today, looks promising. Interface is pretty and seems a lot faster and more responsive than honeycomb. I switched back to honeycomb only because video playback was choppy. Something to look forward to for sure.
Mad props to DJ_Steve and other people who are contributing.

As for the video thing use a app called mobo player get fro the market it's free and if you run in it you tell it run the video file in soft-decode mode. And the video and audio is great. No Mater what kind of encoded file I give to pplay.

indeed the build in action is snappy.
also i ve been using mx player for video playback, i find it quite good.

Why so old like raisin?

Today we have a super stable ICS and a nearly stable JB but why in a heck do people still use and cook GB and Froyo ROMS? I've even seen Eclair phones gingerbread is slow and the 3D driver is terrible. I wanted to test and went back to cm7 and played asphalt 6 and it was laggy as heck! It only gave up to 10fps! Not good, plus it shows a wrong radio bar cause when I have one bar and want to call, a message pops up saying I have no signal. So guys can you explain to me why most people still running GB and below?
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Because: Samsung camera, music player, messaging app, contacts with slide function, memo etc. I'm still running GB only because I like the Touchwiz apps, and of course I'd upgrade to ICS/JB if they were possible to function..

dumle said:
Because: Samsung camera, music player, messaging app, contacts with slide function, memo etc. I'm still running GB only because I like the Touchwiz apps, and of course I'd upgrade to ICS/JB if they were possible to function..
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But they do function! They're better than GB in many ways! Speed and stability and memory management are the key concepts.
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maybe some people prefer stock features. Many people say samsung camera takes better photos (driver?), and I myself miss the stock music player even when I've been using ics and jb... and we still don't have any FM radio now

thomasnguyen said:
maybe some people prefer stock features. Many people say samsung camera takes better photos (driver?), and I myself miss the stock music player even when I've been using ics and jb... and we still don't have any FM radio now
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The stock music player is stupid because it doesn't have a filtering feature thus it plays every music file (ringtones, alarms, recordings etc.) And that's annoying.
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there are heaps of pretty reliable GB roms, the battery life also seems to be better but probably due to less CPU usage.

[Q] Audio missing from end of YouTube videos

Hi,
I've got a problem with the last few seconds of audio missing at the end of YouTube videos.
I'm using Flash version 11.1.111.43, the last one available for CM7.2. The CM7 is edowar's from a while back, with kernel 2.6.32.9.
The audio is missing during the first playback of the video. But if I then rewind the video and play the last few seconds again, the audio plays as normal.
It happens with all the browsers I've tried, including Dolphin, Opera Mobile, and the stock browser.
Please could someone provide a solution. I'd rather not upgrade to CM10 as I'm happy with the setup on this phone. But I watch YouTube videos a lot, and having to rewind the last few seconds each time is becoming tedious, so if I have to upgrade to CM10, I will. Ideally, I would just like to alter Flash in some way.
Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Jacko

If anyone is still using edowar's CM7.2, or indeed any CM7.2, please could you check a short YouTube video in your web browser, using a desktop user agent, and let me know if there is audio all the way to end?
This would help me to know whether or not there is something wrong with my setup.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Jacko

Well, at least I've learned that I'm the only one still watching YouTube on CM7.2.
I hope the gains from CM10 have been worth it for those of you who have upgraded, such as it being faster, more stable, and perhaps even that the FM radio and HDMI work.
Personally, I have always doubted that this phone could handle anything heavier than CM7 (which it only just manages to do with selective use of Autorun Manager, or something similar).
Or, I could just be in the wrong forum. But asking either Google or Adobe about a non-supported operating system running on an old, unpopular device, just doesn't seem worthwhile.
Anyway, I'm off now to kill this browser process and clear the various caches, before I crank up Aqua Mail to wade through some spam.
See you all later,
Jacko

Your not the only one using cm7.2 as am also a big fan. Most of us don't come here often, hence the delay in replying.
Well currently am using cm7.2 blackace by gundul which is ultra stable n fast with efficient multitasking capabilities.
It was also ported from edowar I think cos it came with his kernel as default.
You could give it a try, I can guarantee you that that Rom is the best in this forum so far.
Also u could try abens cm7.2 kernel to over come sod. Also CKs new kernel rocks this Rom really well.
Hope you find all these info useful.

Thanks for the reply. Whilst I appreciate it, my question was about YouTube and the Flash plugin cutting off the the last few seconds of audio on CM7, rather than which other CM7 ROMs I could change to.
Are you saying that audio does not stop early at the end of YouTube videos on your CM7 ROM?
If audio plays all the way to the end for you, which version of the Flash plugin are you using? You can find this out at http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
Your post on other CM7 ROMs may still be useful if I do have to change my ROM. But I would rather not go to the trouble unless I was sure that it would solve my YouTube audio problem.
Regards,
Jacko

many of my friends love this rom, so I made another improvement :beer:
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If anyone else wishes to ignore my original question and instead talk about different CM7 ROMs, then go for it.
But I would rather talk about audio with the Flash plugin and YouTube on CM7, if you don't mind.
Thanks,
Jacko

jacko9000 said:
If anyone else wishes to ignore my original question and instead talk about different CM7 ROMs, then go for it.
But I would rather talk about audio with the Flash plugin and YouTube on CM7, if you don't mind.
Thanks,
Jacko
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if your rom have problems..very difficult to fixed . because they have to learn about android rom and not just from the flash player,youtube and other 3rd party apps..
i like master edowar rom... need more times and more peoples to tes rom problems.. you can join in development to improve your rom.
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All I wanted was for someone to confirm whether or not the audio plays all the way to the end of YouTube videos in CM7.
Can someone with CM7 please try a YouTube video and tell me if the audio plays all the way to the end, or if it stops a few seconds early?
You don't have to tell me how to fix it, but PLEASE can you just test ONE YouTube video.
Thanks,
Jacko