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Im a first time andriod phone buyer and am starting to wonder if I bought the wrong one....
Is it just me or is this forum dead compared to the Skyrocket. Will there be an unlock for the boot loader?
Needless to say, I like the phone just wish we had more support...or will that come with time?

With a locked bootloader we are in habit of a jam however HTC had stated they will release the unlock, hopfuly Revolutionary and the likes are looking into exploits to get soff and boot
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drewdatrip said:
With a locked bootloader we are in habit of a jam however HTC had stated they will release the unlock, hopfuly Revolutionary and the likes are looking into exploits to get soff and boot
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Can you post a link to where HTC has said they will release an unlock?

just google around the fourm, Except AT&T all HTC Vivid variations are already supporting unlocked bootloader (Through htcdev.com)
If you are AT&T , bootloader is locked at the request of AT&T and I know you can call AT&T and complain because in USA google pushed for a law that would make all device unlocked on the new 700Mhz spectrum.

akcooper9 said:
Can you post a link to where HTC has said they will release an unlock?
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zombie.raised said:
just google around the fourm, Except AT&T all HTC Vivid variations are already supporting unlocked bootloader (Through htcdev.com)
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-announced-new-bootloader-policy
"There has been overwhelmingly [sic] customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience."
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If you are AT&T , bootloader is locked at the request of AT&T and I know you can call AT&T and complain because in USA google pushed for a law that would make all device unlocked on the new 700Mhz spectrum.
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HTC internal tech told me that ATT has not requested a lock nor do they have the authority to enfoce it. Then again their site says bootloader locks vary on devices based on their partners, not really sure there other then shiofting blame maybe
Drew

The only reason I can think of that an Internal Tech would say AT&T did not request the Lock is to cover their asses from a stupid lawsuit from AT&T considering how much money they have and how many different manufacturers exist. Other than that everything is pointing to it actually being AT&T who wants the phone locked considering the Rogers variation is unlocked. Also if you look at what phones are on that website that say can be unlocked None of the AT&T phones are on there even though they can be unlocked.

malickie said:
The only reason I can think of that an Internal Tech would say AT&T did not request the Lock is to cover their asses from a stupid lawsuit from AT&T considering how much money they have and how many different manufacturers exist. Other than that everything is pointing to it actually being AT&T who wants the phone locked considering the Rogers variation is unlocked. Also if you look at what phones are on that website that say can be unlocked None of the AT&T phones are on there even though they can be unlocked.
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Its very confusing beacuse both ATT and HTC have stated that neither of them have requested a bootloader lock and that it would be released "later"
I could see ATT requesting lockes however everyother device that is currently available LG, Samsung and ZTE all have unlocked bootloaders. So its very confusing that they would request locks on only 1 of their 10 Android devices.
TBH i have no idea, both both companies are saying the bootloader will be unlocked "later"
Drew

Something inside of me thinks that everyone will come out of the woodwork when perma root is achieved. Is that wishful think or...?

slapshot30 said:
Something inside of me thinks that everyone will come out of the woodwork when perma root is achieved. Is that wishful think or...?
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Permanent root will likely come from boot loader unlock.
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I think the forum is slow for a couple of reasons:
1. Like others have stated, there is only so much you can do without permanent root.
2. The phone just WORKS! I purchased $50 worth of apps on my old Atrix just to get it to do what Sense and HTC's implementation of Gingerbread does.
... Also, the phone is new and few accessories.
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willgill said:
I think the forum is slow for a couple of reasons:
1. Like others have stated, there is only so much you can do without permanent root.
2. The phone just WORKS! I purchased $50 worth of apps on my old Atrix just to get it to do what Sense and HTC's implementation of Gingerbread does.
... Also, the phone is new and few accessories.
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I totally agree, I unlocked the bootloader and got the temp root but now I don't know why I would need either of that. The only thing I did was removed some bloatware from system (not that I needed to do it). Everything till now seems to be perfect just works flawlessly or is broken that rooting won't fix.
I don't think there is is any ROM with sense 3.5 and 2.3.5 which can ported etc....I would rather wait for ICS and I don't think any one would work on porting it for this device yet any ways ,,,

the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.

argolfermd said:
the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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+1
At the end of the day, I blame ATT and HTC haha!

argolfermd said:
the only things I am looking to get out of root (other than some custom ROMs) are getting mobile hotspot working and to a lesser extent TiBu.
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Mobile hot spot works great if you have the proper plan, just fyi.
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drewdatrip said:
mobile hot spot works great if you have the proper plan, just fyi.
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lol lol lol

Atrix HD Developer Edition Coming soon

We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/

Now that's some bull****.

I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.

Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.

It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
Sent from my Atrix HD MAXX 4.1

This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|

Are you effing kidding me???

SirHoover2010 said:
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?

ripin150 said:
This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.

SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.

mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.

mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."

mandrsn1 said:
That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.

They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.

rquinn19 said:
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it

SirHoover2010 said:
My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?

mandrsn1 said:
Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.

[Q] HTC One Developer to flash TMO radio later

Hey, I live in Canada and I am with wind. I am really tempted to purchase the HTC one developer edition through a friend of mine. I know that it does not support the HSPA+ 1700Mhz network used by wind and TMO. However, the decive itself does. Would I be able to flash the TMO radio on it once they release the device, and just buy the developer edition beforehand? Just want to make sure that this would work.

People are saying that might be possible, but no one knows for sure until it has been done (not yet).

balint0808 said:
Hey, I live in Canada and I am with wind. I am really tempted to purchase the HTC one developer edition through a friend of mine. I know that it does not support the HSPA+ 1700Mhz network used by wind and TMO. However, the decive itself does. Would I be able to flash the TMO radio on it once they release the device, and just buy the developer edition beforehand? Just want to make sure that this would work.
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We're going to need S-Off for that and who knows when that will happen. And even then, no one really knows if it will work

Well, the developer edition will have s-off, or at least that's what I have heard. Getting the radio might be tricky, but knowing the devs on here someone will work it out. I was just wondering whether it would be physically feasible to get the missing frequency.
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balint0808 said:
Well, the developer edition will have s-off, or at least that's what I have heard. Getting the radio might be tricky, but knowing the devs on here someone will work it out. I was just wondering whether it would be physically feasible to get the missing frequency.
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The dev. edition has unlocked bootloader... NOT s-off.
EDIT: No s-off confirmed by HTCdev twitter: https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/320021639762944001

OK, I guess I was wrong there. Still, after rooting my HTC hero in 2009, my sisters desire in 10, my lg p999 in 11, friends Samsung galaxy s2 in 12, I should be able to get my HTC one a new radio in a month or so, once everyone gets their hands on this awesome device.
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Some of the later HTC devices, like my Amaze, only got S-Off by using a wire trick, which requires physical access to the inside of the phone (in the case of the Amaze, easily done by taking the back cover off). I wonder if S-Off will be possible on the One without physically disassembling it.
http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm .... Step 3, wire trick, which is needed for the phones listed.

Has this been done before on other HTC devices? I've preordered the 64 gb developer edition but am having second thoughts.
The reason I ask is that I bought the International version of the Galaxy note 1 with the expectation that one of our very talented developers could hack the radio to make the Tmobile band active... and it turned out to be way more complicated than anyone gave it credit for. Still not done for that note 1.
I'd like to feel a little more comfortable that this can be done with the One.
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it is interesting, should be an easy fix but here in canada the only provider that is worth paying for is WIND. For $40 you get unlimited, calls, texting and data. Everywhere else it is $60 for a gig or less. So, naturally I want to stick with my provider, the only bummer is that they use the HSPA+ networks, same as T-Mobile.
The unlocked phone also cost $250 more here for some weird reason.

I don't think it will be possible, I'm sure I read that the alternative frequencies burnt off the driver chip. It might have been in the Anandtech review.

Just contacted HTC, got this as an answer ot the S-off of the Developer edition.
"Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support Center.
Dear Balint, I am glad to know that you are a member of the HTC family and I will be more than happy to assist you.
Regarding the first question, your HTC One has the S-off."
so it is off, and have been confirmed.

balint0808 said:
Just contacted HTC, got this as an answer ot the S-off of the Developer edition.
"Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support Center.
Dear Balint, I am glad to know that you are a member of the HTC family and I will be more than happy to assist you.
Regarding the first question, your HTC One has the S-off."
so it is off, and have been confirmed.
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Seems like you should believe this when an S-Off phone is in your hands.

I have 64GB Developer Edition and it says Unlock with S-ON this is Popoo Im so mad at HTC it also says SIMLOCK I dont get it.
balint0808 said:
Well, the developer edition will have s-off, or at least that's what I have heard. Getting the radio might be tricky, but knowing the devs on here someone will work it out. I was just wondering whether it would be physically feasible to get the missing frequency.
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I have 64GB Developer Edition and it says Unlock with S-ON this is Popoo Im so mad at HTC it also says SIMLOCK I dont get it.
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I don't think HTC ever said the dev edition was going to be S-Off, just bootloader unlocked and SIM unlocked.
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Ok, Thanks But why it says on Bootloader SIMLOCK?
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I don't think HTC ever said the dev edition was going to be S-Off, just bootloader unlocked and SIM unlocked.
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ahernandez4110 said:
Ok, Thanks But why it says on Bootloader SIMLOCK?
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With an s-on radio hack now available is it possible for this to be tested?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245615

nilism said:
With an s-on radio hack now available is it possible for this to be tested?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245615
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I would like to know as well.

I flashed the T-Mobile radio last week and don't get HSPA on 1700MHZ. I continue to get LTE and I still get HSPA on the refarmed towers. How do I know? I have an older T-Mobile branded phone that I can compare against. At home I get nothing better than EDGE on my Developer Edition One but I get HSPA on my other phone (T-Mobile branded). If I travel down the road a little ways I get LTE and HSPA on the One.
BTW, there are a TON of threads in this and the other One forums that are discussing the T-Mobile radio on the Developer Edition One and it seems the consensus is that you need to change your CID and, to do that, you need S-OFF. MobileTechVideos.com has supposedly gotten S-OFF with a JTAG rig and, a little more tecently, without using a wire. Check their Facebook page for that info -- http://www.facebook.com/pages/MobileTechVideos/182579981788132

We have S-OFF!
Time to kickstart this discussion back up now that S-OFF is in our hands. Thanks to Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582

watermelun said:
Time to kickstart this discussion back up now that S-OFF is in our hands. Thanks to Revolutionary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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:good: to this! If anyone needs a guinea pig to test with, I have a newly s-off'ed Dev Edition in a non refarmed rural area. Just have no idea when it comes to software hacks as I'm mainly a hardware hacker/hobbyist. I miss the 3G I had with my One S, but I'm loving the 64 gigs on the One!

Sprint SIM Unlock

So I need to unlock my One for a trip to Europe next month. I called Sprint, we started the process and they told me that the One is already unlocked and that only the iPhone is locked. Is this true? From what I have read this doesn't seem to be the case. I have a GiffGaf SIM I tried to put in my phone and it says SIMLock enabled and doesn't allow me to do anything with the SIM. Thank you.
EDIT: 8/2/13 Here is the step by step guide to disable SIMLock. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44143251#post44143251
Thanks guys!

Page 33 of the Get Started guide for the HTC One is what you are looking for.

misfit0313 said:
Page 33 of the Get Started guide for the HTC One is what you are looking for.
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That is the number I called and talked to a representative and then a supervisor.

SephirothWGP said:
So I need to unlock my One for a trip to Europe next month. I called Sprint, we started the process and they told me that the One is already unlocked and that only the iPhone is locked. Is this true? From what I have read this doesn't seem to be the case. I have a GiffGaf SIM I tried to put in my phone and it says SIMLock enabled and doesn't allow me to do anything with the SIM. Thank you.
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Don't bother trying the sim is unlocked but the phones work out of a frequency that none of the carriers will pick up. If you're so interested in having an unlocked phone why you even with Sprint?
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Because one vacation two week vacation isn't a valid reason to switch carriers. I have my old TP2, its not a big deal. I just figured it would be nice to use my new phone while on vacation... So you are saying the only frequency that the One supports is the frequency for LTE and not that of any GSM carriers?

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So I need to unlock my One for a trip to Europe next month. I called Sprint, we started the process and they told me that the One is already unlocked and that only the iPhone is locked. Is this true? From what I have read this doesn't seem to be the case. I have a GiffGaf SIM I tried to put in my phone and it says SIMLock enabled and doesn't allow me to do anything with the SIM. Thank you.
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I went through about 6 different reps before I got a supervisor who knows anything you have to talk to international tech and then then submit a claim for you which is then reviewed by another department who then contacts you with a yes or no. It will automatically be a no if your phone hasn't been active for 90 days. They gave me that BS even with me being a rep and getting my phone given to me by HTC free of cost. So its not like I paid a subsidized price or anything but yes long process
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I went through about 6 different reps before I got a supervisor who knows anything you have to talk to international tech and then then submit a claim for you which is then reviewed by another department who then contacts you with a yes or no. It will automatically be a no if your phone hasn't been active for 90 days. They gave me that BS even with me being a rep and getting my phone given to me by HTC free of cost. So its not like I paid a subsidized price or anything but yes long process
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Thank you for your response. So did you ultimately get it approved, or am I wasting my time until it has been 90 days? Which by the way is the stupid rule I have ever heard. I have been a long time Sprint customer why should it matter how long I have owned my phone?

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Thank you for your response. So did you ultimately get it approved, or am I wasting my time until it has been 90 days? Which by the way is the stupid rule I have ever heard. I have been a long time Sprint customer why should it matter how long I have owned my phone?
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Haven't gotten a response
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Good luck to both of you on getting your CDMA radios to pick up anything internationally.
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shook187 said:
Good luck to both of you on getting your CDMA radios to pick up anything internationally.
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It is a CDMA/GSM phone it will work internationally, that is not the issue. The question at hand is if the SIM can be unlocked so I can use another carrier and not pay Sprints outrageous international fees. Dual CDMA/GSM phones are nothing new. I have my old Touch Pro2 from years ago if this doesn't work, which is also a CDMA phone. Unless you have something helpful to add feel free to overlook my thread.

WTF? Is Sprint now locking all GSM phones? That policy used to apply only to iPhones. In the past, all other Sprint GSM-capable equipment was shipped unlocked.
I actually think it it would be reasonable for them to ship everything locked as long as they let established subscribers in good standing remove the lock upon request. Having to wait 90 days from the phone being activated does seem ridiculous. I don't see what they gain by doing this besides aggravating their customers.
In a semi related matter... Note that I believe the Sprint HTC One only supports one UMTS frequency (2100). That could be a problem in some countries as far as data service is concerned.

The 90 day rule is only for new customers, not a new phone. If you are a long time customer, it will be no problem. Just call the international department and they can take care of it.
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The 90 day rule is only for new customers, not a new phone. If you are a long time customer, it will be no problem. Just call the international department and they can take care of it.
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Thanks for the reply. I hope what you say is true. That would be a reasonable policy to follow.

Props as I already got mine unlocked with this info on day one. Sprint basically said they are not requiring an international roaming plan with this phone and that the 90 day thing for new people is to prevent them from buying their phones and selling for profit internationally.
Sprint is the only non carrier branded hardware version of the hardware available in the US as well.
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Don't bother trying the sim is unlocked but the phones work out of a frequency that none of the carriers will pick up. If you're so interested in having an unlocked phone why you even with Sprint?
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Because it should work in Europe. They he different frequency that the US.
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bender_123 said:
Props as I already got mine unlocked with this info on day one. Sprint basically said they are not requiring an international roaming plan with this phone and that the 90 day thing for new people is to prevent them from buying their phones and selling for profit internationally.
Sprint is the only non carrier branded hardware version of the hardware available in the US as well.
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Well, in that case, two thumbs up for Sprint for: quickly providing the unlock code :good: and for not branding the device :good:.
BTW, which department at Sprint gave you the unlock code?

I am on a sero plan, so my concierge. I am sure just about any other knowledgable rep can do this. So there's the rub...find that person. Lol.
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Sign into your sprint account online,mime it's showing my pin and punk unlock code. Don't know if that will be enough but maybe
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I finally got through the process enough that I am now pending approval since my device isn't 90 days old. Non of the reps I talked to knew anything, they said the iPhone was the only phone that needed to be unlocked, that my phone was already unlocked, that it wasn't possible to use an international SIM. Be persistent insist that you are correct and that your phone does indeed require an unlock. Now hopefully it comes back with no problems from the approval process, I will be raising hell if they deny my device since it is new. That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard in my life. Good luck!

HTC ONE is a World Phone
the HTC ONE supports all GSM frequencies making it a world phone capable of using local SIM in other countries. Thanks.

Bounty for non HTCdev bootloader unlock + root.

Willing to get things rolling with $20 for someone who can get root without using the HTCDev root for the Sprint variant.
If it's possible to retain HTC Warranty, I think it'd be worth looking into.
Anyone else agree?

Greetings,
There is already a Bounty thread for the M8 (it does say for all GSM variants) but there is mention of Sprint devices in said thread.
If I remember correctly @beaups said he will not be working on an HTC-Dev workaround (meaning any device that is unlockable through HTC-Dev) maybe he'll pop in and clarify.
I'll leave the thread open for now, there may be other devs working on an exploit.
Thanks BD619

I don't understand. Looking for working temproot to run permanent soff solution sans Htcdev or looking for some permaroot with locked/s-on
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beaups said:
I don't understand. Looking for working temproot to run permanent soff solution sans Htcdev or looking for some permaroot with locked/s-on
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He wants to bypass HTC Dev would be my guess

Never heard of warranty issues in USA. Is that happening now
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Occasionally HTC will refuse/charge for service if a device has been unlocked prior.

BD619 said:
He wants to bypass HTC Dev would be my guess
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Exactly.
HTC refused to send me a replacement M7 for the purple camera haze because I had an unlocked bootloader.
Blamed the purple haze on overheating due to using non HTC software. complete BS.
Yes, bypassing HTCdev is the goal.

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Never heard of warranty issues in USA. Is that happening now
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See my post just above.

So what you are asking for is what is the same thing in this thread right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733870

orangekid said:
So what you are asking for is what is the same thing in this thread right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733870
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Nope.
This thread is requesting root, not S-OFF.

Captain_Throwback said:
Nope.
This thread is requesting root, not S-OFF.
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I see,
So just looking for Perm Root / System RW without S OFF.
Alright, well good luck!

orangekid said:
I see,
So just looking for Perm Root / System RW without S OFF.
Alright, well good luck!
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Specifically, root without HTC Dev (which is currently the only way to achieve root on any non-Verizon variants).
Personally I've never had any issues with warranty concerns and I've used HTC Dev on every device I've had since the OG EVO. It's relatively easy to restore the device to a completely unrooted/stock state once you've gotten S-OFF, so I've never seen a need to find an alternative method to root.

Captain_Throwback said:
Specifically, root without HTC Dev (which is currently the only way to achieve root on any non-Verizon variants).
Personally I've never had any issues with warranty concerns and I've used HTC Dev on every device I've had since the OG EVO. It's relatively easy to restore the device to a completely unrooted/stock state once you've gotten S-OFF, so I've never seen a need to find an alternative method to root.
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But they have record of your IMEI / ESN having used HTC Dev in the past, even when you go back to stock before sending in, correct?

orangekid said:
But they have record of your IMEI / ESN having used HTC Dev in the past, even when you go back to stock before sending in, correct?
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They have a record of your having requested an unlock code, sure. But that doesn't mean you ever used it to unlock the device.
Unless they have some reason to suspect that you've harmed your device by unlocking it, I doubt HTC would bother checking. And Sprint definitely wouldn't bother checking with HTC to see if that's the case if the device appears to be in stock condition.
I've returned many devices to Sprint for warranty replacements and one device to HTC directly and have NEVER had an issue.

Captain_Throwback said:
They have a record of your having requested an unlock code, sure. But that doesn't mean you ever used it to unlock the device.
Unless they have some reason to suspect that you've harmed your device by unlocking it, I doubt HTC would bother checking. And Sprint definitely wouldn't bother checking with HTC to see if that's the case if the device appears to be in stock condition.
I've returned many devices to Sprint for warranty replacements and one device to HTC directly and have NEVER had an issue.
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That's a good point, I have returned devices to Sprint when I was on Sprint and they didn't ask me anything or even check the bootloader, they just replaced it.
I am not sure how much interested for developers this particular request will generate, but we'll see...
Thanks for the clarification Captain..
I was confused because I didn't think it was possible to get perm root on an HTC device without unlocking the bootloader..

Why not take the device back to the carrier instead of shipping back to HTC?
I do not believe there to be a permroot available without having first unlocked the bootloader or at least, I haven't seen it done.
I don't know much about the m8 as I'm on the t6 but both t6 and m7 didn't need to use htc-dev.
Either Rumrunner, or weaksauce coupled with rumrunner.
Beaups would be most able to answer this question for you.

IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Why not take the device back to the carrier instead of shipping back to HTC?
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These stories of people walking into a Sprint store with a broken phone and walking out with a new one are nothing more than mythology, to me.

elrayray said:
These stories of people walking into a Sprint store with a broken phone and walking out with a new one are nothing more than mythology, to me.
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Precisely.
I guess the stores in areas outside of mine would rather just replace the device and not ask questions than try to shift the blame to the customer or to HTC.
Standard response from techs here is,"Call Assurion."

IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
I do not believe there to be a permroot available without having first unlocked the bootloader or at least, I haven't seen it done.
Beaups would be most able to answer this question for you.
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There isn't and that's what I'm requesting.
Root, which also requires an unlocked bootloader... that I would like to not have unlocked by htcdev.
If there isn't much interest in it, no biggie. I'll just htcdev unlock if nothing comes of this over the next couple weeks.
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JONBOY345 said:
Precisely.
I guess the stores in areas outside of mine would rather just replace the device and not ask questions than try to shift the blame to the customer or to HTC.
Standard response from techs here is,"Call Assurion."
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If your phone is damaged then you have to deal with Assurion.... If it's software or device malfunction then the store will replace it no question... Most you would need to do is put stock recovery back and relock device...
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