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Modify Verizon Droid to work with Sprint

With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.

othelil said:
With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
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the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?

adrianh85 said:
the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
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Illegal, huh? Good 'ol US; the only country that feels the need to so tightly bind our devices to specific carriers. I vastly prefer the unlocked GSM phone model that Europe operates under. Le sigh.
Thanks for the info. I'm unlikely to sell, as I can find uses even for a device that doesn't have service. I just thought I could kill the proverbial two birds with one stone if I could make it work. C'est la vie.

You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.

Cirkustanz said:
You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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I'm not forgetting at all. The difference is that phones here, even for those two carriers, are sold locked rather than unlocked. Many consumers don't even know they have a choice, nor are they aware that their phones can be unlocked. The fact that the phones can be unlocked, and maybe could be used somewhere else in the world (depending on whether or not they support non-US bands), hardly excuses the fact that a tiny number of consumers would ever even realize that, or go through the hoops and hurdles necessary to unlock their phones.
This is a far cry from a market with many options for carriers where phones are sold unlocked and can be easily moved between any available carrier. The Wikipedia listing of mobile network operators in Europe (which I can't post) is quite illuminating when you realize that countries a tiny fraction of our size have a lot more than 2 choices that the phones they purchase, their property, can operate on. I would say cheering that at least we have two choices seems a little silly when the competition level here for carriers is so much weaker than elsewhere in the world.
Let's just say I'm more than a bit frustrated that what I've been gifted is, in the absence of one particular company's service, a brick. The phone belongs to me, yet whether or not I can use it as more than an alarm clock is dictated by only one company. It seems a little silly, and more than a tad bit frustrating. I would have much preferred an unlocked GSM phone; not only would I have two networks, albeit only one with 3G, to choose from, but my international options would have been wonderful.

Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off

Mr_Vicious said:
Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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No, because the A855 does not have a GSM radio in it. Without the capable hardware, what you want to do is impossible.

Flashing HTC Incredible 2 with Incredible S radios?

Here is my situation: I actually own an HTC Incredible 2, the American version of the Incredible S. As far as I've learned - the phones are nearly identical - the US version simply sporting a Verizon logo and software.
I'm currently stationed in Europe, Poland to be specific. I use my phone in GSM mode with a local carrier. After rooting and flashing CM7 for the first time, I noticed my reception getting significantly worse than before (And if not, it's pretty **** in the first place.)
I an attempt to remedy this, I flashed the newest .1111 radio from the Inc2 forums, unfortunately that not only didn't help - but resulted in a ~10db drop in my reception.
I figure that maybe since I'm in Europe, the Inc2 drivers are not suited for my location and the IncS has the software I need. Is this asking for a brick, and if not - are there any proven-to-work with GSM in Europe radios for me to try?

My general understandstanding and experience with reading with the gsm HTC flyer and the CDMA EVO view tablet (evo is CDMA ver of flyer) you are askimg for a brick. Its generally advised there that we should not do it. But to be honest, I don't think many people were really willing to try in the first place.

According to GSMarena the incredible s and the 2 have different chipsets. Along with the fact that the 2 is a cdma and GSM/hsdpa phone, while the s is GSM/hsdpa only we can safely assume the radios would be very different. Taking a chance like flashing a radio is not something I would recommend.

surely u will end up in a bricked device~!

[Q] HTC ONE with different band

With the HTC One supporting so many different band (Euro/Asia/4xUSA/...), will all ONE be the same phone or different phones with same name?
Will it be same phone tuned to different band, like HTC DHD & Inspire 4G?
Or different phones, like HTC One X International & US version?
Thanks in advance.

it's the same phone tuned to different band

Riyal said:
it's the same phone tuned to different band
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Doubt that much, it probably just has a radio that only allows certain bands.
At least that's my hopeful thinking
Slithered from my HTC One X+

superchilpil said:
Doubt that much, it probably just has a radio that only allows certain bands.
At least that's my hopeful thinking
Slithered from my HTC One X+
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HTC is just a small company compared to sony or samsung I doubt they have enough factories to supply different hardware per region just for the sake of this whole frequency uniqueness style.

Riyal said:
HTC is just a small company compared to sony or samsung I doubt they have enough factories to supply different hardware per region just for the sake of this whole frequency uniqueness style.
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That's what I'm saying.
The software radio is probably set to the carrier, so they are all the same hardware but software limits which frequencies it can use
I've seen HTC do this before, once we get s-off we could flash a international radio and have a true world phone
Slithered from my HTC One X+

superchilpil said:
That's what I'm saying.
The software radio is probably set to the carrier, so they are all the same hardware but software limits which frequencies it can use
I've seen HTC do this before, once we get s-off we could flash a international radio and have a true world phone
Slithered from my HTC One X+
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Ohh I understand now Yeah and hopefully this is true. But alot of users tend to disagree with this since I already asked this on the past.
Look
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160064

Riyal said:
Ohh I understand now Yeah and hopefully this is true. But alot of users tend to disagree with this since I already asked this on the past.
Look
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160064
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Like I said its hopeful thinking, but with a mass rollout like this I would think they would take this route instead of making different variants
They only have to update "ONE" phone although a lot of carriers add bloat so that will slow down the update process.
We will see...
Slithered from my HTC One X+

superchilpil said:
Like I said its hopeful thinking, but with a mass rollout like this I would think they would take this route instead of making different variants
They only have to update "ONE" phone although a lot of carriers add bloat so that will slow down the update process.
We will see...
Slithered from my HTC One X+
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That's what I am hoping too..

HTC X8T (Sprint) Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help

Okay so yesterday my dream phone came out on sprint network the HTC X8T I really like this phone a lot. to my understanding the HTC X8T Is a lot like the HTC ONE with boom sound and front faceing spekers. but yet running windows phone 8. so I am very interested In this phone.
but yet I have a lot of questions.
1. is there an unlocked version of the phone I can buy?
2. is sprint the only ones selling this device?
3. could this device be used on boost mobile instead of sprint.
4. what are the chances of a boost version?
5.why is there not new fourm for this new device?
That should be a good start thanks.

1. Unlocked version: Maybe. Sprint uses CDMA2000, rather than GSM, although they might use SIM cards for LTE support like Verizon does (I haven't checked) typically, CDMA2000 phones won't work on other networks unless those other networks also use CDMA, and sometimes not then (because they're locked). I don't know yet whether the 8XT will be available unlocked in general, or available for GSM.
2. Sprint only seller: So far as I know, yes. If there's a GSM variant, you'll be able to buy it internationally. If not, then they will probably be the only one this side of China or something. I'd expect a GSM variant, but I don't know.
3. Use on Boost: See the answer to #1.
4. Boost version: I doubt anybody here knows. You should ask Boost Mobile about that.
5. New forum: Many WP8 devices don't have their own forums. Until such time as custom ROMs or similar are possible, one WP8 device is much like another, so there isn't usually enough traffic to justify per-phone forums.
By the way, the 8XT looks somewhat liike the One, and has the same speakers, but its specs are considerably worse. Its screen is lower resolution, and I believe it's processor is much less powerful.

HTC has not announced a version or variant of this phone for anyone except Sprint, so for now, we can only assume its a Sprint only device and does not come unlocked. Considering that Sprint is CDMA, it wouldn't be wise to purchase a Sprint branded phone to use on other networks as it will most likely not work. Boost has been known to activate Sprint phones on their service, but its very hit or miss as you need to speak directly with a customer service rep, and that itself is difficult. XD

prjkthack said:
HTC has not announced a version or variant of this phone for anyone except Sprint, so for now, we can only assume its a Sprint only device and does not come unlocked. Considering that Sprint is CDMA, it wouldn't be wise to purchase a Sprint branded phone to use on other networks as it will most likely not work. Boost has been known to activate Sprint phones on their service, but its very hit or miss as you need to speak directly with a customer service rep, and that itself is difficult. XD
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You only need to look at the radio specs for the phone. I knew it was for Sprint a full week before the tech i was on the phone with did and she was Tier 2 support with 'upcoming training for some new WP8 device' but didnt know what the hardware was.
It runs on the 1xRTT network, so wont even work on VZW. Also given that Sprint is (or at least used to be) an HTC Premier Partner its no surprise they made a phone that only Sprint would carry. Its smack in the middle of the 8X and 8S but what sucks is we are stuck with Touch Pro2/Arrive resolution on a screen thats nearly 33% bigger (4.3" vs 3.7"). Will i get one? Im still on the fence as my TP2 still does the job for me, even without native apps for Twitter or games.

Sprint NOTE 4 on T-Mobile

does anyone know if the Sprint Note 4 SAMSUNG N910 BLK XCVR SGL (SPHN910BK1) can be used on a T-Mobile network? the specs in PHONEARENA are all the same for the NOTE 4 regardless of carrier.
Thanks.

Most likely not. Sprint phones use whole different variety of cellar bands. That's also why they are so cheap since you can't use them outside the US or with any other carrier essentially. To put simply their radios ate neutered to only support sprints network.

Virusbetax said:
Most likely not. Sprint phones use whole different variety of cellar bands. That's also why they are so cheap since you can't use them outside the US or with any other carrier essentially. To put simply their radios ate neutered to only support sprints network.
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Absolutely nothing you said is in the slightest correct or true. How are they cheap? And actually the Sprint Note 4 is actually capable of supporting the most.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2900277
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By the way I was speaking from past knowledge 99 percent of there phones are not unlovable or not supported. Anyways what's the point if you can't unlock the device? By the way the network maybe supported but do you have hard evidence that it actually picks the signals? Until you have hard evidence then your statement is invalid. I made a generalization. Just trying to help out a fellow xda user.
EDIT: I just realized this is different user.