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Rooted/Nandroid with Bootstrapped Recovery..
I was in the car today,device charged about 40%, noticed the Bionic (for the first time) spontaneously booted. Got the boot screen icon, then black.
Went home, pulled the battery, put in the dock, nothing. Battery back in, nothing.
I think I've eliminated the battery as the cause.
Called Verizon, level 2 tech, offered to send a replacement; I opted to go the the brick and mortar store in the AM so as not to wait for 2 days.
Three questions:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
Thx
Alan
arcopress said:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
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No, MOST* smart phones cannot run on AC power alone. They require some charge on the battery in order to boot.
*added the emphasis before someone comes running in because their OG Droid/Nexus One/RAZR/POS flip phone/whatever could run off AC power alone.
arcopress said:
If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
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Rooting your device may void your warranty. Most of the time if it's a physical problem and not related to software, the warranty will still be honored. However, it'll probably be an uphill fight.
arcopress said:
Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
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I'd try to get ahold of another battery. I'm willing to bet that yours is defective.
I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
arcopress said:
I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
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Why would it?
The dock is just an AC charger with a stand.
Try fastboot. Rsd lite. Fxz file
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With my Droid X and a dead battery the phone would have to sit about 5 minutes and charge before it would come on at all. Wall charger, not USB via computer.
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its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
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its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
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yep, it's true.
I ran my bionic's battery dry the first day I had it. I was trippin out thinking it was broken or something.
After about 5-10 min of charging, I noticed it had a charging Icon.
I realized that I was upset over nothing.
I put it in the wall charger for the 10th time and noticed after about 10 minutes that it lit up with the boot screen, then the battery icon, which showed 0 percent... then it died. So it does look to be the battery. That's good news, I guess. Should I try to get a replacement from VZW, or spare the cross-exam about rooting and fork out the cash for a new battery?
If you want to spare yourself of the cross exam about root, get a new extended battery. Or if you firmly believe that the battery was defective to begin with, then stand your ground and ask that you be given a new one.
You should be fine taking it in. I would do what has been stated and just get a new battery because if it isn't that then it is a hardware issue and that isn't the roots fault anyways.
Also as a kind of FYI thing, Verizon does not do in store warranty replacements anymore(an exception being if you're within the 14day WFG period and the phone is ruled DOA). VZW, in store, does 5 day(overnight if you have insurance) shipping for free. If you want it sooner, you pay the shipping cost. Further, warranty replacement phones do not come with a new battery. They use the old phone's battery.
Where I'm going with this is always start with the battery in situations like this. That can be warrantied in store on the spot. Also make sure you're going to a corporate location.
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Like most cell phone batteries, they aren't designed to be completely drained.
I recommend charging it full, waiting tell it gets to about 10%, then charge it fully one more time.
After that charge, your battery should last you all day.
No need to waste money on an extend battery.
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Don't worry, you're not the first to have a dead phone. I had to go get a new one after three days.
Couldn't get booted past Motorola splash through any method, and an unlocked bootloader may have helped. But, in the past, and Verizon was happy to hand over a new one.
Wish I had more useful information, but I don't. So, good luck on getting your beast tamed.
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Update...
Went to the VZW store at 9... tech swapped out the battery for a new one. NO GOOD. Nothing.
Probably a good thing, as this way they couldn't void the warranty when they discovered it was rooted
Replaced the phone (17 days after purchase; had to get the mgr to approve a swap)..
Restoring apps as we speak..
Makes one wonder what's up with Motorola's QC dept.
I've had this phone for about two weeks now (I bought it used). When I got the phone the battery lasted pretty much all day for about 4-5 days. Then I pretty much started having charging issues. When the phone would fully die it would lock up. Sometimes when the phone had 80% battery it would lock up and stay that way for about 30-60 seconds. It would then reboot possibly lock up on boot for another 30-60 seconds, then if it did come on the battery would have an explanation mark telling you it needed to be charged. Now sometimes when you go to charge the phone it would turn on but have a question mark inside of the battery instead of where the colors are while it's charging and off.
I tried to purchase a battery locally and replace it. This battery does the same thing. The phone will boot for a bit, charge, then shut off. When I go into fastboot mode it says 'battery low'. When I got the phone and started having problems it was still stock everything, no root. Now I am running Youngunn's HoloBlur performance edition and the battery I tried to replace it with is an EB40.
The questions I really have are this.
1- When a battery is bad does it cause the '?' mark
2- Does the EB40 have to be calibrated some how, or does the ROM just pretty much know what's up
I don't really want to drop another $50 into a battery if that doesn't the issue. However in my past experience and knowledge of electronics and phones it seems to be the battery.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a battery calibration app
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have you tried a battery calibration app
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I can't really get that far into the phone. After I get the phone booted it says low batt then goes through the power down process
Update: After reading a few threads on this site and others I've heard them all talking about using the OEM charger. I was using the USB brick I use for my Samsung tablet 5v 2a. I've just found a moto charger at my house which is 5v 550ma and the charging meter is now going up.
Thank you for searching guy.
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You're welcome man!
I took the battery that I purchased back and ordered a new one off Amazon. I put my old battery back in the phone and left it alone. After the phone charged for two hours it said it was at 25%. I booted the phone up got about five mins of use out of it and it locked again and wouldn't turn back on. When the phone isnt on and just charging, does it use the ROM to display the battery charging meter?
Here's another update.. I got the new battery in and put it in the phone. I tried to power it up just to see if it had a charge and it displayed the unlocked bootloader logo and shut back off. I then tried to plug it into, still nothing. I eventually got the green light on the top to show up. At first it was blinking, then it went solid with a very small blink. After that, still nothing.
I have tried using a 5v 500ma, 5v 1a, and 5v 2a charger and still nothing. Does anyone have any ideas?
You used the stock moto charger?
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deeje00 said:
You used the stock moto charger?
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I went to ATT and tried to get the OEM charger from them but they said they didn't have one. They were trying to use a 5v 1a usb cord with a block on the end. The only actual Motorola charger I have is what I got when I had my Atrix 4G. It's a 5v 500ma...
What is the voltage / amperage on the OEM charger?
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I went to ATT and tried to get the OEM charger from them but they said they didn't have one. They were trying to use a 5v 1a usb cord with a block on the end. The only actual Motorola charger I have is what I got when I had my Atrix 4G. It's a 5v 500ma...
What is the voltage / amperage on the OEM charger?
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The charger I got with mine is a 5.1v .750mA unit. Mine has two usb ports on it.
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The charger I got with mine is a 5.1v .750mA unit. Mine has two usb ports on it.
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Thanks man. I guess I'll head back up there in the AM and see if that helps. Although now I'm feeling like something else is wrong with the phone.
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Cued4 said:
Thanks man. I guess I'll head back up there in the AM and see if that helps. Although now I'm feeling like something else is wrong with the phone.
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I have never used the original Moto USB charger. I usually use anything that was convenient and that includes my, laptop, desktop, HTC, LG, and Samsung USB chargers.
Same here. With any of my devices for that matter. Usually the phone can dumb it down or just not charge.
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And sometimes that's fine but If it won't charge first thing to try is the factory charger to rule that out.
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After going up to the ATT store and getting them to try multiple adapters it still isn't working. I have noticed that when you plug it into the computer it recognizes the phone.. To what extent I have no idea (since I only plugged it in for a minute at the store). There are also times when you plug it in and the green light will be flashing, and other times the light will be solid.
Like I said this is straight puzzling. The phone worked fine for a few days with no issues. It seems like it got wet but there's no way it could have.
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have you tried a battery calibration app
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This is a hoax. Battery calibration is not real (Words from a google/android employee). All these apps do is maybe clean up the battery statistics so android builds new ones (which it does by itself in the long run anyways). This process has nothing to do with the actual battery/hardware.
That's all they're meant to do. Wipe the stats so it will get a correct reading.
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Did you solved it?
I had the same issue ..couldnt fine a workaround uptill now
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Solution:
1.Take out your battery.
2.See those contacts between the terminals? Yes, they're the battery sensors. If they're not in contact with the base plates on the phone board, do something about it. I don't know what, you decide.
3.get some naked wire and create your own screw washers, for the terminals. Screw them under the screw, between the battery board and base screw holes.
4.Tighten properly.
Done.
Now, try again till the charger accepts that your battery is existent.
You are welcome.
I'm trying to help a friend who has a moto x. Her phone just isn't charging at all. I connect it to a computer and the pc sees a device connected, but cant figure out what it is. I've tried connecting it to a wall charger, and while the phone can see the charger in the boot choice mode, its just not taking a charge. Any ideas? I've told her to take it back to where she got it, but is this a common problem?
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I'm trying to help a friend who has a moto x. Her phone just isn't charging at all. I connect it to a computer and the pc sees a device connected, but cant figure out what it is. I've tried connecting it to a wall charger, and while the phone can see the charger in the boot choice mode, its just not taking a charge. Any ideas? I've told her to take it back to where she got it, but is this a common problem?
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I dont think its a common problem. Could be a faulty device
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I dont think its a common problem. Could be a faulty device
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That's what I'm hoping. Don't want to have her stuck with a lemon or having to deal with Moto's customer service. I've heard nothing but horror stories. So I'm hoping the store she got it from doesn't give her any trouble replacing it. She didn't care about customization and just got the stock white one the stores get for quick sales.
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That's what I'm hoping. Don't want to have her stuck with a lemon or having to deal with Moto's customer service. I've heard nothing but horror stories. So I'm hoping the store she got it from doesn't give her any trouble replacing it. She didn't care about customization and just got the stock white one the stores get for quick sales.
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Well it does have a 2 year warranty
How long has she had it?
Which cable are you using to charge it? I've cruised a few forums and found a lot of people said that it wouldn't charge unless they used the original charging cable. I don't know why that is, but in my experience I've had the same thing happen with only one other cable and the phone refused to charge. Brought it home and used the original charger and boom! Booted up right away.
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Which cable are you using to charge it? I've cruised a few forums and found a lot of people said that it wouldn't charge unless they used the original charging cable. I don't know why that is, but in my experience I've had the same thing happen with only one other cable and the phone refused to charge. Brought it home and used the original charger and boom! Booted up right away.
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I use cords and wall chargers made for all sorts of devices ...they all charge my X.
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I use cords and wall chargers made for all sorts of devices ...they all charge my X.
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Maybe my other cables are just having issues then. Wouldn't be the first time....
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Got my Note 5 with the adaptive faster charger about 3 and a half weeks ago. On my second Note 5 now (had to send the first one in due to problems) and everything was working fine until a couple of days ago. I would notice my phone saying "charging" and then I would have to unplug and plug it back in then the "fast charging" would appear. Now it doesn't ever go into "fast charging" and no matter what I do I always get "charging". I currently have 93% battery and it is telling me 15 minutes until full which seems a lot slower. I tried using my old Note 4 fast charger and get the same issue.
Anyone else with this issue? Wondering if it's the phone or actual charger and if there is anything I can do to get a replacement.
I never paid attention, but I just always figured that the adaptive charger would switch from 5V/2A to 9V/1.67A when it was nearing full charge.
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Try a factory reset. If it doesn't work, get it exchanged asap.
Check if the fast charging option in power settings is enabled
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pakure said:
Check if the fast charging option in power settings is enabled
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This doesn't exist anymore in Note5
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Got my Note 5 with the adaptive faster charger about 3 and a half weeks ago. On my second Note 5 now (had to send the first one in due to problems) and everything was working fine until a couple of days ago. I would notice my phone saying "charging" and then I would have to unplug and plug it back in then the "fast charging" would appear. Now it doesn't ever go into "fast charging" and no matter what I do I always get "charging". I currently have 93% battery and it is telling me 15 minutes until full which seems a lot slower. I tried using my old Note 4 fast charger and get the same issue.
Anyone else with this issue? Wondering if it's the phone or actual charger and if there is anything I can do to get a replacement.
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I know this thread is kind of old but in case you havent resolved your issue. I had the same problem with my phone so I called warranty, they sent me a brand new charger with cable and it works fine now. I compared the one they sent as a replacement and the one that came with the phone and the replacement cable is actually a lot thicker and feels way more durable. My guess is Samsung cheaped out and threw in a crappy cable to save cost but it wears down A LOT faster than a durable heavy duty one like the replacement I got. Anyways the new charger is working 100% of the time and has held up for about a week so far. we'll see how much longer this cable last.
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I know this thread is kind of old but in case you havent resolved your issue. I had the same problem with my phone so I called warranty, they sent me a brand new charger with cable and it works fine now. I compared the one they sent as a replacement and the one that came with the phone and the replacement cable is actually a lot thicker and feels way more durable. My guess is Samsung cheaped out and threw in a crappy cable to save cost but it wears down A LOT faster than a durable heavy duty one like the replacement I got. Anyways the new charger is working 100% of the time and has held up for about a week so far. we'll see how much longer this cable last.
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Quick question, did you contact Samsung directly for this? Did they mail you something or did you have to go in to a local repair depot?
Thanks.
HeyYoWL said:
Quick question, did you contact Samsung directly for this? Did they mail you something or did you have to go in to a local repair depot?
Thanks.
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I actually called ATT customer service/warranty center. He told me he'd send me a new charger and cable and I needed to send back my old one. Got it in less than 2 days. Sorry for not being more specific. Also fast charging is still going 100% of the time on the new cable.
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I actually called ATT customer service/warranty center. He told me he'd send me a new charger and cable and I needed to send back my old one. Got it in less than 2 days. Sorry for not being more specific. Also fast charging is still going 100% of the time on the new cable.
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Thanks. Looks like I'll have to give my provider a call. I can verify that once I switched the cable I have no issues fast charging. I'm not having a good experience with Samsung so far. When you charge almost $1,000 for a product I expect it to be free of defects in every day use. Meanwhile my cable is messed up after only 3 weeks of owning it and the phone has signal problems that require me to cycle airplane mode to get data working. Never had a problem with my Nexus phones or iPhones. Really poor qualify control.
I recently purchased a Note 8 but I notice that the phone only charge up to 80%.
When the battery is charged up to 80%, the red/orange led notification indicating the charging process turned off. I had to unplug and replug the charger multiple times but the battery only jumped up to 83~85%. Is this normal or is the battery defective?
Everytime, I unplugged and replugged the charger. The charging symbol & led notification showed up for about 30~35 sec and then it stopped charging.
Does anyone have the same problem like this?
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I recently purchased a Note 8 but I notice that the phone only charge up to 80%.
When the battery is charged up to 80%, the red/orange led notification indicating the charging process turned off. I had to unplug and replug the charger multiple times but the battery only jumped up to 83~85%. Is this normal or is the battery defective?
Everytime, I unplugged and replugged the charger. The charging symbol & led notification showed up for about 30~35 sec and then it stopped charging.
Does anyone have the same problem like this?
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Not normal. What version do you have and where are you? Is it an international version? I live in the U.S. and have a carrier Tmobile version. Battery charges to 100% no issues
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amyf27 said:
Not normal. What version do you have and where are you? Is it an international version? I live in the U.S. and have a carrier Tmobile version. Battery charges to 100% no issues
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I have the factory unlocked version & I live in the U.S.
Model: SMN950U1ZKAX.
I read some threads at other forums, some people are having a similar issue with S8 and S8+. I think I need to return to this phone to Samsung
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I have the factory unlocked version & I live in the U.S.
Model: SMN950U1ZKAX.
I read some threads at other forums, some people are having a similar issue with S8 and S8+. I think I need to return to this phone to Samsung
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Did you root it with samfail? If so that's why.
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I have the factory unlocked version & I live in the U.S.
Model: SMN950U1ZKAX.
I read some threads at other forums, some people are having a similar issue with S8 and S8+. I think I need to return to this phone to Samsung
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Most definitely should be warranty covered
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Did you root it with samfail? If so that's why.
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I don't know if it is rooted or not. I just bought it from Samsung, plugged the sim, and use it. Now it' has the problem
Definitely not normal. Contact Samsung for warranty.
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I don't know if it is rooted or not. I just bought it from Samsung, plugged the sim, and use it. Now it' has the problem
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Check the bootloader screen. Usually this restriction is placed when the phone has been rooted. Maybe your phone was a customer exchange, which if that were the case I would be very pissed off.
Either way, if you haven't interfered with it in any way then it warrants a replacement.
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Have you tried re-calibrating the battery?
Maybe try draining the battery till it dies, then turn on phone until it dies again.
Finally charge it to full whilst switched off (i.e. notification light turns green)
This used to happen to me sometimes with an extended battery on the Note 4, where the fix was to remove the battery and replace it (obviously not possible here)
Sounds rooted to me. That's the only thing I have seen here at XDA that causes 80% battery . I would send it back right away, don't even try to screw with it. Samsung sent you somebody else's problem.
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Does it only charge to 80% with wireless charging also ?
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Does it only charge to 80% with wireless charging also ?
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I don't have the wireless charger. The charger I used was the fast charger in the phone box. I also switched to a different fast charger but the problem was still the same
did you check for software updates?
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Check the bootloader screen. Usually this restriction is placed when the phone has been rooted. Maybe your phone was a customer exchange, which if that were the case I would be very pissed off.
Either way, if you haven't interfered with it in any way then it warrants a replacement.
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Why would it be rooted if he bought it from Samsung?
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I don't have the wireless charger. The charger I used was the fast charger in the phone box. I also switched to a different fast charger but the problem was still the same
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Factory reset, if problem persists return phone.
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Why would it be rooted if he bought it from Samsung?
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Read my reply again! I said maybe he was sent a customer exchange. It happened to me once (not direct from Samsung but from a very well known and normally reputable online store.
I sent my phone back to Samsung service center to fix the charging problem. They replaced some components on the mainboard that cause this problem. However, when I received the phone, I performed some tests to check if the problem still persists.
After I received the phone back, my phone was able to charge itself up to 96-97% and then it stopped charging. I had to unplug and replug the wired charger to get my phone up to 100%. So I don't know this is because of the software/firmware from phone or not !!
Then, I used the phone for a couple days and when the phone was about at 25% battery, the battery drained so fast. In about 10-15 min after 25%, the phone turned off.
I let the phone off and charged the phone again, but again, the phone could not be fully charged. It stopped at 96% again!!! Does anyone have the same problem?
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I sent my phone back to Samsung service center to fix the charging problem. They replaced some components on the mainboard that cause this problem. However, when I received the phone, I performed some tests to check if the problem still persists.
After I received the phone back, my phone was able to charge itself up to 96-97% and then it stopped charging. I had to unplug and replug the wired charger to get my phone up to 100%. So I don't know this is because of the software/firmware from phone or not !!
Then, I used the phone for a couple days and when the phone was about at 25% battery, the battery drained so fast. In about 10-15 min after 25%, the phone turned off.
I let the phone off and charged the phone again, but again, the phone could not be fully charged. It stopped at 96% again!!! Does anyone have the same problem?
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I have the same problem.
some of this is caused by samsung's rightful fear that their batteries will explode. there are many complaints online about how slowly the note 8 charges. mine does some weird stuff while charging sometimes, and i am chocking it up to restrictions sammy has put in place to prevent another disaster. sometimes mine will only charge to like 87%, but if i unplug/plug in again it will finish charging. i think it also tries to charge around your charging/usage patterns as well. i suspect there is a way to turn off this feature.
I am getting the same issue. I have had my phone for for over a year now with no issues. And just a couple weeks ago I started having these issues. And no, I have not Rooted my phone, for all the people who suggested rooted.
Was there ever a fix for this?