Yes, I know it's a cell phone board, but I'm sure there are SOME firearm enthusiasts here!
Anyway, I own a Springfield Armory XD 45 Compact (hence my user name) and it's fairly accurate. It's not a ball gun, but it sure holds it's own! It was designed for a body-sized target 10 feet away, not a bullseye 50 feet away, but I still manage to shoot about 260/300 with it, which is pretty good for a tactical combat handgun.
Tonight, however, I got to try the XD Tactical in .45 Auto (the 5 inch barrel. Compact is 3", which is mine, and the service model, also called full size, is 4")
Lemme tell you, folks: I put 3 targets out at 50' and fired 30 shots, and for the first time in my life, I actually shot 299 (damn stray bullet) with a TACTICAL handgun!! Talk about amazing. The XD lineup is probably the best damn polymer framed handgun I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. If anyone here is thinking about buying one, consider this an endorsement!
Oh well, just wanted to brag!!!! LOL
:::staring into the darkness:::
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyep. Coulda covered my group with a half dollar. Spectacular.
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C'mon guys, this is one of those rare moments when a man HAS to brag!!!! LOL
Curious to hear some stories from those of you that have gotten your gear wet. I've done dishes (just splashes) and been in the rain with no problem.
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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dv8nathan said:
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Sincerely, With respect I do NOT suggest you make that a habit and other posters try to replicate that. The IP is rated at a mere 55. I suggest you are a very lucky person, in fact very lucky indeed. From reading this forum it is clear from many posts that even moisture caused by sweat has caused some owners problems in misting up the camera lens. Several members who use the Gear in a Gym have actually made their own under strap to prevent moisture touching the back of the Gear.
No confrontation on my part I just want to point out that what you did was maybe more to do with luck than the design capabilities of this watch?
Caution.
Regards
A little rain going into my car thats it!
Absolutely. It was a singular event that actually freaked me out. I have no intentions of duplicating that mistake nor advise anyone to do that just because i was fortunate. I love my gear and am excited to partucipate in all the new developements happening here.
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im a truck driver, im always out in the weather. i have put this watch through so much stress, i even banged it into a trailer!
theres still not a scratch on it and my watch is white, and its not even dirty(yet). very durable watch. i even wash my hands alot and gotten water
into the speaker on the strap. everything still works perfectly. :good:
Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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I will say 'Amen' to that.
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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If you read this forum and other forums many people have not been as lucky as you. The Gear should certainly have been produced and designed with a higher IP rating. Sony has been doing this for some time. It is truly the Achilles tendon of the gear.
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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I have read the comments and apart from some misting on the camera lens water is not a problem, if I get very hot and sweaty mine mists up but it clears very quickly much like my car windscreen and I would not like to lose the camera on the gear or my car windscreen
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Submerged in Saltwater Fish Tank
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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For some actual visual of what the watch is rated for, this is the water part of an IP55 rating at 23 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-J1QnQIhiA
And here is an IP55 rated radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDIB2yGuSY
Safe to say short of swimming with it, it should be fine.
How wet have you gotten your gear?
This sounds dirty... really wet! hahaha j/k sowwy.
Last night was the first time my watch got wet. I sweat heaps (and rather easily). Was at arcade and talked into a bit of impromptu dance dance revolution. Danced up a storm and sweated like a waterfall. No sign of moisture inside anywhere. If it continues that way, waterproofing is no longer a worry for me
Sucks that we have to worry about a watch like that...or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
Wore it in the rain to test her out. Even used it while raining (not well, but I was kinda able to swipe back and forth). She still works like a champ with absolutely no problems. Worst case scenario I'll just buy another if this one takes a dive and gut it for parts to tinker with.
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You know, ive seen comments on the moisture in the camera and ive never gotten it even after my accidental shower incident and frequent handwashings.
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Check out this video on Youtube (add to the end of youtube.com) /watch?v=3o0MUGyU2Q4
(I don't have many posts, won't let me post URLs.
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
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Shall we talk facts rather than opinion. See below.
"The International Organization for Standardization issued a standard for water resistant watches which also prohibits the term waterproof to be used with watches, which many countries have adopted. The international standard ISO 2281 Horology – Water-resistant watches defines the water resistance of watches. This standard was introduced in 1990 and only designed for watches intended for ordinary daily use and are resistant to water during exercises such as swimming for a short period. They may be used under conditions where water pressure and temperature vary. However, whether they bear an additional indication of overpressure or not, they are not intended for submarine diving.
The ISO 2281 standard specifies a detailed testing procedure for each mark that defines not only pressures but also test duration, water temperature, and other parameters. Besides this ISO 2859-2 Sampling plans indexed by limiting quality (LQ) for isolated lot inspection and ISO 2859-3 Sampling procedures for inspection by attributes – Part 3: Skip-lot sampling procedures concerning procedures regarding lot sampling testing come into play, since not every single watch has to be tested for ISO 2281 approval.
ISO 2281 water resistance testing of a watch consists of:
Resistance when immersed in water at a depth of 10 cm. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water for 1 hour.
Resistance of operative parts. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water with a force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any) for 10 minutes.
Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature between 18 °C and 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
Resistance to different temperatures. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water at the following temperatures for 5 minutes each, 40 °C, 20 °C and 40 °C again, with the transition between temperatures not to exceed 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to water overpressure. Immersion of the watch in a suitable pressure vessel and subjecting it within 1 minute to the rated pressure for 10 minutes, or to 2 bar in case where no additional indication is given. Then the overpressure is reduced to the ambient pressure within 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to air overpressure. Exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
No magnetic or shock resistance properties are required.
No negative pressure test is required.
No strap attachment test is required.
No corrosion test is required.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 2281 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 2281 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2.
In practice, the survivability of the watch will depend not only on the water depth, but also on the age of the sealing material, past damage, temperature, and additional mechanical stresses."
Further t this please also note the following;
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.
Manufacturers water resistance classifications are interpretations and are not part of any ISO standard definition."
As you can read for yourself this is not me on some sort of quest to prove any point whatsoever, I don't need to its written for you above.
My aim is to try to prevent people from damaging their watch. Nothing more and nothing less.
From the above quotes you can clearly see that our galaxy gear is not even water resistant by definition and needs care when coming into any contact with water.
Personally speaking, I find this a total pain in the neck and a very large blunder on Samsung's part. This is a wrist watch and should at least be water resistant too 30m or put this way splash proof. Yes, your other daily watch that has written on the back " Water resistant to 30m does NOT mean that the watch can be submerged to a depth of 30m, you cant even shower or bath in it!.
This is one of the biggest complaints with the watch trade and one that causes numerous problems to all watch retailers and horologists. The 'standard' is absurd. See the above codification for yourself.
The other point that needs to be understood is just because one may shower in the Gear, Sauna in the Gear etc and the watch still functions is certainly NOT an indication that no damage was done, the opposite may apply, its often just a question of time and how long the water inside the Gear will take to cause a possible problem.
Those unfortunate owners who have the lens mist up due to water ingress, How many times do you think one can place the watch in rice and dry it out before corrosion starts to make some affect? Sure the watch may work today, for a week maybe even six months but as yet we simply don't have the living experience of what's to come as the device is so new.
Only now are those who abused the Sony Xperia Z mobile phones starting to find their mobiles are not at all 'water proof' and cannot be taken white water rapids, diving, boiled in soup or cooked in chocolate (I jest not go see the youtube clips) etc. .
I'm not talking about cheap units which have ridiculously expensive filters. I'm looking for a reasonably priced air purifier which does the job without having to replace it every now and then. I have a lot of equipment packed into my small apartment room and most of it catches a thick layer of dust within couple of days after I vacuum my room. It’s such a hassle to vacuum the room every other day. Yet, the dust still continues to build up.
I've been reading reviews of air purifiers online and my requirements are as follows:
- Reasonably priced (under $300)
- Inexpensive filters or filter replacement intervals of more than 8-10 months
- HEPA type not the Ionic ones
- Less Noisy the better
- Not something mammoth sized . It would blend in with the room and not stick out like a sore thumb .
I’m looking for general recommendations before I make a purchase.
Good Air purifiers are a rip off
Dude air purifiers are such an overpriced rip off. Don’t go by those online reviews .Since my brother and I are smokers we didn’t want our family to be victims of secondhand smoke and spent $900 on this gigantic IQ air purifier which we saw in the extreme makeover show. This did nothing but make a lot of noise standing in one corner of the room .After just 5 months of use the filer started emitting a bad odor. To top it the customer service was really bad. When we finally got in touch with customer service they asked us to replace the filters. That’s when we decided we’ve had enough .
Air purifiers do nothing to prevent actual layers of dust in a room. Particularly a room with a ton of electronic equipment.
You should not believe in air purifiers
the only way to purify the air is with an ozone generator
Get a cat. Those help keep the dust to a minimum.
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Dude air purifiers are such an overpriced rip off. Don’t go by those online reviews .Since my brother and I are smokers we didn’t want our family to be victims of secondhand smoke and spent $900 on this gigantic IQ air purifier which we saw in the extreme makeover show. This did nothing but make a lot of noise standing in one corner of the room .After just 5 months of use the filer started emitting a bad odor. To top it the customer service was really bad. When we finally got in touch with customer service they asked us to replace the filters. That’s when we decided we’ve had enough .
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There is no way I would spend $900 on an air purifier . You get what you pay for adage doesn't make sense here . I know the $80 ones available on Walmart aren't good either . The static cling on all the equipment makes it so difficult for me to clean the place . I'm pretty sure there must be some reasonably priced ones available in the market .
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Air purifiers do nothing to prevent actual layers of dust in a room. Particularly a room with a ton of electronic equipment.
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I want to get rid of the the static dust accumulating on all the electronic equipment at home. From the stuff I found online I figured out few HEPA air purifiers actually do the job but they are quite expensive .
Not a techy kinda guy, but hate apple. Traded in my old s5 for an s7 . Flat phone not in Stock so opted for the edge. Just wanted a new phone.
1 month after purchase, At the coast and fall off the dock in the water with phone in my pocket. Back on the dock in 5 seconds. 3 days later phone is f#(kd up. Wont charge won't work. Soooo much for little Wayne and his champagne. Went 5 rounds w Verizon Mgr. No use. Water resistant . Not water proof. Fxck the Lil commercial. $400 more for new phone.. paid for a new s7 instead of insurance deductible for a rehab. Still hate apple. Samsung needs to give it up on the LilWayne commercial. It's a lie. LISTEN CLOSE. Samsung s7 IS NOT WATERPROOF!!!
Btdt
I bought Samsung Note 8 at the price of 56,000INR.
I added Samsung official back cover.
One fine day my phone fell from my bed side-table(barely 2 feet) and to my horror, not only its glass was damaged, its display got damaged as well.
If company boasts usage of Gorilla glass 5 and claims of doing multiple drop tests, how can the phone get damaged so easily by a mere 2 feet drop?
I filed a complaint to customer support saying that "I do not think the quality of product is at par with the price tag" and I am told that I will have to bear the expenses. The repair cost is approx 18,000 INR and they are giving me 25% discount which brings down the repair cost to approx 13,000 INR which is still too high.
Samsung makes a tall claim about drop tests. I have a youtube video link where they boast about drop tests, but couldn't share it here since the forum doesn't allow sharing outside links.
I consider this as "Misleading Advertisement" case.
I am thinking of suing the company on the grounds that:
1) They are misleading the customer with such ads
2) They are charging customer for a bad product. If the phone has Gorilla glass, the glass should have broken and protected the display from being damaged.
Do you guys think it is worthwhile taking the efforts to sue Samsung?
You dropped your phone, now it is broken. It will be very difficult that the drop in your case should not have damaged phone.
Samsung may have done a lot to make the phone more durable and more resistant to drops etc., but it doesn't mean the phone is drop proof.
Insurance can cover damage due to accidents, Samsung will not. Any coulance in reducing repair costs by Samsung is a bonus and all in my view you can expect.
Bottom line: don't sue Samsung.
You dropped the phone, then it is YOUR fault, just like that, the device was not designed or constructed to be undestructible or entirely shock proof, there are some heavy duty devices outhere,, but even those can suffer damage, the tests measure the capacity of the device to continue to operate after drops, shocks etc, that is, to be able to function, make and receive calls, the screen beeing legible and responsive to touch
If you have a history of dropping phones I'd strongly encourage you buy a Moto Z. The body is composed of metal, and the screen is shatter proof. I baby phones that are sandwiched between glass, whereas my Moto can handle drops unscathed.
The phone screen is glass.. The phone back is glass.. What makes u think dropping the phone won't break the glass?
No improvements? Ok let's compete it to another type of glass we all know.. Try a glass cup. Drop it and see.
Now do you see the improvements?
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amolguravxda said:
I bought Samsung Note 8 at the price of 56,000INR.
I added Samsung official back cover.
One fine day my phone fell from my bed side-table(barely 2 feet) and to my horror, not only its glass was damaged, its display got damaged as well.
If company boasts usage of Gorilla glass 5 and claims of doing multiple drop tests, how can the phone get damaged so easily by a mere 2 feet drop?
I filed a complaint to customer support saying that "I do not think the quality of product is at par with the price tag" and I am told that I will have to bear the expenses. The repair cost is approx 18,000 INR and they are giving me 25% discount which brings down the repair cost to approx 13,000 INR which is still too high.
Samsung makes a tall claim about drop tests. I have a youtube video link where they boast about drop tests, but couldn't share it here since the forum doesn't allow sharing outside links.
I consider this as "Misleading Advertisement" case.
I am thinking of suing the company on the grounds that:
1) They are misleading the customer with such ads
2) They are charging customer for a bad product. If the phone has Gorilla glass, the glass should have broken and protected the display from being damaged.
Do you guys think it is worthwhile taking the efforts to sue Samsung?
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What is up with everyone wanting to sue Samsung? Is this because of the recent trend in America where everyone sues each other for absolutely no reason, now everyone else also wants to sue someone to make a bit of money because they're unhappy? "I'm unhappy, now you have to pay me".
Basically any lawyer you tell your story to, will laugh at you. Sure, Gorilla Glass 5 is supposed to be stronger, but the glass is also a lot thinner than they used to be 8 years ago. Just because it's been drop-tested, doesn't mean it's indestructible. It's still glass and it will still break. Samsung didn't falsely advertise anything. They just said it's been drop-tested, not that it won't or can't break. Plus, also, you dropped it and it's your fault. Samsung isn't liable for your own negligence. Suing a company for "false advertising" is just saying "I broke it and now I'm unhappy and don't want to pay the repair, so instead I want to try and make money out of them for my unhappiness".
Bottom line. No, I don't think you can sue Samsung because of that. What do you think the courts of the world would look like if every person tried to sue a mobile manufacturer for false advertising, every time they dropped their phone? Why do you think you haven't seen or heard of any such cases happening before? Because it's just ludicrous.
Stop being salty because you were negligent and broke your expensive device, and either pay the repair or get a different device. At the end of the day, no one buys a Note device for their reputable sturdy and ruggedness and resistance to breaking.